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Fuel Efficient Car...

I'm getting a new car...I'm still driving the Ford ASSfire I bought in college I drive A LOT and wanted to know what the most fuel efficient AMERICAN-made car is...I am between that, or a truck (S-10). I wanted to get a Toyota Echo, but they are expensive for a car that's not cool...I need SICK fuel efficiency...I DRIVE like it's goin' out of style...I travel like I'm being followed by the Mob. I am the Taliban's main source of funding.: (
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Cool info, but foreign cars are kinda pricey (I'm a cheap ass). What about American cars...I haven't given up on the Hondas though...
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Cool info, but foreign cars are kinda pricey (I'm a cheap ass). What about American cars...I haven't given up on the Hondas though...
I think a Toyota Corolla is like $13000.00, the new ones look pretty good. You won't have to pay for maintenance, you know like on an American car. Consider soft costs, TCO.

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more like $15K Still, pretty close to the Focus.

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you get what you pay for. find a used civic.

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post #8 of 60 (permalink) Old 04-13-2004, 11:34 AM
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Will it pull a trailer?
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2004 S10's only come in the crew cab models with a 4.3 V6 motor. it won't be very fuel efficient.

oh, and the Aveo's seem like they were only made for Enterprise to rent as compacts. I don't think I know of anyone who would actually buy one of those.
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I bought a Civic EX last year. It gets great gas mileage. Not 5 mpg like the hybrids but great!!!!!. I'm not sure I trust the hybrids yet. New technology usually brings new and expensive problems. We only paid $16500 for the civic. It was originally supposed to be for my wife, but since I drive from Romeoville to Tinley constantly for school guess who drives the civic all the time.

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I hear that the new SRT-10 is supposed to be really fuel efficient.. :P

I basically agree to go with a Honda or Toyota. The price up front might be higher, but you'll almost definitly have a longer lasting car with less problems - and a more enjoyable ride.

I did read that you are looking for American made (so I'm not totally blind) and if you buy a Honda Civic EX it should be American made. I think mine was made in Ohio (don't remember for sure, but it was somewhere in the US). The only build and import the better models.. S2000, TSX, NSX ect. are all built in Japan and shipped over. The lower line cars are made here in the US, Mexico or maybe others.

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Will it pull a trailer?
Now your asking to much for fuel saving.. That just don`t compute fuel saving and pulling a trailer.
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I got a 2001 S-10, 4-banger. It gets roughly 20MPG. It's not bad, but I don't think it's what you'd consider fuel efficient
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man you must hammer on that thing.. I can get 17-18mpg with my Suburban if I keep it below 80 on the highway

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I was joking about the trailer! No truck for me...Trucks are good for people who live close to work and everything else. I get oil changes every 6 weeks it seems...

And the Aveo is OUT! I drive one of those compacts that were made for Enterprize to rent, and I thought it would save me money, but it didn't because Ford immediately stopped making parts for them...

The reason I was trying to buy American was to save money...Anything Toyota or Honda, slap an extra 5 grand on just cuz it's an import....and put the same inflation rate on parts...I was trying to go good 'ol GM for my cheap ass.
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I got a 2001 S-10, 4-banger. It gets roughly 20MPG. It's not bad, but I don't think it's what you'd consider fuel efficient
Damn, I got a 1999 Toyota Tacoma TRD extended cab w/ 3.4L V6 and I get 20 mpg. That sounds pretty bad dude, unless you beat the hell out of it.

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I don't think I necessarily beat the hell out of it but I do 99.9% driving City, not highway...
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That city driving sure won't help economy,but it still sounds high, maybe they put too small of a motor in it and it's working harder to move you around. Who knows?

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by 6nickyfan9
[B]Damn, I got a 1999 Toyota Tacoma TRD extended cab w/ 3.4L V6 and I get 20 mpg. That sounds pretty

remember that the s-10 nor its motor has been updated in years. When that thing came out 20mpg was actually good.

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That city driving sure won't help economy,but it still sounds high, maybe they put too small of a motor in it and it's working harder to move you around. Who knows?
I actually was gonna say something about that, but thought that would sound pretty dumb. It does seem to be a cow though lol. On the S-10 forum, around 20-22MPG seems to be a norm for the 4-cylinders...
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Yeah "Crazy", your telling me. I just found out that as of 1999 they still used a distributor on their 4.3L. And it wasn't even HEI! I was pretty shocked.

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I actually was gonna say something about that, but thought that would sound pretty dumb. It does seem to be a cow though lol. On the S-10 forum, around 20-22MPG seems to be a norm for the 4-cylinders...
It may be getting old and tired, not to mention city driving here is more extreme than most places. You could lose a couple mpg's from worn plugs, clogged filter, bad injectors, etc. Or it just could be everyone on the s-10 forum is posting what they saw on the sticker when they bought it. Trust me that is not always a true number.

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what about a mistubishi lancer - pretty good fuel economy (around 30 in town and 40 on the Hway) - plus you can get them used for less than 9 grand.
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It may be getting old and tired, not to mention city driving here is more extreme than most places. You could lose a couple mpg's from worn plugs, clogged filter, bad injectors, etc. Or it just could be everyone on the s-10 forum is posting what they saw on the sticker when they bought it. Trust me that is not always a true number.
trust me, I know about the "accuracy" of the sticker lol
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Getting back on the subject however, , what you wanna do is find a vehicle with a "ULEV"(ultra low emissions vehicle) rating. I think the minimum economy of those is like........aaahhh screw it just buy a Civic you'll be glad you did in the long run. You'll pay less for gas and less on upkeep. Plus little extra expendatures like Synthetic oil and Irridium plugs(the latter being rather pricey @ about $13.00 ea. trust me I know) will add to an already fuell efficient vehicle.

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Mileage hasn't been below 35mpg on my corolla (5 speed) got as high as 41 on the highway. Paid about 12.5 with tax and title.

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I'd go with what these guys are saying.

Try and find a 2-4 year old Civic/Corolla. The lots have got to be chock full of them with all the 0% financing. You'll save a couple thousand.

Visit the lot, find the one you want, get the price, wait until the end of the month, come in a couple grand shorter than that and see how you can haggle. Two hours before the end of the business month they are pretty desperate for a sale, and they have a lot more haggling room with a used car.

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My EX brand new I think was 16,2 sticker.. after going between dealers to get the best pricing, I ended up being done with everything for 16,2 or 16,3 and got 1.9% financing out the door. I did figured out my real life MPG at one time, but I can't remember what it was. I think it was only in the 27 range, but I do drive a bit fast (no, I don't think my civic is a race car).

Anyway, don't count out the Honda/Toyotas. If you buy a LX or base model Civic you can probably be out the door for MSRP or very near it, with taxes and plates - you just gotta bargain and go between dealers. Let them fight for the sale. Even on a cheap car, they all want to sell you somthing and will usually meet your requests. I imagine that Ford or Chevy will also do the same, but like I said.. don't fear the prices, it's not that bad!

Here... how about this. Make a list of cars you might possibly buy that are in your realistic purchase range, then forget about the actual pricing. All that matters is that you can afford all the cars on your list. Take that list and go test drive every car on the list. Find the one that you like to drive the best, or the one that you think is the best value after you've driven all the cars.

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This is awesome! I've really learned a lot...I think I'm gonna shoot for the Civic, but I'm going to go in with the list idea and see what I can get...Very cool guys!

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VW with the TDI in it. 40 mpg all day long.
Whatever you get will get slightly better mpg with a manual trans.

You support the Taliban?! I have that market cornered thank you. My ride gets 10mpg, and I average 33k per year. That's 3300 gallons of gas at $165/gal = $5445 per year. FACK!

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