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post #1 of 35 (permalink) Old 04-12-2005, 10:50 AM Thread Starter
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I don't plan on doing this, but I find myself doing less and less. And that's using the rear brake at all. I was just wondering if people who ride sportbikes on the street have taken their rear brake off completely. Seems to me like half the time it's just in the way. I plan on getting ss lines for the front soon, but was just curious how many people have taken the rear brakes and lines completely off their bikes totally.

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I never use my rear brake, unless I'm resting my hand and slowing down to stop. I would never take it off though.


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only time i use the rear brake, is for wheelies, and slidin the rear out
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only time i use the rear brake, is for wheelies, and slidin the rear out

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I use the rear brake all of the time when I am going low speeds and I need to make tight maneuvers ie, cutting to the front of the line in stopped traffic. Why would you take it off, weight savings???? I wouldn't worry running a SS line to the rear though unless you couldn't stand the aesthics of having different front and rear brake lines.

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I use the rear brake all of the time when I am going low speeds and I need to make tight maneuvers ie, cutting to the front of the line in stopped traffic. Why would you take it off, weight savings???? I wouldn't worry running a SS line to the rear though unless you couldn't stand the aesthics of having different front and rear brake lines.
No i don't plan on taking them off at all. Was just curious on how many may have taken them off completely. I know I would need them in a pinch, just a little survey.

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I don't plan on doing this, but I find myself doing less and less. And that's using the rear brake at all. I was just wondering if people who ride sportbikes on the street have taken their rear brake off completely. Seems to me like half the time it's just in the way. I plan on getting ss lines for the front soon, but was just curious how many people have taken the rear brakes and lines completely off their bikes totally.

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Whenever the road gets slippery (wet, gravel, oily, etc.), you're gonna want a rear brake. Plus, not having a backup brake in case one fails is asking for trouble.

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I don't use the rear. I used to use both (training taught) and found that the front has been the great tool. On my bike the rear has a tendancy to want to lock up or slide sideways. Plus, when truly braking, all the weight goes to the front and your back is nothing.
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I used to use both on my 9R, but I've grown to use just the front on my 10R. Ask people who ride with me how many times I've locked my rear tire up. I never pressed hard on the rear, it is just so damn sensitive and my bike is so light.

I do use it at stoplights and in slow traffic, though. Like the others said, its good to have a backup.

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I use both at all times. For best braking you need both. I think some of you need to go back and take the Advanced riders course taught by MSF. It proven both together provide best breaking. Thats why on the higher end bikes they are both integrated into one. True it is hard to use just the right amount of pressure. You can always adjust the rear break to make it harder to lock up.

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I always use both. Never locked up my rear. They are both there for a reason. If the rear brake was useless the makers would not put them on, that would be a easy way for them to trim the dry weight, but they don't do it. As long as you don't stomp on the rear brake like a animal your fine.

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rear brake usage should be earned, unless you're riding a harley, then it's a requirement
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By law, on the street, the motorcycle must have both brake systems.
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I think people should realize that physics is a part and yes you can adjust your rear brake but again, when you're braking and your butt is light and your nose is heavy a rear doesn't do much. If you're stopping from a slow speed then it's your option to use both. But using both, if you're not careful or don't know howl to adjust jack, you could start to slide. Who's bearing down hard on their rear anyways?! lol I barely touch my rear and get a lock up. Some bikes are nuts like that. I got some good advice to just use cheap pads in the back to help prevent lock up. Rear brakes can be funny. Still, even on a bicycle the front is primary and the rear a "joke". It's only about 20% of stopping power, not 50%. Same on a motorcycle which weighs a whole lot more!

So I'll change my first entry and just type - I use my feet. Sure I use up a lot of shoes but at least I don't slide anymore. lol

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I learning to use the rear brakes more and more. It definately comes in handy when ya wanna stop real fast.
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I've got linked brakes, but I do find a light touch on the rear-brake pedal handy for getting the brakelight on while riding without rearranging my throttlehand. Also useful when stopped at a light
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On the street, you need both brakes. It takes practice to learn to modulate the back brake properly on some bikes, but duh! Gotta have it.

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I never used to use both but I use both all the time now. At first i would lock it up all the time but now that i'm used to it I don't lock it up. I can definately tell the difference in stopping difference from before i used it.

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Riddle me this.....Your clipping along.....an easy double nickel, the front tire goes flat? Which brake are you going to use to reduce your speed and safely stop? Don't know the answer? You shouldn't be riding!

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Kieth,

the rear break can be useful if used corectly. Try going as slow as you can in a straight line without using the rear brake first and then lightly apply the rear brake and go as slow as you can in a straight line. You should be much more stable with the brake applied. The same principle applies to higher speeds too. It keeps you stable if you know how to feather it without locking it up. To me it's a good habit to use both.

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If the rear brake is useless why did Mick Doohan go to the trouble of having a thumb brake lever designed after losing his ability to activate the rear brake with his foot?

One big thing the rear brake can do is reduce the amount of gyroscopic effect on corner entry. The less gyroscopic force in a straight line the easier turn in becomes.

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Riddle me this.....Your clipping along.....an easy double nickel, the front tire goes flat? Which brake are you going to use to reduce your speed and safely stop? Don't know the answer? You shouldn't be riding!
Hit nail squarely on the head.....good job.
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The rear brake is good in emergencies, when you need to stop fast. It's good to have.

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i use both. helps stop u in a striaght line when you really need to stop fast. has saved me a BUNCH of times.
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Rear brakes rule! Even if you have a slipper clutch... It is true that most of your braking comes from the front, but it is there for a reason. Go ask Freddie, Nicky or Valentino. Or a good dirt rider that moved over to the street. I saw at least 5 good reasons to have and us it listed in the prior posts. Learn to use it! It's your friend.

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I had a hard time learning to use the front brake correctly when I crossed over to pavement. Now I use both all the time. I have heard alot about street guys only using front, tried it and it feels quite unnatural.

Seems like the posts indicate that some of the more experienced riders on here are using both, listen to the advise given young grasshoppers!
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I use both all the time. Thats the way I learned. You know that saying "hard to teach an OLD dog........ What would you do if you were stopped on an incline with no rear brakes?

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post #30 of 35 (permalink) Old 04-13-2005, 10:40 AM
 
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+1 on wheelie control, brake slides for giggles in safe places, and low speed traffic balance, not dragging your feet down at stops and low speeds scores coolness points heh
i used to use the rear brake more than i do now for stopping, it seems more like a special use control lever than a stopper
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