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International Truck and Engine Corp. is producing what it calls the world's biggest production pickup, a 14,500-pound monster capable of towing 20 tons. The 5- passenger 5-passenger CXT is nine feet tall, eight feet wide, 21 1/2 feet long and gets about seven miles on a gallon of diesel. The truck is manfactured in Garland, Texas. (AP Photo/Ketchum Communications, File)


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I've seen two of them around here just this summer. I was thinking about getting one till you mentioned it's awsome mileage Sure would be a nice family car though

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I saw a truck very similar to that last summer in Omaha in front of a casino/hotel pulling a big cattle trailer. It was friggin huge and everyone was amazed when two cute little cowgirls stepped out.

It was a GMC as I recall

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Overall not really a new vehicle. Same as a large cargo van chassis, but with truck-like sheetmetal and a better paint job.

I think 16,000 lbs is the limit for needing a CDL. I hope so...we REALLY don't need soccer moms trying to drive these monsters around without a little extra training.

It would make a pretty cool tow vehicle.... for a 30', 20,000 lb trailer.
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Your own personal semi-truck.

Only problem I see is that it's a dualy, so it will be harder for the rappers to put spinner 26's on it than it is with most other trucks.
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Damn that is awesome. I'd buy it in a minute.




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Re: Check out this new truck...

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The 5- passenger 5-passenger CXT is nine feet tall, eight feet wide, 21 1/2 feet long and gets about seven miles on a gallon of diesel.
thats sweet.. i would rock it.. of course.. my truck is a 6-passenger and is 23 foot long!!!

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That's not a pickup, thats a big rig wrecker with a bed!
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there is actually one in my neighborhood, bright yellow, it's the weirdest looking thing rolling down the street. everyone stops and stairs like WTF!

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try Nissan Titan it can tow almost 10,000 pounds!!!!!!
and for less gas. It will out run the famous Hemmmy too.I know I raced it.
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try Nissan Titan it can tow almost 10,000 pounds!!!!!!
and for less gas. It will out run the famous Hemmmy too.I know I raced it.
no offense.. but have you tried it? i love to see one tow 10,000 pounds.. and let alone STOP 10,000lbs.

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Damn that is awesome. I'd buy it in a minute.
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hahahaha, nice try. Everyone knows men age like wine and women age like milk. It's a scientific fact!!
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I worked at a Navistar dealer for about 7 years. Here's some of the stuff I know about this vehicle.

It's based on the 4300 series truck chassis. Electrical time bomb. They have a multiplexed electrical system. This means that they send more than one signal through each wire. If you want to add a simple light, or any electrical accessory for that matter, it's off to the dealer so they can reprogram the VPM (vehicle personality module). add the switch, etc.

Not really a new idea, I remember lots of people doing this type of conversion to a cab and chassis. Ususally the set up was for a goose neck type trailer, horse trailers and the such. We did have a few customers that had pick up type beds in them though.

These trucks are really easy to drive though. I'd much rather see the soccer moms drive this thing than the excurions and other titanical suv's. Those types of trucks are typically built on a pickup truck chassis, while this thing is built on a chassis that can be fitted all the way up to like 50,000 lbs. That means tires and suspension that can handle the weight, with really good brakes. If you stomp on the brakes in one of these things- it'll plant ya on the windshield like a bug.
Doesn't Chevy have something like this also. I though I read it in Truck Trend once

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hahahaha, nice try. Everyone knows men age like wine and women age like milk. It's a scientific fact!!
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Your own personal semi-truck.

Only problem I see is that it's a dualy, so it will be harder for the rappers to put spinner 26's on it than it is with most other trucks.

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QUOTE]Originally posted by MoparBoyy
no offense.. but have you tried it? i love to see one tow 10,000 pounds.. and let alone STOP 10,000lbs. [/QUOTE]

It can tow 9500 with 3:36:1 axle and tow package. To stop the trailer it would have brakes also. There are 5-wheel campers that way a lot more than 10,000 pounds and stop with no problem.

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Originally posted by spetsnaz
try Nissan Titan it can tow almost 10,000 pounds!!!!!!
and for less gas. It will out run the famous Hemmmy too.I know I raced it.
[IMG]http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=nissan+titan/v=2/SID=w/l=IVS/*-http://199.239.248.45/images/full/2003/s2003041601/ns2004titancrewcab6402.jpg[/IMG]
Doesn't mean the Titan is faster. 0-60 the Dodge with the Hemi is 6.8 and the Titan is 7.2, not much in difference.

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I worked at a Navistar dealer for about 7 years. Here's some of the stuff I know about this vehicle.

It's based on the 4300 series truck chassis. Electrical time bomb. They have a multiplexed electrical system. This means that they send more than one signal through each wire. If you want to add a simple light, or any electrical accessory for that matter, it's off to the dealer so they can reprogram the VPM (vehicle personality module). add the switch, etc.

Not really a new idea, I remember lots of people doing this type of conversion to a cab and chassis. Ususally the set up was for a goose neck type trailer, horse trailers and the such. We did have a few customers that had pick up type beds in them though.

These trucks are really easy to drive though. I'd much rather see the soccer moms drive this thing than the excurions and other titanical suv's. Those types of trucks are typically built on a pickup truck chassis, while this thing is built on a chassis that can be fitted all the way up to like 50,000 lbs. That means tires and suspension that can handle the weight, with really good brakes. If you stomp on the brakes in one of these things- it'll plant ya on the windshield like a bug.
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It can tow 9500 with 3:36:1 axle and tow package. To stop the trailer it would have brakes also. There are 5-wheel campers that way a lot more than 10,000 pounds and stop with no problem.
this is the problem with the world right here.. if you have a 5th wheel trailer you SHOULD NOT be using a 1/2ton truck.. i'm sorry.. i don't give 2 shits about what the "tow rating" is.. get under the truck and look for yourself why you shouln't tow with them..

when i see people and there little "toy" trucks towing a heavy load i make sure NOT to be in there way.. I have driven thousands of miles with a group of people.. and here is the breakdown.. Me in my 3/4 Ton, freind in is 1/2 Ton, and another freind in is mid-sized truck.. all pulling the SAME weight all within "tow ratings" and guess who for years now has never had ANY problems? me and only me.. going thru the mountains with a small 4000lbs behind you WITH TRAILER BRAKES.. which would you rather be in? a truck with a big set of brakes.. or the ones that are on a "light truck"

the common missconception about trailer brakes.. they are not ment to STOP the trailer.. only to help.. they will do only about 45-50% of the braking power needed.. since when you slam on the brakes.. the trailer is gonna dip forward, and all the weight is on the rear tires of the truck.. were is the braking power needed? THE TRUCK.. 3/4 ton and UP trucks are designed with completely differant braking systems than a 1/2 ton and down.. your gonna have a hard time with a 3/4 ton on slippery serfaces when its empty cause it has ALOT more rear braking power..

now, for most people here, you only need a little truck or even a car (i would never tow with a car) for your bikes so it really don't matter.. for me.. hauling a car across country.. i'm gonna go with something alittle bigger.

rant is now over.

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First, this is nowhere NEAR a NEW idea...seen them built YEARS ago, Freightliner in particular.

Second, as to CP's thinking.....CDL is required OVER 26,000 lbs..so anyone could drive one of these.

Third, I'm gonna disagree w/ Mopar on one issue......trailer brakes. My 24' 5th wheel trailer CAN, and WILL stop the tow vehicle w/ the brakes it has under it. It has hauled my 1 ton Crew cab to a stop all on it's own.......that's right, a 3k trailer STOPPING a 6k truck. Hell, I can lock up the brakes on that beastie w/ no problem. Granted all trailers aren't built equal, let's not throw around blanket statements like that Mopar.

Now, the brakes on THAT truck.....just like on my little flatbed (air brakes)..... WILL put you through the window if you hammer them and aren't hangin' on!

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Ah, looks perfect for those mid-day trips to the SOW mall. Any soccer mom who gets this will be the envy of all soccer moms.

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I saw a truck very similar to that last summer in Omaha in front of a casino/hotel pulling a big cattle trailer. It was friggin huge and everyone was amazed when two cute little cowgirls stepped out.

It was a GMC as I recall
yes, my boyfriend's dad sells those for GM. I just rode in one last weekend. outside of the truck, the seat was higher than my head.
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this is the problem with the world right here.. if you have a 5th wheel trailer you SHOULD NOT be using a 1/2ton truck.. i'm sorry.. i don't give 2 shits about what the "tow rating" is.. get under the truck and look for yourself why you shouln't tow with them..

when i see people and there little "toy" trucks towing a heavy load i make sure NOT to be in there way.. I have driven thousands of miles with a group of people.. and here is the breakdown.. Me in my 3/4 Ton, freind in is 1/2 Ton, and another freind in is mid-sized truck.. all pulling the SAME weight all within "tow ratings" and guess who for years now has never had ANY problems? me and only me.. going thru the mountains with a small 4000lbs behind you WITH TRAILER BRAKES.. which would you rather be in? a truck with a big set of brakes.. or the ones that are on a "light truck"

the common missconception about trailer brakes.. they are not ment to STOP the trailer.. only to help.. they will do only about 45-50% of the braking power needed.. since when you slam on the brakes.. the trailer is gonna dip forward, and all the weight is on the rear tires of the truck.. were is the braking power needed? THE TRUCK.. 3/4 ton and UP trucks are designed with completely differant braking systems than a 1/2 ton and down.. your gonna have a hard time with a 3/4 ton on slippery serfaces when its empty cause it has ALOT more rear braking power..

now, for most people here, you only need a little truck or even a car (i would never tow with a car) for your bikes so it really don't matter.. for me.. hauling a car across country.. i'm gonna go with something alittle bigger.

rant is now over.
The 9500 pound tow rating is NOT the fifth wheel tow rating. I don't even know what it is on the Titan. But just because it 9500 tow rating, it doesn't mean it will pull a 9500 trailer. They do make a fifth wheel camper light enough for small pick-ups. I saw a Dakota pulling one. It's not big at all, if I that person I just go with a regular travel trailer.

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