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Projection tv vs standard

So I can pick up a 60 inch projection tv for like $200 which is about 5 or 6 years old and not in half bad shape, or get a nice new 36” HD tv for like $700 including a stand. Any opinions? I don’t know much about projection tv’s, but saw this one in person and yea, you’ve just got a few degrees for the best quality picture…after that it starts to look a bit more out there in terms of getting a ghosting image. Tough to pass up the deal, but then again the 36” picture would be much better and probably better for DVD’s and my Xbox.
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do you know how much real estate a 60in rear projection CRT takes up?

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I don't like projection cause if your not looking straight at the TV you cannot see the picture(from an angle). :jerkit
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What will you be using it for? How many people will be using it? When do you anticipate to get a replacement device, or be forced to because of a change in how you use it? What is wrong with your current TV that would prompt you to upgrade? Most important, if you buy one or another will you truly enjoy it a week, a month, a year from now? How bout opportunity cost, ie. if I spend this $$ on item X I can't spend it to buy item Y that I've also been thinking about?
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What will you be using it for? How many people will be using it? When do you anticipate to get a replacement device, or be forced to because of a change in how you use it? What is wrong with your current TV that would prompt you to upgrade? Most important, if you buy one or another will you truly enjoy it a week, a month, a year from now? How bout opportunity cost, ie. if I spend this $$ on item X I can't spend it to buy item Y that I've also been thinking about?
I'll be using it to watch tv, play games, and DVD's, it will also be the main one when company is over. Nothing is wrong with my current tv since I don't have one. I ask not because one model is slightly better than the other, but they are in 2 totally different ball parks. One has price and size while the other has picture quality and compactness. Don't the projection bulbs also burn out more frequently?
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Don't the projection bulbs also burn out more frequently?

CRT's dont burn out per se, but they dim over time to a certain extent and require alignment.

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CRT's dont burn out per se, but they dim over time to a certain extent and require alignment.
CRT can "burn-out" if the filament in the cathode burns open. They can also "burn-in"/burn the phosphor coating if brightness and focus are adjusted improperly.

CRT projectors typically need aligned after being moved for convergence and periodically for bias levels for accurate white levels and degaussed for purity.

A 60" rear-projection CRT TV is going to be both big and heavy. Unless it's relatively new, it may also not be capable of HD resolution.

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A 60" rear-projection CRT TV is going to be both big and heavy. Unless it's relatively new, it may also not be capable of HD resolution.
I'm stealing this quote from somebody, but what kind of a difference does it make if it's HD or not when I got 200 channels and not a darn thing on any one of them!

I suppose another criterion to consider here, is will you be moving soon? This one alone is tempting me to throw out my old computer and monitors and all and get a laptop

Try to imagine where you and your friends would be sitting if you had them over and where you'd position the tv's. What would the people see? I know it sounds cheesy, but it works! It's like an in-home-trial inside your head. I think you already know the answer
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Another thing to consider with the projection is if your watching it in the daytime and the room it's in gets a lot of light, you can't see jack. Trust me I know. On mine the angles aren't too bad, especially at night.
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so whats the difference between a projection and a hdtv projection? besides the resolution?

ive seen some hdtv projections that are really cheap for being a few years old.

I know that LCD and plasmas do kick ass in clearity.
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so whats the difference between a projection and a hdtv projection? besides the resolution?
Resolution and aspect ratio 16:9 as opposed to 4:3 are the main differences.

Beyond that, other considerations are similar: light output, black levels, optics quality, inputs and outputs, etc.

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some of the old school pioneers did have widescreen. Pioneer had a lot of options with their projectors and were very pricey.


I was thinking of getting a used big screen too. But its still a maybe.


Dave, you might know this. What does it take to align the cathodes? I seen it a lot that some of these projectors that are being sold need to be realigned or sometimes they need to be realigned when the projectors are moved.
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Dave, you might know this. What does it take to align the cathodes? I seen it a lot that some of these projectors that are being sold need to be realigned or sometimes they need to be realigned when the projectors are moved.
I haven't ever done the alignment on one so I'm not sure.

The CRTs are going to have the usual alignments for focus, linearity, bias, etc. as most CRT sets. The difference is that now you have 3 CRTs instead of one and instead of aligning 3 guns, you are aligning 3 tubes.

You might luck out and be fine, but moving it around and aligning in a different orientation that the original one could cause alignment problems.

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Yea I saw the tv in the daytime and with any medium amount of light in the room from the outside, you can't see much. So I'll stick with a bigger screen crt I think.
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