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Okay, so looking for wireless internet and just really starting to look. Any suggestion. I've seen for laptops and desktops, routers, cards. Help!

What is a good brand, success story and horror stories please.

Reasonable price range would be???
I'm not looking for top of the line here, but want to be in the living room not in a small office and be able to download music, videos and pics.

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From personal experience: Netgear=good, linksys=bad
Ya might as well go with G, the other ones will slowly fade out.
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I take it that you need it for a laptop? If so, go this a Linksys Wi-Fi router and card.


http://www.buy.com/prod/Linksys_Wire.../10360625.html

http://www.buy.com/prod/Linksys_WRT5.../10360624.html

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just in the little research I have done, Netgear is coming up the best and I have found a pretty good deal both router and card under $70.

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Now they only make the internet wireless, which ISP do you suggest?

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G is Linksys, right?

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uhm, ISP has nothing to do with your network setup... as long as it's DSL or cable you're good. G is just a protocol. It's for all, not just linksys.
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got it.

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are you looking for wireless internet access everywhere as in ISP or just around your house and you wana get DSL or Cable or Dial up? I personaly really like linksys. Use it in the office, at home, and everywhere else. If you are looking for wirless webaccess on the road I used to have an AT&T card, it was abour $400 for the card and $60 a month for unlimited access. But it was very slow. Slower then dialup. But now I see Cingular advertising fast speed wireless access.
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You really don't need the "G" speed ones unless you plan on transferring data between multiple machines that are using that connection.

The regular "B" speed is still faster than what your ISP can provide you. The only thing I can think of is that maybe the "G" has a better wireless range.

I've always had Linksys equipment and it's always worked pretty well for me. I have no problem recommending it to anyone else.

If you have a laptop this is the way to go - card and router packaged together: Click
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Okay, So I have a desktop and a laptop that will have internet access. Is the "B" still the way to go even with the desktop involved in a home environment?

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Nevermind, just read the specs and answered my own ??.

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Okay another question. Although "B" might be all that I need is it going to be phased out and "G" be the standard or min?

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Okay another question. Although "B" might be all that I need is it going to be phased out and "G" be the standard or min?
b is for boy, g is for girl.
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B maybe eventually phazed out, but all the routers/cards are backward compatible. I bought a Linksys B router, pc card, and laptop card and it all works great. I don't do home networking, so I didn't need the speed G provides. I just use the router to split my cable internet to all my computers.

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From personal experience: Netgear=good, linksys=bad
Ya might as well go with G, the other ones will slowly fade out.
No way linksys bad...That cisco system dude the best in nation. Linksys is what I'm using had my netgear take shit on me.

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B maybe eventually phazed out, but all the routers/cards are backward compatible. I bought a Linksys B router, pc card, and laptop card and it all works great. I don't do home networking, so I didn't need the speed G provides. I just use the router to split my cable internet to all my computers.

Okay, not so good with computers so lets see if I understand this in laymans terms.

I can buy a "B" router and laptop card and at some point if I need to upgrade to a faster speed I can get a "G" card and have no problems?

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no a G card won't work with a B router but a G router will work with a B card.
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So really to avoid spending more money then I need to I should just get everything "G" and be done with.

Does anyone recommed staying away from refurbished items?

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Most places only sell 801.11g equipment now. Ones that do habe b usually dont have much selection. Personally I'd recommend that you stay away from Linksys. I had 2 pcmia wireless cards die on me in 2 months and the router I had lost all wireless capability (works wired though). Now I have Dlink and maybe get dropped signals once in 2-3 months. I was getting dropped every 10 min on the Linksys crap.

Is this gonna be on a laptop or a desktop? Personally I prefer desktops to be wired up and not wireless.

Either way make sure teh SSID broadcast is disabled (after you set it all up) and the WEP keys are set, change the router admin namd and password and if you are comfortable with it, change your routers network IP address. And dont use channel 6 since thats the default on alot of routers
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So really to avoid spending more money then I need to I should just get everything "G" and be done with.

Does anyone recommed staying away from refurbished items?

You can go ahead and get the G items. They are selling for the same price the B ones were last year. So I suggest getting the G stuff.

I would stay away from refurbished stuff. Its been taken back for a reason, usually because it was broken. Get a new one and have a warranty.

Now, I don't know why everyone is knocking Linksys. I have had very little trouble with the equipment. *knock on wood*

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You can go ahead and get the G items. They are selling for the same price the B ones were last year. So I suggest getting the G stuff.

I would stay away from refurbished stuff. Its been taken back for a reason, usually because it was broken. Get a new one and have a warranty.

Now, I don't know why everyone is knocking Linksys. I have had very little trouble with the equipment. *knock on wood*
Ditto. Linksys is the way to. Just about everyone I know uses a Linksys and so do I.

I have never had ANY problems with a Linksys router and I have confgured a bunch of them. I work in IT and if I say Linksys is the way to go. Trust me, it's the way to go.

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no a G card won't work with a B router but a G router will work with a B card.

Funny my Dlink G wireless card works with my Dlink B router just fine.
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Now they only make the internet wireless, which ISP do you suggest?

www.dls.net

Geographic area may be a limitation depending on where you are looking to set up. I know there are a dozen or so of us up here in the LITH area that have it and it's stellar service/support.

Champ even has his phone service as part of the ISP. So, basically his phone service is free, long distance included. The only down side I have seen thus far is that Tivo doesn't like the phone line. Otherwise I haven't heard any complaints. I know they have been expanding their service area, but I haven't checked that in a while.

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Funny my Dlink G wireless card works with my Dlink B router just fine.
Some cards are B+G and some Access Points are B+G as well. You need to check the actual product to see if they are backwards compatible with older formats.

Right now you can get a Netgear 802.11g Wireless Router (Model: WGR614) for $70 - $20MIR from BestBuy; that's what I would buy if I were getting one today. Then pick up a Wireless-G PC card for the laptop. If you go wireless on the desktop, get a PCI card, skip the USB adapters. I'd go wired on the desktop if you have the choice.

The brand at that price range is honestly going to be personal preference. There are just as many people that like Netgear/hate Linksys as vice versa. Although Cisco owns Linksys now, don't think that means those products are any better/worse. They just slapped their names on the units. I prefer Netgear, but I haven't had any bad experiences with Linksys equipment.

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I have a Linksys b router and use my wifes Powerbook for wireless internet and it great. I can go all over the house, never have problems. Linksys was bought out by Cisco a few years back, I think they know a bit about network equipment

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Thanks everyone for all your help. This is what I have concluded: That either product, Linksys or Netgear, are comparable in quality and price. Either product should be B/G backwards compatable or just G as B seems to be on it's way out. The desktop should be wired and laptop should be wireless. Personal preference will be the deciding factor. And stay away from refurbished items!

Thanks again. I'll let you all know how it goes once I finally get it up and running!

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I've always had Linksys so I can't comment on the Netgear from personal experience. But - I've HEARD that Linksys products are much easier to setup and work with.
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wtf are u guys babblin' about?

IEEE 802.11g devices are backwards compatible with IEEE 802.11b.

Perhaps some of you are confusing this with the short lived shelf life of consumer products that was based on IEEE 802.11a.

Blueberry, "b" will be around for a while as a lowest common denominator for wifi devices. So if you want to save some money and can find some hardware go for it....otherwise go buy some "g" h/w.

As far as the Linksys or Netgear decision, I decided to go with Linksys. YMMV, but my past experience has been a rollercoaster with Netgear. They started out as a bunch of cool engineers that escaped from Synoptics, but then got bought back when Synoptics became Bay Networks. They got spun off again and I think they recently escaped the Nortel buyout. But their products are so buggy now. A lot of the development has been outsourced to India where they have a real QA prob. It seems like it's been easier for them to continually release new products rather than fixing bugs for existing fucked up h/w that is already out there.

I guess Linksys is doing something right for cisco systems to want to snap them up. If you didn't know, Linksys is now a subsidiary of cisco.

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So lets open the second chapter of this discussion: Does it matter what card/system I have if I want to use wifi at a local restaurant or library that might offer it?

Are they univeral as far actually allowing me access to the net?

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