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i am doing some research, PLEASE chim in IF you have ever crashed.

OK, i am re writing this to make it easier "give me a break i just gave up smoking" anyway.


IF you have crashed on the streets PLEASE share your experience.

i am building some information and you sharing will also help other riders.


there is no shame in crashing, no matter which way it happened, as long as you learn from it.

but anyway, please share if you have crashed and let me know also if you were speeding at the time or you were not speeding when you crashed is also too what i am really looking after.


thank you and thank you for helping others with your experience.




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No, never crashed doing speed limit.

No, never crashed exceeding speed limit.

Dropped the bike 2 times as I came to a stop (Time 1, avoiding hidden car pulling into traffic & Time 2, immediately after stopping after recovering from a turn I took too fast at the Gap (probably freaked myself out so bad I forgot to put my foot down)).

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crashed riding over my head in a group ride....lesson learned


oops...no never at the speed limit

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chibeemer "please share" are you saying you crashed but it was while speeding? aswell as driver error?

"correct"?





Brian, are you saying you were NOT speeding? and crashed due to rider error?


thank you guys for sharing and hopfully helping other riders.



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I was going 50mph in a 25 or 30mph commercial zone near a Ford dealership in Huntley.
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No, crashed while speeding once and stoppying another time.
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Yes. Downtown Naperville a young girl pulled into traffic from a blind alley and cut her turn short. My primary concern was not to end up in front of her and have her running me over. Very low speed, minimal damage to the bike, and a bruised foot. It took a year of fighting her insurance before an arbitration board decided she was entirely at fault. Of course, there were still plenty of people giving advice about what I did wrong.

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that means NO, you didnt crash while doing the speed limit.



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Yes. Downtown Naperville a young girl pulled into traffic from a blind alley and cut her turn short. My primary concern was not to end up in front of her and have her running me over. Very low speed, minimal damage to the bike, and a bruised foot. It took a year of fighting her insurance before an arbitration board decided she was entirely at fault. Of course, there were still plenty of people giving advice about what I did wrong.

not to brush it off, but this wasnt your fault, i am more concerned with other issues. what the rider of a bike was doing prior and at the time of a accident when it didnt involved another person OR IT DID, cause they were speeding.


other wise if you were doing the speed limit, and someone else caused you to crash, i dont need that for my research.



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i was doing about 18 mph so i was not speeding ....i went straight insted of leaning more went into the gravel and fell over
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i was doing about 18 mph so i was not speeding ....i went straight insted of leaning more went into the gravel and fell over

ahh sorry, but you were speeding "but honestly" it was rider error.

got it. thank you.



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cheyenne answer, you crashed, i was there.

please share so others and i myself and put this info together to try to build some facts i need.


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Yes

I was running in the range of the unposted speed limit (55) on some country roads, and even slowed down to near the recommened speed for corners, but I didn't slow down enough for a certain sharp/blind turn with some gravel. I was probably doing under 30mph when I ran of the road, but my lack of experience made me go for the brakes instead of just leaning the bike hard, and some target fixaction didn't help either.

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I wasn't doing the speed limit when I crashed that's why I didn't answer your ?. I was doing over.


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yes, doing the speed limit on sheridan around a blind corner and mid turn there was a puddle of oil about 6' wide and 1" deep lol
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excellent post, thanks for sharing.



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Are you trying to find out if anyone has ever crashed while going 55mph straight down the expressway with no other cars around on a perfectly clear day?

Personally I think there are too many contributing factors to a crash to blame the majority on speed alone. I've seen people that were riding over their head doing 10mph in a 15mph curve!

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its ok cheyenne, ill re write my 1st post to reflect this matter in a easyier sense.

but yes i wanted people to chim in if they crashed or not,
but if they crashed WHILE DOING the speed limited i was asking for them to share.



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Are you trying to find out if anyone has ever crashed while going 55mph straight down the expressway with no other cars around on a perfectly clear day?
lol is that possible?
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ok i re wrote it better.

sorry if i confused anyone.



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Yes. Rider Error. I went into a corner paying attention to a car coming around the corner so I went in late where gravel was on the outside of the curve. So instead of taking the chance of leaning the bike over and possibly hitting the gravel and have the rearend slide way out on me I took it offroad. That was fine until I hit a dip in the grass and got thrown off the bike and onto my right shoulder. OUCH!!


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Yes. I went in late where gravel was on the outside of the curve. So instead of taking the chance of leaning the bike over and possibly hitting the gravel and have the rearend slide way out on me I took it offroad. That was fine until I hit a dip in the grass and got thrown off the bike and onto my right shoulder. OUCH!!

Wow, kinda similar to what happened to me.. $#@! dip in the grass!
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I guess you can call my wreck a crash. Just i was not doing anything wrong, though i will say that i wasn't aware of ALL my surroundings at the time i was rearended.
I think i could of gotten out of it, if i was more aware. but the fact that i only had a very few seconds from the time i heard the wheels of the car screeching to the time of impact if i was checking behind me more as i saw traffic ahead of me comming to a standstill and seen the car behind me not slowing down i may have been able to avoid or move out of the way or flashed my breaklight more or something. but i feel there is always something you could of done to prevent an crash. there are no such things as accidents, cause they are all avoidable in one way or another.

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i know i didn't crash yet on the streets, but i tell you its DUMB ASS LUCK that i haven't on the street.
Ive ran off the road, ran wide into gravel, EVEN so wide, i went across a lane of traffic, with an ON coming car, then drive on the OTHER side of the road in that gravel AS the car went by, THEN got back into the right lane and merged back in with the group. only to find "and i forgot who it was" someone followed me right threw the same steps cause they got targeted on ME

thank GOD i didn't DIE!

guess what? i was speeding, and following to close to a friend in a sharp turn around starvrock park!


here is another, around somewhere in Wisconsin, me and wingit were fucking around, i went blowing by him into a turn that was WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY hot for those SLOW ASS TURN with a TREE on the right side, i knew i couldn't hold the turn????? and freaked and went across the road and into the corn almost!

guess what i was speeding
so far both of these i was speeding, and DIDN'T have enough skills at the time to control the bike threw that shit!.

NOW thats just the major ones i remember. there is countless other little OOPS here and there, all due to going to fast for the road conditions and not knowing the exact lay out of the road and the exact condition on the surface.

the only thing i can try to explain those actions now at this point in my life is like going to a track that you've never been on, seen or study ed, the track hasn't been used in years, i start my bike and turn the throttle to lock "FULL THROTTLE" and i snap off the grip, and then i do my best to control the bike on a course that Ive never even seen on paper, and riding it when i haven't seen how clean the track is.

fucken scary isn't it?
yep, well anyway, i just wanted to add mine, cause i think god is keeping me around for a reason, and maybe thats to help other riders, cause both those times, i could have been DEAD IF the 1 car was 2 seconds faster "my foot almost touched his STEEL bumper as i passed infront" and the second time i went into the corn, if a car was there, there would have been nothing i could do to stop i was flying so hard, i wouldn't have had time to even kiss my own ass good bye.

just wanted to share, and show i am not some holy molly preacher.



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hmm let's see.

speeding once;
Sheridan road infront of Northwestern, low-sided. I was over the limit but not going fast by any means. That was a road condition/rider error.

Not speeding;
2 gravel in turns incidents, both when I was 18 at low speeds.
1 run off the road by someone performing an illegal U-turn, I hit a tree but I was okay. The tree caught the bike and I flew into the grass.

Oh and once on the track in the rain, 2nd race ever, crashed on the white flag lap at Grattan in the uphill blind left before the front straight, 3rd gear, don't know the speed figure 50-60.
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Ive ran off the road, ran wide into gravel, EVEN so wide, i went across a lane of traffic, with an ON coming car, then drive on the OTHER side of the road in that gravel AS the car went by, THEN got back into the right lane and merged back in with the group. only to find "and i forgot who it was" someone followed me right threw the same steps cause they got targeted on ME
That would have been me. I followed, went around the wrong side of the car. Stupid!

OK, but I also crashed on the street before pulling the above listed shananigins with the old SBN crew.

My crash was text book newbie. Off ramp, too fast for my brain and tyres. Not sure if I was really speeding. Thought I felt the front lowsiding, proabably not, probably just a pebel or somthing. Got scared, stood her up on the breaks, fixated on the shoulder, and rode right off. Didn't let go of the breaks, and lost it in the grass/dirt/gravel. Didn't even wear a jacket back then, ended up with some good road rash on my arm and back.

Best part, before going out for that ride, I was watching some road racing on TV. Nothing like getting pumped and then trying to do what you saw on TV! I mean, not really, but it is kind of funny.
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Hmmmmmmm..........

Crash#1. no i wasnt doing the speed limit, watched a friend in front of me crash and followed them and crashed myself. (rider error-target fixtation)

Crash#2. Flat Four last yr went throught twisties 2 some (nameless) someone told me there was a cliff next to me and i fixated on it didnt lean into the turn sat up right and slid out on gravel (while looking at the cliff......target fixation)



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Wow, kinda similar to what happened to me.. $#@! dip in the grass!

I had the same thing happen which all could've been either avoided, or the same result besides a lowside instead of being thrown highside off the bike, if I just leaned over further instead of off-roaded it.

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