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post #1 of 43 (permalink) Old 09-26-2004, 09:09 PM Thread Starter
 
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Does anyone know if that the news coverage on the recent death of bikers and underground motorcycle clubs growing will be on the news today, or will it be on at 10 on monday?? I'd like to see what they have to say. Please send me a link if you have any articales or videos on this. Thanks
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That one I dont get, on the ryan the averave speed of every car is 85, of course you would never hear that on the news but thats the flow of traffic, and out of the blue he just rear ends a car. that seems strange.




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Not to mention for rear ending a car the front of that bike looks awfully intact including the fender and front fairing/windshield.

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Sounds like a little media sensationalism again since reporting motorcycle accidents seems tobe the fad these days since nothing else is going on. Why dont they go out and do some actual journalism instead of folowing the poloce scanner around like a bunch of buffs.




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they said on the radio this morning that the car saw the bike coming up fast and changed lanes to let him go around at the same time the bike was swerving around it. I could see that being the case, people seem to freak out when they see something coming up on them fast like that. I do agree with Ian though, there isn't much damage to the front of the bike.

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Not to mention for rear ending a car the front of that bike looks awfully intact including the fender and front fairing/windshield.
Anyone notice the front end damage on the car. Seems to me the motorcyclist may have been rear-ended.

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Not to mention for rear ending a car the front of that bike looks awfully intact including the fender and front fairing/windshield.
That's what I'm sayin'. Sounds real strange, especially when you look at the bike and read what they are saying happened.
Rear ending a car at 85mph wouldn't have your bike be missing?
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That one I dont get, on the ryan the averave speed of every car is 85, of course you would never hear that on the news but thats the flow of traffic, and out of the blue he just rear ends a car. that seems strange.

Even if the car was slower almost anyone can shed off 20 mph in a heartbeat. Can't tell me that car was going under 65.

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Anyone notice the front end damage on the car. Seems to me the motorcyclist may have been rear-ended.

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Well, it's *possible* the biker rear-ended the car. Keep in mind most squids are terrified of the front brake. 85mph, middle of a lane change and the car in front of him cuts him off. Rider stomps on the rear brake, locks up the rear tire, and the ass-end slides out and lowsides him. The sliding bike then impacts the car in the rear.

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Well, it's *possible* the biker rear-ended the car. Keep in mind most squids are terrified of the front brake. 85mph, middle of a lane change and the car in front of him cuts him off. Rider stomps on the rear brake, locks up the rear tire, and the ass-end slides out and lowsides him. The sliding bike then impacts the car in the rear.

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True, but my question is what caused the damage to the front end of the car. Or did that car hit the bike after the bike hit the car ahead.

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The front end damage of the car could have been caused be the car hitting a barrier after he got rear ended. We'd need to see pics of the rear of the car to be sure. But since we have pics of the front of the bike. I can say the media is twisting the story. Where's the front end damage. If he hit the car why are the headlights and front fender still intact.

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awful lot of rear end damage for a front end collision

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i haven't seen the front end damage on the car...but it could be possible it was from a previous accident. i've seen some pretty shitty looking cars on our roads out there!
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i haven't seen the front end damage on the car...but it could be possible it was from a previous accident. i've seen some pretty shitty looking cars on our roads out there!
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Interesting... The front fender, headlight, and front wheel look pretty much untouched... but it looks as if the rear tire is off the wheel... how can that happen if the bike hit the rear end of the car?

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The extent of "rear ending the car" could have just been enough of a bump to cause the wreck. It's not like the lead car was stopped - therefore the front damage to the bike wouldn't be that bad from the contact. I'm no math major, but if the bike was doing 85 and the car was doing, say 70...that's only a 15mph contact.

The remainder of the bike damage could have happened while it tumbled down the highway. Just a thought? Not sure why the front of the car is binned...driver just got spooked and put it to the wall or something? Dunno.

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I just saw that tonight on channel 5 they are doing an "in depth" investigation into the "Night Riders". Apparently one of the reporters rides?? Looks like it anyway. Tonight at ten. Should be interesting. Oh yeah.. and they said the car hit the wall after impact from the bike, hence the front end damage to the car.
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Tonights channel 5 news will be interesting to watch. I bet you think he's a biker because he had a protective jacket on?? I think he does, but he is a snitch. I saw he was a reporter for some news station in Florida and worked with cops to bring about laws in that state. Weird man
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Tonights channel 5 news will be interesting to watch.
might have been said already but what time is this report?
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might have been said already but what time is this report?
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It will be on Channel 5 at 10:00 pm
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I guess the sad part is that only the rider of the car "really" knows what happen. I have not heard the age of the rider or how long he has been riding but on another topic. I wonder if the state started putting some laws in place where maybe your first season of riding could only be during the day, I don't know I am just suggesting some ideas. I have friends who lived in the UK and they take riding very seriously. I believe that you are limited to certian CC's and everything when starting. A new rider can't just go buy a liter bike just you have the cash. My buddy tells me that he has never saw squids like we have over here. In the UK your licence is taken away pretty easily. I am not one for rules and restrictions but if many of these fatalities are people who are new to bikes and buying bikes that are "Too much" for them I would be in favor if it would save lives.
If this latest rash of deaths keeps up in IL it will soon be impossible to insure a sportbike. Maybe if we had some laws for people just starting to ride such as passing the MSF class, helmet laws and cc limitations for your first year this would ward off the type of people who just want to get a bike to be cool and weed out the squids. After you survive the first year and prove you are responsible then do as you wish. Just my 2 cents. Something has to be done to stop this death toll. Ideas??

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I guess the sad part is that only the rider of the car "really" knows what happen. I have not heard the age of the rider or how long he has been riding but on another topic. I wonder if the state started putting some laws in place where maybe your first season of riding could only be during the day, I don't know I am just suggesting some ideas. I have friends who lived in the UK and they take riding very seriously. I believe that you are limited to certian CC's and everything when starting. A new rider can't just go buy a liter bike just you have the cash. My buddy tells me that he has never saw squids like we have over here. In the UK your licence is taken away pretty easily. I am not one for rules and restrictions but if many of these fatalities are people who are new to bikes and buying bikes that are "Too much" for them I would be in favor if it would save lives.
If this latest rash of deaths keeps up in IL it will soon be impossible to insure a sportbike. Maybe if we had some laws for people just starting to ride such as passing the MSF class, helmet laws and cc limitations for your first year this would ward off the type of people who just want to get a bike to be cool and weed out the squids. After you survive the first year and prove you are responsible then do as you wish. Just my 2 cents. Something has to be done to stop this death toll. Ideas??

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I see bunch of problems with that one.

If they do set cc limits, the cops will either pull bikers more often, simply to check if they are ridin' withing the cc's, or they'll pull the bikers over the same as now, which means people will ride whatever they want, regardless of restrictions...

1000cc on a cruiser isn't the same as on a supersport. As a matter of fact, not even the same as on a 600cc supersport... not fair to restrict by cc's....

how about just having a harder test for the license... like following the person and seing how they do in traffic... that still though won't get rid of the massive amounts of people without m class on the roads...
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I see bunch of problems with that one.

If they do set cc limits, the cops will either pull bikers more often, simply to check if they are ridin' withing the cc's, or they'll pull the bikers over the same as now, which means people will ride whatever they want, regardless of restrictions...

1000cc on a cruiser isn't the same as on a supersport. As a matter of fact, not even the same as on a 600cc supersport... not fair to restrict by cc's....

how about just having a harder test for the license... like following the person and seing how they do in traffic... that still though won't get rid of the massive amounts of people without m class on the roads...
Very true, all cc's are not created equal. Good point. And I also agree that too many people don't have M licenses. My MSF class I took a few years ago had 3 people without one but who have been riding 5+ years. How about if you get caught without a M license while riding your cage licence is taken for a year! No questions asked, can't make it to work? Too bad, should have thought of that before getting a bike. Are dealers required to check if you have a M license before selling a bike? I don't remember. They should be though. The state also should so a check when you apply for plates.

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