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post #1 of 51 (permalink) Old 06-14-2005, 04:56 PM Thread Starter
 
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I-Pass is getting sued finally

I wish i owned one so i can sue them too.


Several people have filed a lawsuit against the IL tollway. The complaint is that many people who own I pass are being asked to come to I pass court. People will use I pass and if the tolls miss the car 5 times, they will be asked to pay a fine. There is something wrong with the system that people who are really in the system are being hassled with this. Plus, the tech support sucks too and doesn't help any of these people at all.

They are also bringing into court the issue that tolls were suppose to be eliminated 40 years ago.

I can find a link, but channel 7 did an investigation into this.
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The most that these people will get is getting out of the fines. IL will never get rid of the cash cow that is the Tollway system.

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i'd like to see the link to this cause i call bs. The cars plates are registered, so if the transponder fails, they will look up the plates, and charge you accordingly, without any fines.
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That still gets me.. how can the state legislators all sit in a big room and go
all in favor of DOUBLING the tolls in ILLINOIS say "AYE"
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and it passes?!?!?!?

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That still gets me.. how can the state legislators all sit in a big room and go
all in favor of DOUBLING the tolls in ILLINOIS say "AYE"
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and it passes?!?!?!?
They didn't. The legislature doesn't set tolls. It's the ISTHA that does.

Back on topic: I agree with bwa, I want to see where this is coming from so I can see exactly what basis these people have got for their claims. It's no good simply claiming that you shouldn't have to pay a fine for not having the transponder in the car. If that's one of the terms of use, then either you've got to have the thing installed, or pay cash, or get off the tollway.

If it's that they're getting fined without the opportunity for a proper trial, though, then they've probably got something there.

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i'd like to see the link to this cause i call bs. The cars plates are registered, so if the transponder fails, they will look up the plates, and charge you accordingly, without any fines.

My transponder fails constantly...I always get $100 fines in the mail for it. All you have to do is mail it back in with your ipass account number and a check for the amount of tolls missed. It's a bunch of bs.
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My transponder fails constantly...I always get $100 fines in the mail for it. All you have to do is mail it back in with your ipass account number and a check for the amount of tolls missed. It's a bunch of bs.
You should send them a bill for your time and the stamp.

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I think its a bs article...I go through without my transponder all the time and they just bill me for it.
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When I am on my bike, the transponder hardly ever works... even when being held high in the air. I have never received a bill or fine.
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Yeah, I havent velcroed my transponder to the bike's windsheild and it takes me at least a minute to trigger the I-pass in the automatic lanes, walking back and forth with the bike and waving it around like crazy

yeah, and you guys probably know about I-355 - that the 50 cents toll was because they thought they wouldnt make their money back in time, and I think they made it back in like 6 months of opening that tollway, but no way are they going to back down the toll.

Man, and we have such high sales tax too, how much money are they making here? But the roads are still crappy....

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The cars plates are registered, so if the transponder fails, they will look up the plates, and charge you accordingly, without any fines.
Yeah, that's what I was told when I called up to report that my transponder didn't register. I was also told it may take a few weeks for it to get into the system.

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thats funny cause I just got a violation notice with a nice picture of my ass on it.

All I had to do was call them and give them my transponder number and they deducted the toll and waived the fine... no court?
But what I dont get is my bike is linked to my Ipass.. they couldnt figure that out?

I told them my I pass was with me on all accounts, and they admitted to having problems with bikes... so going forward, I will get another violation notice and I have to call again... thats there idea of a Ipass system.

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Yeah ipass on the bike is total crap, I wave that thing all over the place and it almost never works. They need to design one that works on bikes.
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oh ya that was a good nap.

here ya go.
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/news/spec...ate_tolls.html

theres even a video link too, but havn't tried it.
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I've always ridden through on my bike and in cars, no problem. Even when I was test driving cars when it required me to drive on the highway, with the IPass in the glove compartment it still registered. But this is America and if you can come up with a frivalus(sp) lawsuit so you never have to work again, congrats to you
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putting this on the 2nd page cuz everyone thinks im a liar
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Take this toll from my cold, dead hand!

"The toll authority says there have been similar challenges in the past, which failed."

I remember this being a case in the past. It's so obvious that this needs to be closed and I don't even use it! It's like anything else. It's easy for the politicians or in this case a legal authority to put something in place. It's Hell for The People to eliminate it.
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Man, and we have such high sales tax too, how much money are they making here? But the roads are still crappy....
Living in the one of the most corrupt cities in the world... think about the cta, how they need to raise prices for fares... how many people commute on the cta a day? lets just say 1 million people at 1.75 plus .25 transfer... thats 2 million a day... granted paying the workers, electricity, repairs.... i know that is a lot of money going in and out, but really that is probably a low estimate of funds coming in per day... even at that though it is 730 million a year, almost 3/4 of a billion dollars... seems like a lot of money to me to keep everyone on a tight leash, plus the ridiculous amount it costs to have a vehicle and park it in the city... let alone the stupid fines they hand out, you put the toll money on top of that, where does the money go? sure as hell doesn't go into making the actual streets any better or remedying the parking situation. sorry a bit of a rant there, had a couple drinks after a late night at work!

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Living in the one of the most corrupt cities in the world... think about the cta, how they need to raise prices for fares... how many people commute on the cta a day? lets just say 1 million people at 1.75 plus .25 transfer... thats 2 million a day... granted paying the workers, electricity, repairs.... i know that is a lot of money going in and out, but really that is probably a low estimate of funds coming in per day... even at that though it is 730 million a year, almost 3/4 of a billion dollars... seems like a lot of money to me to keep everyone on a tight leash, plus the ridiculous amount it costs to have a vehicle and park it in the city... let alone the stupid fines they hand out, you put the toll money on top of that, where does the money go? sure as hell doesn't go into making the actual streets any better or remedying the parking situation. sorry a bit of a rant there, had a couple drinks after a late night at work!

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lol loki, i hear ya! if only i could get the trash guy to sell my heroin for me... oh wait I would have to get in line for that, and then I could probably get a tax break to boot!!!! by the way you work out at CCC right? was looking at picking up some SIDI boots out there, and maybe my bike if the service dpt can figure out what is up with it. planning on stopping in tomorrow (wed) will you be working?
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lol loki, i hear ya! if only i could get the trash guy to sell my heroin for me... oh wait I would have to get in line for that, and then I could probably get a tax break to boot!!!! by the way you work out at CCC right? was looking at picking up some SIDI boots out there, and maybe my bike if the service dpt can figure out what is up with it. planning on stopping in tomorrow (wed) will you be working?
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Ha......I have taken the toll road exactly once on the bike, thinking it would be faster, than 20, what a mistake. I have the I-pass, didn't have it with me, I blew every toll, the I-pass is linked to my plates, I haven't received a fine (yet), that day I was riding with two others, I watched in horror as one rider, at about 60, in heavy traffic, unzips his jacket pocket, takes his I-pass out, and is waving it in the air, I thought he was freaking nuts! It's dangerous enough on the tolls for a rider, waving a stupid I-pass around is just nuts. My solution.....I don't ride the toll roads, it's the last place I want to be on a bike.

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I have a transponder that had a digital display that shows you the amount paid and the total in your balance. Now it just beeps when going through the tolls. So, I stopped at the IL Tollway in Downers Grove to complain of my transponder just working and they told me this type of transponder has been recalled. They gave me a new one, including wiping all the tolls that did not register. IL Tollway is replacing all of these types of transponders with new ones that register better when passing through a toll. If this is true or not...who knows.

Funny thing is I never knew this type of transponder was recalled until I walked in to talk to them about it. Seems like a tatic to have you pay fines until you ask the right questions.

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I tried the Ipass in my jacket pocket while on the bike and it didn't register. Then I put it in the tail and I get the blue light each time.

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iPass has yet to work on my bike. I tried putting it in the tail and in my jacket pocket. I have also never been billed for missed tolls. One of these days, I expect to be summoned to court.
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Several people have filed a lawsuit against the IL tollway. The complaint is that many people who own I pass are being asked to come to I pass court. People will use I pass and if the tolls miss the car 5 times, they will be asked to pay a fine. There is something wrong with the system that people who are really in the system are being hassled with this. Plus, the tech support sucks too and doesn't help any of these people at all.
The facts contained within your post are incorrect. Furthermore, there are strict guidelines that must be adhered to when using an I-Pass. Failure to do so, could result in fines. The class action lawsuit will go nowhere, the Tollway is acting in accordance to the terms and conditions contained within the original agreement.

Some instances reported on, are cases of people knowingly, or unknowingly, using the I-Pass in non-authorized vehicles, or not at all.

I have had an I-Pass for 4 years, and I have yet to have a problem.
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The facts contained within your post are incorrect. Furthermore, there are strict guidelines that must be adhered to when using an I-Pass. Failure to do so, could result in fines. The class action lawsuit will go nowhere, the Tollway is acting in accordance to the terms and conditions contained within the original agreement.

Some instances reported on, are cases of people knowingly, or unknowingly, using the I-Pass in non-authorized vehicles, or not at all.

I have had an I-Pass for 4 years, and I have yet to have a problem.
dont see anything wrong with my facts. All were based on the news.

If Ipass is so perfect then why are people on here have trouble with it?

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must feel good grabbing your ankles for the gov. blagoavich(sp)
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If Ipass is so perfect then why are people on here have trouble with it?
I did not read about any problems. There is a 50/50 chance of it working on a bike. It is no matter, if the plate is registered to the transponder as it should be, then the tolls are automatically deducted.

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must feel good grabbing your ankles for the gov. blagoavich(sp)
What exactly does Blagojavich have to do with the tollway?
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