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Lets be careful out there.........

I was almost a hood ornament TWICE today on the way to work.

Both left hand turners.

I was not speeding.

As always I assumed they would pull out in front of me........and they did.

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Like stated --- i ALWAYS expect them to pull out or cut in front. Mostly they always do. I try to always take into account the position of the sun as far as casting glare and visiblity. Sounds dumb i know......

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Like stated --- i ALWAYS expect them to pull out or cut in front. Mostly they always do. I try to always take into account the position of the sun as far as casting glare and visiblity. Sounds dumb i know......
no it doesn't. when i'm ridin i assume everyone is out to get me. That way i try not to be surprised/not ready for anything.
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What I thought was strange was that it happened twice on an 11 mile ride.

It happens a few times a week, but never twice in one day one way within 5 minutes of each other......

One thing I will say, is that daily commuting in rush hours keeps you sharp.

I almost went back home and got the car, I kept thinking of the movie final destination...is it my time?

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I feel your pain, stop and go traffice is a killer. You know because of this, I'm considering putting on a Headlight Modulator.

In short, you can set it to modulate your low or high beam so it's look your flashing your lights but at a controlled pace. Riders have said in reviews that they noticed cagers do a double take, when they're pulling out in front of you or otherwise. Downside is that it looks like your constantly flashing your headlights.

Im thinking of getting it and setting it up to my high beam switch, so when I enter a congested area, I can turn it on, and then these things are federally mandated to have a sensor that disables them when it gets dark so that your lights act normal after dusk. Pretty cool, I must say.

Im also thinking about brake light modulators, as I seem to manually do this anyway everytime I slow down or stop.

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what time was this at? never a good idea to ride in early sunrise/sunset hours when people are dealing with glare...
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Headlight Modulator.

In short, you can set it to modulate your low or high beam so it's look your flashing your lights but at a controlled pace. Riders have said in reviews that they noticed cagers do a double take, when they're pulling out in front of you or otherwise. Downside is that it looks like your constantly flashing your headlights.
Ive heard good and bad about these, Ive also heard they're more dangerous, cause some people take the flashing as a sign to them to go ahead..........as for the brake light modulators, I think they are a good idea.

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what time was this at? never a good idea to ride in early sunrise/sunset hours when people are dealing with glare...
About 8:15 am headed northbound, so glare shouldnt have been the issue.

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I feel your pain, stop and go traffice is a killer. You know because of this, I'm considering putting on a Headlight Modulator.

In short, you can set it to modulate your low or high beam so it's look your flashing your lights but at a controlled pace. Riders have said in reviews that they noticed cagers do a double take, when they're pulling out in front of you or otherwise. Downside is that it looks like your constantly flashing your headlights.

Im thinking of getting it and setting it up to my high beam switch, so when I enter a congested area, I can turn it on, and then these things are federally mandated to have a sensor that disables them when it gets dark so that your lights act normal after dusk. Pretty cool, I must say.

Im also thinking about brake light modulators, as I seem to manually do this anyway everytime I slow down or stop.
A good thing for your tail lights is the Priority Plus module. I got mine from
www.ez-brake.com
It turns your rear turn signals into running lights and flashes them when you hit your brakes a few times before going to high intensity if you are holding the brakes. I should be up at Strats if the weather is nice this week if you wanted to see it.

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wear a big orange vest like the highway construction workers do to increase your visibility
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I dunno, I just don't believe that the cagers aren't seeing the bikers. For the most part, they just aren't looking for traffic at all.

It seems like every time I see someone pull a left in front of me, it's because they're following the guy in front of them. I guess the mental math goes something like, "He just turned, it must be clear, so I can turn and don't have to check."

It's really as though a lot of people let the rest of traffic drive the car for them: the guy in front stops, so I stop; he goes, so I go. I saw a real good example of this at a red light once: two cars, next to each other, stopped at the line. Light turns green, and neither one moves, because each is waiting for the other to go. It took them all of about 15 seconds before one of them woke up and pulled away.

Next time you're on the expressway, in the car, in open traffic, watch for it. You'll see people lock in on one of your back corners, usually in the blind spot, and match speed with you. Same problem.

I don't know what the cure for it is, either. Just watch out, I suppose, and pretend that traffic doesn't see you no matter what you do to be more visible.

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I have to agree with Morrand, I was in my car today and a lady in a minivan turned right in front of me. When I locked up the brake and laid on the horn. The bitch honked back and gave me the finger. WTF. Like it was my fault I almost hit her. I was on the main road and she was turning into a subdivision. People just do not pay attention when they drive anymore.
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wear a big orange vest like the highway construction workers do to increase your visibility
Like this:

http://www.newenough.com/icon_mil_spec_vest_page.htm

Although, it's not so much a visability issue, but more a recoginition issue. Drivers look for car-like object by habit, and even though they may SEE a bike, it doesn't immediately register as what it really is.

I've had people start to turn out in front of my while they were staring right at me, then a second later they slam on the brakes.

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I love when the other person is clearly wrong then gives you the finger after almost causing an accident or blatantly breaking the rules of the road. I hate to generalize, but people seem to not care about anyone else- or think the rules don't apply to them.
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A vest isn't going to help at all. I seen couple cars almost hitting each other in plain view. People are simply a***holes and idiots. I almost got nailed by some soccermom bio*h driving in a van and i was walking. It is common sense that pedestrians have the right of way. But why not cut one off.

First we need a law to ban cell phones. Then cops having authority to pull people over for endangering other peoples lives by pulling last minute turns.

You would think, driving for years would make you a perfect driver. Obviously that isn't true.

Just try avoiding riding in rush hour. Or bring some asphalt with you and chuck it at peoples cars. And just claim it was the stolen asphalt from daily's trucks.
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Or bring some asphalt with you and chuck it at peoples cars. And just claim it was the stolen asphalt from daily's trucks.
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no it doesn't. when i'm ridin i assume everyone is out to get me. That way i try not to be surprised/not ready for anything.

+1 That is the only way to ride! You never have the right of way on a bike.

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Like this:

http://www.newenough.com/icon_mil_spec_vest_page.htm

Although, it's not so much a visability issue, but more a recoginition issue. Drivers look for car-like object by habit, and even though they may SEE a bike, it doesn't immediately register as what it really is.

I've had people start to turn out in front of my while they were staring right at me, then a second later they slam on the brakes.
Jeff Harbor Freight tools has a high visibility vest for construction workers $8.00, I plan to wear on night rides and when it's raining.

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When I locked up the brake and laid on the horn.
The horn is key, I keep my thumb on it ready to go in certain situations, both in city traffic and slower multi lane situations anywhere. It has saved me from atleast two certain accidents the last month, both lane-shifters that didn't bother to check their blindspot. A loud horn is very effective if applied in time!

Never had a left-turner not stop for me, despite that I tend to use the throttle to get through yellow lights at the last minute. I should probably stop doing that.

If you guys ride like you're stating here, ALWAYS assuming the left-turner will not yield, you are setting yourself up for a cager up your ass instead (if you brake unexpectedly and against the flow of traffic). I assume and hope it's only a phrase, not an actual description of your riding.???
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I saw a cager pull that stunt on a cop.. the cop was turning left had to lock his brakes, and INSTANTLY had his lights going... I had the biggest grin.. I'm like, Yeah! Justice finally working!!

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As for headlight modulators, Im not sure yet, as I've personally experience cagers going ahead with the left turn, while I was flashing them to warn of my presence, so that didnt work. I guess I should start using the horn more.

As for brake light modulators, I'm interested in the VisiStop Intelligent modulator. It's intelligent, cause it doesn't repeat it's flashing pattern if the brake is constantly applied, like stopped at a light or on a slope. Reduces being annoying to the people behind. It'll flash in a shorter pattern if brake is applied again.

I'm also interested in the unit that converts your turn signals into running lights and uses them as brake lights too.

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