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Chrysler 300 C Hemi

I will need to buy a bigger car then my GTI, however, I am not fan of SUVs. I was wondering if any of you Mopar guys know something more about 300 C Hemi.

This are the cars I am looking at:
Audi S4 Avant
Audi AllRoad
Chr 300C Hemi
Subaru WRX Impreza

Any Suggestions are welcome

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Off that list, I'd pick the S4 Avant no question. You might look at the Saab 9-2x Aero, also. Basically a reskinned WRX wagon with nicer interior. Subarus have GREAT reliability. If I could afford it, I'd still go with the S4 Avant, though. V-8 + AWD wagon = big fun!
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The Magnum looks better.....IMHO.
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WRX is not that much bigger if at all then your GTI. And arnt the S4 and A4 both based off of the Passat which is also not that much bigger then the GTI. 300C is huge inside, I am 6'2" and normally I dont fit in anything (knees hit the dash) but in the Dodge Magnum and the 300C I fit in both the back and front seet wiht no problems at all. Then again I just hate Audi and VW so take my input with a grain of salt.

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Re: Chrysler 300 C Hemi

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I will need to buy a bigger car then my GTI, however, I am not fan of SUVs. I was wondering if any of you Mopar guys know something more about 300 C Hemi.

This are the cars I am looking at:
Audi S4 Avant
Audi AllRoad
Chr 300C Hemi
Subaru WRX Impreza

Any Suggestions are welcome

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The S4 Avant and the Allroad seem like good hauling machines, the S4 being more powerful, though. Excellent all-season machines, can't beat the Quattro allwheeldrive . I read the Allroad suffers a bit from turbo lag.

I personally don't like the grille and the front end of the 300C.

The WRX is a pretty decent AWD machine as well, but not as roomy as the Audis. .. You might want to consider the WRX SportWagon instead, which is a blast to drive. Just make sure you get it stick shift

If you care about interior accomodations, the WRX would be the most spartan in terms of that, though.

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they are nice cars, expensive (considering dealers are getting over sticker, if you want the 'C' with the hemi) The Magnum is a little less money, it's a station wagon with plenty of room, very comfortable, and very fast.

If you don't need the hemi motor, the Chrysler 300 touring with leather and the 6 cyl, will probably save you a few thousand.

Nice cars inside thats for sure.

Of all the cars you are looking at, I would also through the Ford Crown Vic/Mercury Grand Marquis. v8 (mustang motor) RWD (same as the 300C) with 5K rebates, you can get a very well equipped model for a very fair price.

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I don't really know much about the 300C, but I have a dodge ram with the Hemi. It's a good engine, but doesn't live up to all the marketing hype (that thing got a hemi??). I imagine that close to 350 hp would move that car pretty good though. I think that in the 300C, the hemi now comes with a deactivation system that shuts down 4 cylinders when you're cruising at highway speed - along with a list of other timing retardation and torque control features that keep the power to a "safe" level so you don't hurt yourself, or the drivetrain. I hate computers....
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Isn't the Phaeton in the 80-100k class with the A8, 7 series, S class, LS430 ect? Not quite in the same money range as what he is looking for.

Out of those listed, none of which I have driven so my opinion means nothing, I'd be most interested in the S4 avant.
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A friend has an s4- awesome sedan!

That thing turns and stops better than any production car I have ever driven......

And who can complain about twin turbo's?
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WRX is not that much bigger if at all then your GTI. And arnt the S4 and A4 both based off of the Passat which is also not that much bigger then the GTI. 300C is huge inside, I am 6'2" and normally I dont fit in anything (knees hit the dash) but in the Dodge Magnum and the 300C I fit in both the back and front seet wiht no problems at all. Then again I just hate Audi and VW so take my input with a grain of salt.
When I said bigger, what I realy mean was something with 4/5 doors and automatic trans. I tried teaching my wife to drive stick and trust me when I say some people should not be allowed near a stick shift without a supervision...Enough said. I have a 98 Eclipse with 26K miles that I can't trade or sell, and it is paid for. However, my 2001 GTI has almost 60K miles and we will need a car with more doors for those baby seats if you know what I mean...

So far I realy like the S4 Avant and Allroad, however, Impreza is realy fast and reliable as well.

keep the suggestions coming....

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I recommend the any Audi with Quattro. I've owned the S4 and now own the Allroad. I found the S4 a little small for my 6'3" size, but the Allroad definitely has more room. I would wait till Spring for the new engines and redesigned body styles from Audi.

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I'd def. go with the S4. My sister has an A4 Quattro and I have to say it is a really fun car to drive. she hasn't many problems at all with it.
oh, and it's not based off a passat....it's based off a jetta.
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Dan have you driven the Phaeton? VERY NICE...
I just saw one of these on the x-pressway the other day.
Looked like a bmw 740. It had my interest, curious on cost?

probably to much for me.
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Considered the Forrester from Subaru? Similar engines, bit larger interior storage room. SUV room, car handling. Shorter (easier to get car seats into/out of). Still more room than Impreza.

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Dan, you might also want to take a look at the Passat W8. My buddy just picked up a new '03 with all the goodies for a great price. Fantastic ride with space and AWD.

Just a thought. From what I can see there isn't a bad pick in your lineup. Good luck!

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Dan, you might also want to take a look at the Passat W8. My buddy just picked up a new '03 with all the goodies for a great price. Fantastic ride with space and AWD.

Just a thought. From what I can see there isn't a bad pick in your lineup. Good luck!
Only problem is the W8 is a $40k car. And 3800lbs heavy...
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That's why he bought a new '03. I think he walked out around $35K and it's the same car as the '04/'05. Got the full sport-luxury package etc. I like it better than the entry level A6's.

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W8 for 35K that is a great deal on a new car, It looks like everyone wants me to stay with the VW/Audi brand. I have yet to drive W8 but I will definetely give it a try.

In regards to American cars I have not found one other then 300C that cought my attention, if anyone has a good suggestion let me know. Please no Fords, it is a principle...

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Since Chrysler's parent is hq'd in Germany doesn't that make it German?

Just bought a camry and it's plenty big inside for my family (plus i believe it was built in Kentucky)

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What about the new Legacy, same power as the WRX but it has more room and doesn't look so boy racer styling.

Dueces you making those same basterdized generalizations about Chrysler is like me saying that all VW's have a problem with coil packs and there are only 40% of VW that are never in the shop.

RSV, first thing are you in that range of spending $35-40K? I would say go for the Infiniti G35X, sweeting styling, 350Z motor, 4 doors, and all wheel drive. Not to mention Jap so it will never break.

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I'd stay away from VW or Subaru. The quality on both isn't up to the standard that GM, Nissan, Toyota and Honda are at.

I would conssider looking at somethign like the Camry Solara or a regular Camry. Very large interiors, with a V6 it's a very quick car, and for the same price as the others, you can get it fully loaded with leather and Navigation systems.

Also take look at Lexus or soem of the new Acuras.

I recommend jsut going ot a dealer and test drivign and sitting in at least a dozen different cars and decide what fits you best...just like buyign a motorcycle.

I hate to say it, but if you really care about your family...the safest vehicles on the road are minivans, followed by "full size" cars like a Avalon, Volvo, Lexus LS, and then trucks/SUV's.

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I'm not a huge audi fan, I prefer rwd.

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BMW 330i ZHP - performance package
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i'd either get the Dodge or ZHP. The dodge can haul lots of stuff and tow like 3500#'s, but the bmw would be so much more fun to drive (but smaller)

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Re: Chrysler 300 C Hemi

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This are the cars I am looking at:
Audi S4 Avant
Audi AllRoad
Chr 300C Hemi
Subaru WRX Impreza

Any Suggestions are welcome

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You'll probably be better off with the Allroad over the S4 since it's a little bigger. The S4 shares its platform with the Passat (NOT the Jetta/Golf as someone else mentioned)... so while it's still bigger than the GTI, it's still kinda small. The Allroad is based off the A6 chassis - which is larger.

The S4 should outperform the Allroad though - the S4 has a 340hp V8 now... the Allroad still has the old 250hp TT V6.

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