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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 09-19-2005, 09:53 PM Thread Starter
 
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Hey everybody, I dont post that much anymore but I am going to try and catch up. I am 19 now and am going to school for EMT, firescience classes. But I dont think I want to do that anymore. I just dont like the EMT part, so I am thinking about being a mechanic. I love bikes and would LOVE to build/repair them. My ? for the mechanics out there, how much around do you make? Is there a big demand for you? Do you like your job, or wish you did something else? Thanks in advance, I need direction.

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Just looking for a job as a Motorcycle mechanic would really limit your opportunities. Most of the guys that worked at my dealer(s) just ended up there. It depends on what your looking to make as far as $$$$$ but I wouldn't expect much.




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If you plan to go that route, check out AMI, the best school is in Daytona , Florida, just right down the street from the track.. You get huge exposure to all the big boys and brands.... My friend went there and we were allowed to visit and take tours..

During Bike Weeks they hold the Shootout Dyno challenge at the school and the students run it.....

If I did it all over I would have went out of high school.. You actually live there on site..

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All you have to do is follow three simple rules. One, never under estimate your opponent (mentality). Expect the unexpected (could work out in your favor). Two, take it outside(or to a table). Never start anything inside the Bar unless it's absolutely necessary. And three, be nice.



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True CHI1000RR, make sure you get trained in all things, Motorcycle, Jet Ski's, go carts, small engime mowers, Generators etc. do not limit your self..

And if you are focused on money alone, then...Not sure that is what you will be happy with.. But should be a trade off, happy at your job and love what you do vs just money but miserable as hell...

With that training you could do madd side jobs for cough cough under the table work.......$$$$$$ Bike and Bi I mean girls!!!! Daytona, get a TEam job for a racers yeah baby!!!!!! Al Ludington Honda.........Been there for years...

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Life's Journey Is Not To Arrive At The Grave Safely In A Well Preserved Body, But Rather To Skid In Sideways, Totally Worn Out, Shouting "HOLY SHIT... What A Ride!"

All you have to do is follow three simple rules. One, never under estimate your opponent (mentality). Expect the unexpected (could work out in your favor). Two, take it outside(or to a table). Never start anything inside the Bar unless it's absolutely necessary. And three, be nice.



Turning Shit into Sugar!!
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Life's Journey Is Not To Arrive At The Grave Safely In A Well Preserved Body, But Rather To Skid In Sideways, Totally Worn Out, Shouting "HOLY SHIT... What A Ride!"

All you have to do is follow three simple rules. One, never under estimate your opponent (mentality). Expect the unexpected (could work out in your favor). Two, take it outside(or to a table). Never start anything inside the Bar unless it's absolutely necessary. And three, be nice.



Turning Shit into Sugar!!

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Thanks, im looking for insite though. Are there any mechanics out there that can throw some info this way...
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post #8 of 19 (permalink) Old 09-19-2005, 10:42 PM
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The BF is the lead tech at Lake Shore Harley. Has been turning wrenches professionally for 30 years. Owned his own business for 10 years. Has worked with the race program at the factory, developing the NOVA project (forerunner to the VR series). Has built many custom bikes, built/tuned several successful dragbikes, including Top Fuel. Started out as an aircraft mechanic on a carrier in the Navy during the Viet Nam war. And is a fucking McGuyver when it comes to fixing stuff 'on the fly'.

His advice? Stick with the EMT/fire science stuff, and motorcycle repair as a hobby. Why? Easy. You'll spend all that money for tuition at AMI/MMI/whatever. Learn some cool stuff. Then, you'll have to go buy tools. You'll graduate with student loan debt, tool expense, and then head off to your first job as a "real" mechanic. Then, reality will set in. Starting pay is in the vicinity of $10 per hour (less than $21,000 per year). You'll spend the first year or so mounting tires, washing bikes... when the shop owner sees you don't fuck that up too badly, they'll "promote" you to oil changes and simple stuff like new-bike prep. Forget about getting into engine building or anything like that for at least 4-5 years, until you've proven that you can do your work in a manner that is profitable for the dealership (not only do you have to be good at what you do, you need to be able to complete the job in LESS than "book time"). Even with extensive experience, you'll be lucky to see $17-18 per hour.

Here's the kicker: You can offer yourself as an "apprentice" at a local dealership... doing tire changes, washing bikes, etc. etc. all for the same $10/hour.... without shelling out beaucoup bucks for school. Eventually, as you prove yourself, you'll graduate to doing oil changes, etc. etc... sound familiar?

Starting salary for fire/paramedics is what - something like $40,000 a year? And if you get a gig like the Chicago Fire Department, you'll have enough spare time to work as many hours as you want at a bike shop - plus have enough money to actually be able to afford a bike of your own.

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post #9 of 19 (permalink) Old 09-19-2005, 10:54 PM
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Great KB , That is what I think he was looking for... Thank the BF also.....

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Life's Journey Is Not To Arrive At The Grave Safely In A Well Preserved Body, But Rather To Skid In Sideways, Totally Worn Out, Shouting "HOLY SHIT... What A Ride!"

All you have to do is follow three simple rules. One, never under estimate your opponent (mentality). Expect the unexpected (could work out in your favor). Two, take it outside(or to a table). Never start anything inside the Bar unless it's absolutely necessary. And three, be nice.



Turning Shit into Sugar!!
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post #10 of 19 (permalink) Old 09-19-2005, 11:04 PM Thread Starter
 
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Damn thanks, very dissapointing. HHhmmm that sucks.

Thanks for the info.
What are some of the perfessions that you people have?
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Does the EMT thing bother you for some reason now?
Don't answer that's your business.
If you like to use your hands and create things, you might consider machining.
I'm a sr. applications engineer in the metalworking industry. Fun at times when I'm allowed to make stuff that nobody has made before but sucks when I have to do the customer complaint stuff.

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post #12 of 19 (permalink) Old 09-19-2005, 11:19 PM
 
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The problem with motorcycles is being able to find a job. You can try calling up dealers around here and see if they are looking for people. Having an education isn't any good if there is no real demand.

Auto mechanics is something you might be better off getting into. Kb's boyfriend is on the right track. You start off small and when your boss knows you dont screw up. They start letting you diagnose and do real jobs. But your looking at spending 10,000s of dollars in tools. But your education is a lot cheaper because a lot of community colleges offer it.


It is a smart idea to finish school with more then one degree. So when you argue with people on the internet, your always right cuz you got X+1 degree then them But you will have something to fall back on, if you get injured or dont like the job anymore.

Theres a few guys on here that work on cars for a living. They can always offer advice if your looking into the car thing.
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post #13 of 19 (permalink) Old 09-19-2005, 11:26 PM
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The BF is the lead tech at Lake Shore Harley. Has been turning wrenches professionally for 30 years. Owned his own business for 10 years. Has worked with the race program at the factory, developing the NOVA project (forerunner to the VR series). Has built many custom bikes, built/tuned several successful dragbikes, including Top Fuel. Started out as an aircraft mechanic on a carrier in the Navy during the Viet Nam war. And is a fucking McGuyver when it comes to fixing stuff 'on the fly'.

His advice? Stick with the EMT/fire science stuff, and motorcycle repair as a hobby. Why? Easy. You'll spend all that money for tuition at AMI/MMI/whatever. Learn some cool stuff. Then, you'll have to go buy tools. You'll graduate with student loan debt, tool expense, and then head off to your first job as a "real" mechanic. Then, reality will set in. Starting pay is in the vicinity of $10 per hour (less than $21,000 per year). You'll spend the first year or so mounting tires, washing bikes... when the shop owner sees you don't fuck that up too badly, they'll "promote" you to oil changes and simple stuff like new-bike prep. Forget about getting into engine building or anything like that for at least 4-5 years, until you've proven that you can do your work in a manner that is profitable for the dealership (not only do you have to be good at what you do, you need to be able to complete the job in LESS than "book time"). Even with extensive experience, you'll be lucky to see $17-18 per hour.

Here's the kicker: You can offer yourself as an "apprentice" at a local dealership... doing tire changes, washing bikes, etc. etc. all for the same $10/hour.... without shelling out beaucoup bucks for school. Eventually, as you prove yourself, you'll graduate to doing oil changes, etc. etc... sound familiar?

Starting salary for fire/paramedics is what - something like $40,000 a year? And if you get a gig like the Chicago Fire Department, you'll have enough spare time to work as many hours as you want at a bike shop - plus have enough money to actually be able to afford a bike of your own.
You have just described every blue collar job out there. I run large kitchens and it works the same way, guess what my first job was. The difference that makes it all worth it is I love what I do.

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post #14 of 19 (permalink) Old 09-19-2005, 11:35 PM
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I did the changeover.. I worked in car dealers for like 8 years, put in all my apprentice time and bought all my tools and an expensive toolbox (prolly $30K wrapped up in tools and the box) I was making $26 a book hour at a busy union Chevrolet dealership. I loved working on cars, but when you literally have to fight for your paid hours at least once a week, not to mention the politics of having a dispatcher, I would say it's not worth it. I totally got outta the business for a year and half and worked in retail sales, the pay was not nearly as good, and the stress was higher, so... I decided to try motorcycles. The stress levels in a motorcycle dealer is much lower. Really everything is a pile of bolts so I wasn't scared to work on bikes, and the side work is there to make up for the lack of pay in the dealer, but I don't think a career can be made out of it, unless you can get into a service manager position. That's what I'm gunning for now. I'm 30 and the oldest tech at the dealer I work at is 34. In the car dealer, I was the youngest. SO.. that's a bit of an indicator. They've also gone thru 12 techs at the Bike dealer in 24 months.. Auto mechanic would be a better way to go. The union dealers usually pay better than non-union. That's all for now..
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OldStyle,
I agree with KB Olsen....you might be going through a phase right now. Get the job at a MC dealer as an apprentice and work your way up. Before you spend a boat load of cash at a MC Mech. School, working at a stealership you'll see what the most knowledgeable/experienced mechs eat, how much $$$ they make, and how they're treated. Then, if you like what you see, try to get the dealership to pay for your Master Technician's Course.
On the other hand you're going to school to be an EMT???? I would stick to this!!!! You'll make more $$$ sooner and your services WILL ALWAYS be in demand (you can get a job anywhere,anytime!). The medical field has a solid future....(you won't have to worry about getting laid-off, ever!)
Both jobs are in the service field but one is in demand, the other is not........besides, you can learn to turn wrenches on your bike in your spare time.
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Im always looking for new tech's next year Im looking to hire about 5 new tech's right out of school. Like stated in the above post the pay at entry tech is low and once you get more experience it goes on per book hour.
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Damn well im still going to school for EMT basic and firescience shit. but I dont think I want to do that anymore. Maybe a stockbroker? um I was thinking about joining the army a little while ago but with all this shit going on I dont think thats a good idea.
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Do what you love. The jobs will come soon enough. I spent ten years as a motorcycle service writer. and you know what? I made little or NOTHING moneywise, but i've got great stories and fond memories. I really, really loved my job. Now, I'm doing web stuff (which wasn't even ON my radar when I was younger) and finally not living paycheck to paycheck, so don't sweat the "I need a career forever" stuff. You're still young. Stay in school though, no one likes to hire a QUITTER. Thats more important than you know.

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Now, I'm doing web stuff (which wasn't even ON my radar when I was younger)

good luck.

thats because Al Gore didn't invent the internet yet.
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