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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 06-11-2005, 05:39 PM Thread Starter
 
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if your bored cuz its raining fast n furious is on

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did you know that your not suppose to granny shift but to double shift

and ricer cars can go 10sec in the 1/4 mile
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and ricer cars can go 10sec in the 1/4 mile
They are quicker than that!
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They are quicker than that!
+1...i've seen a '96 ford probe, turned rear driver, with a twin turbo 2.3l cosworth engine turn high 7's...
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+1...i've seen a '96 ford probe, turned rear driver, with a twin turbo 2.3l cosworth engine turn high 7's...
but thats a domestic. And the 2.3l have been around for a long time before ricers.


Imports getting into 7s are ones racing for a living. Not ricers tuning their rides.
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i like how the Charger at the end does a burnout and a wheelie at the same time. um, you can't lift the fronts like that if the rear tires aren't getting traction. it's called physics.

also, how these "10 second" cars take like 3 minutes to cover a 1/4 mile. i know they're action scenes in a car movie, but i couldn't get over that...

or the RX7 that goes so fast, the floorboard rivets pop out? wtf?

AND it's that damned movie that got all the posers calling nitrous/nitrous oxide/N O S/juice/the bottle/spray/N2O/etc "NAUSS" I've never heard that before in my life. NOS is a brand of nitrous oxide kits pronounced N-O-S.

the cars wouldn't be all that bad if they lost the stupid body kits and ghey graphics...
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its on USA

did you know that your not suppose to granny shift but to double shift

and ricer cars can go 10sec in the 1/4 mile
actually he said "double clutch" not "double shift". Either way its retarded, modern cars dont require this.

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i like how the Charger at the end does a burnout and a wheelie at the same time. um, you can't lift the fronts like that if the rear tires aren't getting traction. it's called physics.

or the RX7 that goes so fast, the floorboard rivets pop out? wtf?

The burnout/wheelie actually happened. They had to do it a few times, but there was just enough traction to lift and plenty of hp to break 'em loose (making on the movie) and it was a green Eclipse.

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actually he said "double clutch" not "double shift". Either way its retarded, modern cars dont require this.
modern cars from the 50s/60s right
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The burnout/wheelie actually happened. They had to do it a few times, but there was just enough traction to lift and plenty of hp to break 'em loose (making on the movie) and it was a green Eclipse.
I hope you're not serious, the car had a lift under it that picked up the front. Do you think they spent the money to use a car that was actually fast?? It was a ricer movie, remember..
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I hope you're not serious, the car had a lift under it that picked up the front. Do you think they spent the money to use a car that was actually fast?? It was a ricer movie, remember..
but i thought that the s2000 had over 100 grand under the hood?
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but i thought that the s2000 had over 100 grand under the hood?
They were doing a whole 45 mph at the finish from what I saw Maybe they need a low-speed camera to make it look like they were flying through the finish line

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i like how the Charger at the end does a burnout and a wheelie at the same time. um, you can't lift the fronts like that if the rear tires aren't getting traction. it's called physics.
You get a wheelie when the moment generated at the contact patch exceeds that generated by the weight of the vehicle, all referred back to the rear axle. If the dynamic coefficient of friction at the rear wheels is high enough during the burnout to allow that kind of moment to develop, then yeah, you'd wheelie and burnout at the same time.

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You get a wheelie when the moment generated at the contact patch exceeds that generated by the weight of the vehicle, all referred back to the rear axle. If the dynamic coefficient of friction at the rear wheels is high enough during the burnout to allow that kind of moment to develop, then yeah, you'd wheelie and burnout at the same time.

Is that the kind of physics you were looking for?
i know the physics of a wheelie. and i completely comprehend the physics involved during of the loss of friction resulting in a burnout. even if i can't write an equation up for either off the top of my head...

show me a real car doing a huge, billowing burnout (thus, generating the heat in the tires required to accomplish said burnout) while lifting the front 5 feet in the air for almost 100 feet on a public road like in the movie. these weren't little tire scratches or chirps, but a huge NHRA style burnout with the front tires in the air.

you can very easily launch and lose traction then lift the front that high when the tires finally hook. that's not what happened in the movie.
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i know the physics of a wheelie. and i completely comprehend the physics involved during of the loss of friction resulting in a burnout. even if i can't write an equation up for either off the top of my head...

show me a real car doing a huge, billowing burnout (thus, generating the heat in the tires required to accomplish said burnout) while lifting the front 5 feet in the air for almost 100 feet on a public road like in the movie. these weren't little tire scratches or chirps, but a huge NHRA style burnout with the front tires in the air.

you can very easily launch and lose traction then lift the front that high when the tires finally hook. that's not what happened in the movie.
The thing is, you're not losing friction in a burnout. If you lost friction, all you'd be doing is spinning the wheels--like what happens on an icy road when you start out too quickly. What friction you've got is the dynamic friction between the tire and the tarmac, and that's what smokes up the tire, etc.

In any burnout, you get a torque on the axle as a result of that friction force. Normally, all it's going to do is unweight the front a little. What I'm suggesting is that, if you had the right weight distribution and tire characteristics, you could potentially get enough torque about the axle to lift the front clear. Once you've done that, there's nothing to hold the vehicle back, and the reaction starts driving it forward--and that gets you the "100 feet down the road" part.

All that being said, I'll easily agree that it's a really unlikely situation: you'd need the perfect combination of tire compound, pavement composition, weighting, engine characteristics, and probably a dozen or more other factors to make it work. But it's not impossible.

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