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Payment of $150 to $500 10 28.57%
Payment of $150 to $500 and a suspended license for 3 months 6 17.14%
Payment of $150 to $1000 and a suspended license for 6 months 3 8.57%
Payment of $150 to $1000, suspended license for 3 - 6 months, community work and or traffic school 8 22.86%
Payment of $150 to $2500 and jail time 8 22.86%
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post #1 of 98 (permalink) Old 11-12-2002, 12:01 PM Thread Starter
 
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The BIG court date for speeders is here!

OK. So tomorrow is our court date, for the ones who don't know... 2 others and I got caught speeding on I-90 near Rockton, IL in September, trying to make it on time to the NESBA track day. We were followed for a while by an unmarked squad car and finally clocked doing over 106mph but since we cooperated, the cop put down 104 in 65 so we would get tickets instead of getting arrested on the spot.

We're off to court tomorrow morning and it will be up to the judge to decide our fate.

Care to guess what it might be?
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It will make a difference if you have a lawyer. Did you guys hire one???

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No... we (Brian and I) were advised by a lawyer not to get a lawyer, at least NOT YET... if we need one we'll ask the judge for a continuance. We have no violations on our records so we hope they will take it easy on us.
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With no lawyer I bet, after a few plea bargains, IF the state prosecutor wants to EVEN deal with you.
Will be somewhere like 6-12 months supervision.
350 fine, 40 hours of community service and traffic school.
ans thats if you didnt have any tickets withien the last year.
and god forbid if you are on supervision right now?

i hope you guys don't get nailed with that



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Then my vote stands. I hope they go easy on you guys, but I hate getting busted in other states cause they like to throw the book at you cause your perceived as an outsider invading their territory.

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in that case your going to go to court, judge will see no lawyer, and try to NAIL you with the statue ruling, (which means the whole book) from there he will ask if you wish to continue...and i would ask, what his ruling is, and if you start to pucker your ass...then ask for a continuance, and get a lawyer



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No... we (Brian and I) were advised by a lawyer not to get a lawyer, at least NOT YET... if we need one we'll ask the judge for a continuance. We have no violations on our records so we hope they will take it easy on us.
You're going in front of a judge for triple digit speed with no lawyer?

If you're going to plead guilty, be sure you plea with the provision you are expecting (i.e. guilty with supervision). If the judge accepts your guilty plea, you will likely not be able to change it or ask for a continuance because you don't like the results.

Personally, I think going to court on this with no lawyer is a REALLY BAD idea! Good luck!

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Also, if you get public service, you may have to go to their jurisdiction to complete it.

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in that case your going to go to court, judge will see no lawyer, and try to NAIL you with the statue ruling, (which means the whole book) from there he will ask if you wish to continue...and i would ask, what his ruling is, and if you start to pucker your ass...then ask for a continuance, and get a lawyer

When I was 16 I got a ticket for 40mph in a 20mph. The judge fined me $500, put me on 6mo's supervision and made me write a 500 word essay with a bibliography on safety and speeding. He then made me come back when my supervision was up and present the essay to him infront of the court. He then proceded to tell my mother how she failed as a parent and was a discrace to parenthood. Man did my parents give it to me for that one. My point is that was 11 years ago, fines and punishments can be stiffer now, but I hope you guys have a nice judge.

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I would recommend a lawyer also. If nothing else, I don't think it would hurt. I also don't see them giving you jail time or community service for something like speeding. I don't know, so I could be wrong too.
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Don't forget guys this is RECKLESS driving, class b misdermenour(sp?) in traffic court, kinda like DUI, hit and run, etc.



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Does anyone else find the 106mph extremely ironic?

....Anna never went that fast on the track she was riding to.
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i hope brian dont go to jail not even for 6 hours, he sure does have a purtty mouth and would make a nice prision bitch



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I would recommend a lawyer also. If nothing else, I don't think it would hurt.
9 out of 10 times the judge is going to see no lawyer and assume you don't take this seriously. Then he will feel the need to make an impression (example).

However, I did see a judge ask a guy repeatedly if he wished to get an attorney and if he understood the maximum penalty, and finally STRONGLY suggested he reconsider showing up with an attorney. The guy changed his plea and "asked" for a continuance. The judge basically said he was going to throw the book at him (in so many words).

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Come on.....

It's not that bad. Both have good driving records and I think we can all agree that, if they were speeding in a car, the penalty would be greater.
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Come on.....

It's not that bad. Both have good driving records and I think we can all agree that, if they were speeding in a car, the penalty would be greater.

I don't think so. I know plenty guys that lost there license first time for 30+ (wreckless drinving) in a car..

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Come on.....

It's not that bad. Both have good driving records and I think we can all agree that, if they were speeding in a car, the penalty would be greater.
I guess we'll know soon enough!

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I guess we'll know soon enough!
Just like any other ticket it's going to depend on the judge. He's got plenty of options. Let's hope for the best.

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Thought I'd throw in my $.02 for what it's worth... I don't have a whole lot of experience with motorcycle traffic court but have seen a bunch of my buddies get nailed for some pretty stupid stuff in their cars...

I can't help but think about those I've known that have gotten DUI's (seemingly a worse offense) and had gotten off with a mere fine and a weekend alcohol abuse course. Nowadays license suspension is mandatory in some states... but if they can get off from something like that with a slap on the wrist I would think a speeding ticket might be a little easier.

It all depends on what they are charging you with. If they're trying to get you for reckless operation of a motor vehicle, sometimes the fines can be a little higher and they'll put your licesnse on probation (I guess it's called supervision here in Illinois)... if I were y'all I would make sure I dressed up all fancy like (break out that suit, baby), was very professional yet apologetic in front of the judge... and knew what I was talking about before I went in. The fact that you talked to a lawyer helps... you just don't wanna end up screwing yourself because of your lack of knowledge of the laws.

GOOD LUCK and godspeed... let's hope y'all just get a few fines and a stern talking to from the judge!!
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sorry meggy the punishment will be harder cause they are on bikes.

also too i havent had a ticket since 1994 and when i got nailed in 2001 12/21
for i think it was like 98 in a 45...it took my lawyer like 3 times before there was something decent.

they 1st wanted 1 yr suspension and 500.00 fine

then they said, 350.00 1 year supervision, 40 hours community serivce, traffic school

then we agree on 1yr supervision, 350.00 fine, i think it was
but then the judge and me startes acting like smartass;s and he threw in 4 hours of traffic school

all and all i think it costed me like around a grand and my supervision is over this 12/21/02

just like the judge said...i guess i havent been caught yet



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Well you guys could get lucky yet. Like I said it all depends on the judge.

You guys talked to a lawyer already. Hopefully he had passed the BAR in WI and told you guys exactly what to do.

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i thought this was outside of rockford?



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i thought this was outside of rockford?
I thought Brian told me it was in Wisconsin.

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Well you guys could get lucky yet. Like I said it all depends on the judge.

You guys talked to a lawyer already. Hopefully he had passed the BAR in WI and told you guys exactly what to do.
Umm, didn't this happen in Illinois?

Also, these are 'city slickers' out in essentially a rural area.

I can't comment on this stuff since the only time I've been to court is jury duty.

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I thought Brian told me it was in Wisconsin.
Anna wrote in her original post that it was Rockton, IL
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Anna wrote in her original post that it was Rockton, IL
My bad. She did. hmmmmmmmmm I don't understand why Brian and I had the conversation about WI lawyers then.


Regardless in that area, be it IL or not, we are outsiders

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Come on.....

It's not that bad. Both have good driving records and I think we can all agree that, if they were speeding in a car, the penalty would be greater.
Let's just hope the 4-5 times they've been pulled over aren't somehow flagged on their record. Not sure if the cops can do that, or anything similar.

GL you guys! Hope it all goes ok!
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Good luck. I wouldn't even CONSIDER going to court for this without a lawyer.

I'll recommend my lawyer, tho I don't know if he works in that county that Rockton is in.

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Something to think about: A few years ago I got a DUI back in Minnesota when I lived there, I called the prosecuter up myself and worked out a deal with him to reduce the ticket to a reckless driving. Saved myself alot of cash on the front and back end, no lawyer and my insurance didn't go up all that much.
This is what I would do if I was you:
Get a continuance now, make up some excuse so you don't have to go tommorrow
Find out what the "normal" fine/suspension/community service would be
Find out who the prosecuter is
Give him a low ball offer, remind him of any and all clean records, behavior after being pulled over etc.
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