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post #1 of 38 (permalink) Old 06-14-2005, 09:08 PM Thread Starter
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Aaak My Wife Wants To Ride My 929!

Oh man, I sold her 600 Fizzer out from under her because she scared me when I rode with her and I couldn't see my wife and mother of our daughter biting it. Now she told me that since I sold her 600 she wants to ride my 929 to practice her skills before she forgets what she learned when she took the motorcycle safety course 2 years ago. I know at best she will tool around the area 2-4 times a year, but that just always leaves her in the danger zone.

This is not a good thing. I know the 929 is in most cases easier to ride than her old Fizzer and it's been dropped so the plastic isn't "pure", but... ummm... well... geeze... It's a Bruce tweaked liter bike and she doesn't ride for shit!!! You can get in touble fast on it if you are not thinking. All she needs to do is grab the brake lever or accidentally ninja the throttle.

I'm VERY uncomfortable with this.

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Let the air out of the tires every time she mentions it. Thats what I do.

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Put it up on the rear stand and say "its being worked on."

Well, if I were in your shoes I would tell her you're not comfortable letting her ride a literbike. Its a lot different than riding an older Fizzer and she wouldn't have any fun on it. Just explain to her what you said to us, about the thottle and brakes. Hopefully she'll understand that its not your bike you are worried about, its her safety you are worried about.

Seriously, you sold her Fizzer out from under her? Poor woman. I got my gf's permission before I sold her bike.

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man don't let her do it if she isn't comfortable on a bike....my wife has her own bike...and i ride with her regularly so i know she would be fine...but if your wife isn't up to it and doesn't know about the life saving clutch incase of too much throttle...you asking for disaster...that is the first thing i taught the wife....cover the clutch and pull it in if you give it too much throttle...

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My wife wanted to learn how to ride too, so I figured instead of going against her wishes I agreed with her. So we went out to Jewel parking lot, sat on the bike with her (me in the back) and told her to play with gears, throttle, clutch, etc. Of course the first things she did was to pull the throttle all the way. I explained and showed her the cosequences of doing that. Then we moved on to the balancing act, lifting the bike in case she drops it. This is when it finally hit her that it might just be too much for her. We ride together fairly often but I'm just way to scared to let her ride alone or even with me at her side, you just never know. Mind you she's small.
Ladies, those of you who ride, more power to you and I want you to know that I'm doing this just because I am too damn scared to even think about what could happen.
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Doesn't Shadrach have a Ninja 250 for sale?

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Bruce, there is only one solution: Buy "her" a 50.


she can keep her skills sharp and you can keep the 50 in top condition by riding it whenever she isnt.

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Bruce, my wife is taking the MSF course end of the month, I want to get her a 250 Rebel, she thinks it's too small, wants something bigger, I'm leery too, so I can relate to your problem.

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Buy another bike for her. Something. My brother was working with his GF. Got her a F3. She took MSF, did good, but then just freaked while practicing and got hurt really bad. Air flighted... took a long, long time to recover. It happens, even though as good riders we can't see why someone can lose control so easily. Make sure she understands what you're worried about, just like you stated here.

Find out what type of riding she likes to do, what bikes turn her on, and get one for her. Hell, I have a ball on a Zuma. Maybe she'd like a cruiser, a classic naked bike, who knows. Be thankful she's interested in riding, it's something you can share. But be forceful and work with her so she becomes a better rider and understands the ramafications. Remember, she probably feels the exact way you feel about her. She worries about you getting hurt on that bike...
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tell her about the other woman in your life. That will change the subject.
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Doesn't Shadrach have a Ninja 250 for sale?
Hey, that's no laughing matter.....I'd say, get her that. Get her skills up to par, then let her pick out a bike she really likes!
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I'm with Jack on this one. Get her a decent size scooter. They're fun as hell, easier to ride as there's less to worry about, and a great way to build up the skillset and "highway eyes". She'll be able to keep your slow ass in sight when you go out for rides...and they hold their value well enough that you can sell and upgrade if she gets hooked.

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My wife used to ride. I bought her an F4 back in 2000 when I got my Busa. She took the classes got her license and was doing really well learning. But I like you was nervous as hell watchng her ride next to me. All I could think about was her getting hurt and I couldnt concentrate on my own ride. She finnly decided she was more comfortable on the back also and we traded her F4 in on a cruiser. Best decision we have ever made. We have more fun together on the cruiser than I ever thought we would.

Now my wife still does like to play around with my crf 70 and she might bget another bike someday, if she wants to I wont stop her. but right now I'm happy to have her on the back.




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Scooter eh? Did you see that one in 2 Wheel Tuner? They show how to derestrict it, pit bike...do it!

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Hey, that's no laughing matter.....I'd say, get her that. Get her skills up to par, then let her pick out a bike she really likes!
Don't get me wrong, they're great first bikes, I just thought that he was looking more for advice to explain how his wife made him uneasy

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Bruce, my wife is taking the MSF course end of the month, I want to get her a 250 Rebel, she thinks it's too small, wants something bigger, I'm leery too, so I can relate to your problem.
Thats what I did Mothers day 04' I got my lady a rebel and me the 1KRR, she does very good on it, she gets alot of seat time with me, and by herself for short little rides, she goes over to JCC and does the course quite often. I make it a point not to leave her on rides with the 1KRR, she is already making hints at wanting to upgrade to a bigger cc bike, she still has to take MSF course, she has her permit and took the written. I for one am happy she wants to ride and is involved in motorcycles with me. RICK rebel was the best purchase I made, I like tooling around the hood with it too....GOOD LUCK

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Sometimes we don't realize the anguish we put others through until we walk in their shoes.

If she's passionate about riding let her ride. If it's just a fad it'll pass. In the meantime guide her in the right direction and take confidence you did your best to teach her how to be safe. Also, if need be put her on a dirtbike or something to practice if need be.

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Thanks guys. I sort of hoped one of the gals would have chimed in. Maybe tell me I'm being a self centered typical male.

I know her. She wants to do it just because I ride. That is cool, as it is why we do most things together. Given time I'm sure she will be at least OK. It's just getting through the first 2-3 years. She is pretty good about not worrying too much about me. Heck, after having my shoulder rebuilt I think I worry more about me.

Maybe I can lower the 125 so she can munge around in the dirt just to get used to where everything is so she doesn't have to think too much. Then do another street bike. That's basically what I did all those years ago. Then I bought a crazy Kaw H2 750 for my first street bike and I'm still around. Hmmm, if she "gets it" maybe I can change out the front springs and pawn the 929 off on her next year and get a new toy.

I'm going to play this by ear. Thus far it's only talk. In the time being, I think I'll leave the seat off with the tender hooked up and mutter about the charging system. Plus, I'd need to add her to the insurance.

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I think it's great that Krystal rides and wouldn't have it any other way. To the guys that don't have a lady that rides to me is missing out on some quality time. Do I worry??? HELL YEA!!! But I'm not gonna hold her back from riding alone as some guys on here do. I believe that will only discourage the lady from wanting to ride. YOU ARE NOT HER FATHER!! You are her spouse/equal and shouldn't want to discourage anything. I say quit acting like her father and get your lady out there to ride more. Yes you can worry and still let them ride. Let them grow don't hold them back.


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Hawk GT is an awsome bike for a wife (40 hp, etc.) I was going to sell it out from under her but I got the subtle hint, "YOU BETTER NOT sell my bike!" We had a baby 6 months ago and she hasn't ridden in a year.

I would let her ride my bike because I will tell her, "drop my bike and it becomes my track bike and I get to buy another street bike!"
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I sort of hoped one of the gals would have chimed in.
If you dont think she is that skilled of a rider, and are worried that the bike will be too much for her, then simply dont let her ride it and tell her why. If my bf suddenly didnt want me riding with him, and knocked my skilles I would get pretty pissed, but if he explained what was going on and had a legitimate reason for worrying, then it would be a whole different story. I would still get a little mad, but when you know the whole story, its easier to accept.

Maybe she should take another MSF course. Ride Chicago is working on an advanced course I believe, and since she already knows the basics of shifing, something more advanced just might be the thing. They also give private lessons, and I know you could talk to the guys about the problem and work out a solution with them. I dont know much about any of the other MSF courses, but Im sure there are a TON of options. Maybe even take her out for a track day?

It definatly sounds like she needs her own bike. Try getting together a list (with pictures) of different beginner bikes that would be good for her. She might see something she likes, then you wont have to worry about her being on too big a bike. Take her riding in parking lots, and back country roads where you can work with her on her riding skills. Shes going to need the most support from you, and will listen to you more than anyone. I love getting constructive critisism on my riding, it means I get to constantly improve. If she doesnt know she is doing something wrong, then shes not going to change it. And you are going to need to be confident in her skills before you too really do some rides together. If you arent confident in her, she wont be confident in herself.

This kind of reminds me of my friend John. He wasnt skilled enough to be on the bike he had, and it had some serious consequences. Start from the beginning, thats the most important part.
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Also if she wants to ride, is she dead set on sportbikes or is she just leaning that way becasue she afraid youll give her shit for wanting a cruiser. I know if my wife hated the feel of her F4, but she loved the cruiser in the MSF course. she felt much more confident on it. Make sure if you buy her something she is getting what she wants and not what you want her to have.




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Want a wife's perspective?? Here you go...

Nolan basically chose my first bike for me. Of course, he "involved" me in the decision, but really I didn't have a clue about bikes anyways - just knew I wanted to ride. He bought me the littlest cruiser out there - a Kawasaki BN125. Not super expensive, and topped out at about 62mph. I took MSF, and worked on parking lot skills. After that, it was alot of tooling around on country roads with hubby watching my six. I know it was super stressful for both of us - for different reasons. I was trying to learn, and he was trying NOT to picture me wrecking and getting hurt.

After about a year, 62mph was too slow for me. I made noises about getting a sportbike and actually decided on a bike on my own. When I finally told him what I wanted, he went to the dealership with me the next day and we bought my F4i. I had one safe season on that bike and wrecked it the next season. Put myself in the emergency room, etc. I'm sure that was Nolan's worst nightmare. Getting that kind of call while you're at work and having to haul a$$ all the way out to Morris from Naperville? Not cool. Only he can tell you exactly what that was like.

It took several months for me to recover, and then it was winter so I didn't worry about a new bike. But riding had really gotten under my skin, and by February I was ready to get out again. Nolan had spent the last half of summer riding without me, and I think he missed having his in-house riding partner with him. The rewards of time spent together and a passion for riding has outweighed the fear of either of us getting hurt while riding.

As a final thought - I worry about my husband when he rides too. If I'm not with him when he's riding, I'm thinking about him and praying that he'll get home safely. I never want to see him get hurt. That said, I wouldn't sell his bike out from under him just because of that fear.

I don't know if any of this helps - everyone's different, and you should make your own decision based on what's best for you and your wife. But us wives like to be involved in the decision-making process
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My.02 cents...

If my better half sold my bike out from under me i would be pissed. i can understand you worring about her and all but we were all unskilled, wobbly riders at one point. If ya dont want her riding your bike then #1 maybe you should have sold hers and #2 maybe get her a 250 sportbike or cruiser to replace her other one, that way she can get the practice we ALL needed when we started out. put yourself in her shoes how would you feel if you went out one day and your bike was gone. wether you rode it or not.......

remember she is an adult and this is a respect thing in almost everyway. like i stated i know you worry but do you think she doesnt??? yet you still have your bike and go out riding when you want to.

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All you guys are lucky to have wifes/GFs that ride with you at all. My EX hated the idea of a bike altogether so that's why I didn't even get started until last year, and I mostly ride alone (or not at all until that new regulator gets here).

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If you really want her to learn to ride, how about some track days on something small like that Ninja 250 mentioned earlier?

I know, I know. It might sound like a little extreme idea at first glance, but in my opinion the track is a much, much safer environment to learn on than the street.

NESBA has the intro deal that is free to try. One of the control riders in the beginner group is a lady named Carol Drucker and she is really good at working with new riders. If she likes it, pay the track fee and stay the rest of the day.

Who knows, she might end up like many of us and figure out the riding on the track is WAY funner (and safer) than riding on the street dodging cagers.

BTW, quite a few chicks out there mixing it up this past weekend at the new track in Joliet. Very cool.

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In no particular order...

1. Since I had friends riding her bike more than she did, it really wasn't worth keeping it. We did jointly agree to off it. I was basicly sinking a g a year into it when you add every thing up. Over 2+ years she road it about 6 times max. I think it worked out to $400 a ride. That was a little pricy.

2. If we did get a new bike for her, I think I'd be back in the same situation where it will just sit in the garage and rot.

3. She doesn't like cruisers and that whole scene. She thinks HDs are for loosers. (I can pick them! No offence to my sportbike challenged brothers. ) On the other hand she isn't totally sold on needing a true sportbike. Maybe a SV650 or another UJM is a much better choice. Aside from the inseam issue, I don't understand why so many think girls would be better off on or want a cruiser. Plus Grace has a 30" inseam so this isn't an issue for her.

4. Frankly, she has ridden with me, knows my general attitude, abilities and knows how I ride. Only one time down on the street in almost 30 years. Of course, as my shoulder knows it only takes once and a single easy low side in the grass on the track isn't a bad record. Frankly, I may be done with the track as part of my overall risk management. She is worried less about me getting hurt than I am. Furthmore, she and her family believe that when your time is up it's up. There really isn't a big issue from her side about me riding. Quit often if it's nice out and I'm home she is asking me why I'm not out riding. Heck, we met racing sailboats and the day we met was the closest I ever came to being on a boat where someone almost got killed. I was really rahter dramatic and she came back to race with us the next week. This is my issue, not her's. Further, if it was just Grace and me I'd be much better about it. It's our 4 year old daughter. The 2 of them are the closest mom/daughter combo I've ever seen. If anything happened to her mom, she would be devistated. I'm not a good replacement.

5. She isn't really interested in the track. This is just something to do. If I didn't ride she admitted that she would have no interest. Personally, I don't think that is a good reason to ride, but it's not my choice.

For now, I'll just play it by ear. If she pushes, I'll cross my fingers and let her tool around on the 929 with strong words of advise and caution about it being able to bite you in an eyeblink. I really don't want to buy another bike for occational use. If she starts riding on a more regular basis, I'll consider getting a used midsized something.

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Pfffit... You're stressing over nothing. When she finally presses you hard enough, and after the requisite amount of "I'll think about it" sex - dress her up in your gear, find a parking lot, and let her burn through a tank of gas with a big smile on her face.

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Pat, the spousal unit has all her own crap down to bots, gauntlets, Arai helmet, JR textile jacket and pants and JR leathers I got at deep discount. She has had the dress up part down for years. We are well past the parking lot phase.

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