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i just changed my oil on my r1 last week or so. i bought the filter from a shop on oakton in des plaines for $12 and i thought that was a steal considering other yamaha dealerships sell for $15. i was just recently at murray's (auto store) and noticed a small section for motorcycles. they sold oil and filters!!! the same filter, FRAM, that i bought at a bike shop, was only $6.99!!! i also heard that they sell this at wal-mart or others like it for maybe less.
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I buy Fram filters by the case. Nice since both my YZF adn F2 use the same filter.
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where is a murrays? im due for one
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where is a murrays? im due for one
There's one on Barrington between Schaumburg and Irving Park Rd.

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i'm sure they sell the filters elsewhere, not only murray's. also, the one i went to did not have many in stock, but i'm sure they can order them just like auto parts.
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LOL! That was Albrecht's Fast Track...I can't believe those guys are still in the bike business!

BTW, not sure of the wiseness of trying to save a few dollars on oil filters. My friend had a GSXR Fram filter loosen up at high RPM/speed in front of me many years ago. Oiled up his rear tire, oiled up my faceshield, huge smoke screen from oil hitting the header (I thought he had blown his motor). Turned out a batch had the incorrect threads machined on them. But, he had saved $5 from OEM!
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fram filters are not my first choice.... do that have other brands?

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Murrays also has Mobil One Synthetic for bikes as well (same section as the motorcycle oil filters) . I forget the exact model, MX-4t or something like that. Decent price though and convienent.
I think they also carry the synthetic Amsoil as well.

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I've only heard bad things about Frams - but don't want to get off subject.

AutoZone carries STP motorcycle filters for like $4.99 I think (at least for my bike). Many of the Suzukis take the same model filter I'm pretty sure.

They also have Valvoline oil intended for 4 stroke motorcycle engines... it's like $2.99 or $3.99 a quart. Much cheaper than the stealer. It isn't my intention to start an oil thread either...
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Re: save money on oil change

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i just changed my oil on my r1 last week or so. i bought the filter from a shop on oakton in des plaines for $12 and i thought that was a steal considering other yamaha dealerships sell for $15. i was just recently at murray's (auto store) and noticed a small section for motorcycles. they sold oil and filters!!! the same filter, FRAM, that i bought at a bike shop, was only $6.99!!! i also heard that they sell this at wal-mart or others like it for maybe less.
i go to Murrays a lot, they do have good deals

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An oil filter loosening up is most likely caused by who ever installed it and not the filter itself. In the 12 yrs I've used Fram, I NEVER had a filter loosen or anything else happen. And if you are really worried about one loosening, put a hose clamp around it and safety wire it.

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+1 on what rob said.


or you would have known the threads were incorrect when installing the filter.
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I'd stay away from the STP filters. Those are even more cheaply made than the Frams. The STP filters even have 2 fewer holes in them.

I just suck it up and buy OEM. I think I paid $7 each from my local Kawi dealer last time.
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An oil filter loosening up is most likely caused by who ever installed it and not the filter itself. In the 12 yrs I've used Fram, I NEVER had a filter loosen or anything else happen. And if you are really worried about one loosening, put a hose clamp around it and safety wire it.
i have seen alot of fram filters internally come apart.. block closed.. and lockup an engine.. and not cheap little bike engines.. i'm talking $20,000 desiel engines.

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maybe they should start using duralube
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LOL! That was Albrecht's Fast Track...I can't believe those guys are still in the bike business!

i knew the name of the place... i just didn't want to disclose them.
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i have seen alot of fram filters internally come apart.. block closed.. and lockup an engine.. and not cheap little bike engines.. i'm talking $20,000 desiel engines.

The only time I ever seen a fram filter blocked (or any other filter for that matter) was from some nitwit who just drained the oil and didnt replace the filter for 30,000 miles.



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An oil filter loosening up is most likely caused by who ever installed it and not the filter itself. In the 12 yrs I've used Fram, I NEVER had a filter loosen or anything else happen. And if you are really worried about one loosening, put a hose clamp around it and safety wire it.
You're correct, it's most likely to happen for that reason NOW, but at the time there were absolutely, positively, a batch of Phillipine made FRAM filters with incorrect thread pitch, resulting in loosening/oil loss. I don't have the research in front of me, but Road Racing World magazine covered the topic at the time. There was even a road racer at Willow Springs who crashed his bike as a direct cause of his defective Fram filter loosening, was injured extemely seriously, and sued the manufacturer.

BTW, my friend who had this happen to him is a 46 year old master ASE cert mechanic with extensive automotive road race crew chief experience. That filter WAS torqued down- the filter was defective, as were the others.
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LOL...more FRAM bashing I love it! Keeps the price low on my favorite oil filter Yep, I have used FRAM OIL filters on every vehicle I have ever owned (except the Jag maintenance is free for the first 3 years) have never had one problem ever. And the stories of "bad FRAM" filters always come from "a friend told me that his friend" My personal experience, is I have not had any problems with FRAM filters, so if it ain't broke I'm not fixing it! You want to pay double for a second branded filter, made by the lowest bidder, you go right ahead, I'll spend the money I save on tires Shall we start discussing "Motorcyle oils" ? I heard Honda, Yahama, Suzuki and Kawaski make the best motorcyle oil, it says so right on the bottle

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There are a couple sites that cut filters apart and describe the internals.

Doing a search here's one that came up:

http://www.frankhunt.com/FRANK/corve...html#fram-ph8a
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