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Why I lost the promotion (RANT)

(The title should read, "drunken cranky rant," but there's not enough room.)

I put in an application this morning for a transfer and promotion out of my department. The boss shot it down about an hour later, with a copy to his boss, saying that I was a "high value" employee and that he couldn't approve the thing.

Then, about ten minutes before I leave work this afternoon, he calls me in and closes the door, and basically repeats what he told me before: some line of BS about how I'm a high-value employee, and so it's really important that I stay on where I'm at for that reason. Of course, there's no money involved with being a high-value employee, but I suppose we can't have everything, now, can we?

Then he goes on to make clear that he and his fellow managerial minions are really just afraid that their department is going to get picked clean in the next reorganization, which is coming up in a couple of months, and left with all the slackers. So, as a result, they're putting a lockdown on all the not-slackers so they don't lose them.

That's a kick in the teeth, no? I mean, you spend all your time trying to do your job, and then some, you pick up for the slackers, and what do they do but put your career on a dead-end street. And on top of all that, you get a "B" performance rating for the trouble.

So, since I don't want this to be all rant, I guess I should ask the question. Would it be better for me to dump a couple gallons of that self-expanding foam stuff into my boss's office and let it do its thing, or should I just put a rat in his desk?

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foam... harder to clean.

Sorry bro.. thats what I call BULL SHHEEET

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Play the cards and make him sweat. If you are a high value employee than you deserve more..
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foam... harder to clean.
Maybe so, but a rat has more symbolism.

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Take a day off - make sure it gets around that you're interviewing elsewhere. Scare them a bit. I'd also not do something so drastic yet. Try hiding a bag of shit somewhere in his office, behind a file cabinet, etc...
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Take it with a grain of salt.

There are many ways to squeeze bigger bang for the buck from the employee. Telling stories like how "valueble", "irreplaceable","appreciated","unique" you are is an example. Motivate is what the management is trained to do. Well , that is in addition to making sure that there are no "irreplaceables" in the team

Everybody is equal, everybody works on their piece. And that is ok. My point though is : keep your goals in mind and know your market value.
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go back in and put in for a raise, since they dont want to let you go to another dept for the fear of loosing someone they need in theres, which denys you a pay increase.

so put in for a pay increase.

now is the time.

from the sounds of it, they gonna be chopping some heads, if yours isnt one of them then give me more money, also start looking for other business to work.

back yourself up IF ya fall off that horse.
and if you dont fall hopefully you just get a pay increase.

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"high value" is pure bs. I'd go with the "take a day off, make like you are interviewing" route, but actually interview. They'll pony up the cash if they really need you. I've been through 2 reorgs..trust me, it's best not to be around. Either way, you are screwed. Update your resume, shop it to decent headhunters. Let them know your goals and start looking at the various career websites.

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If they take your stapler and don't return it or if they move your office to storage room B, take it as a hint to find a new job.

Kick that shit to the curb, Andrew. Try to find a new job. Don't be a "barnacle" sticking around while the ship is going under.

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one reason i hate the corporate world.


High value employee means, you know what your doing. Therefore, if you got your promotion. The managers would have to do more work because the dumber employees would be screwing things up all the time.


Kiss ass to the CEO not your own boss, because hes looking to get promoted.
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Sounds like they want you to take a promotion and pay raise outside the company.
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"high value" is pure bs. I'd go with the "take a day off, make like you are interviewing" route, but actually interview. They'll pony up the cash if they really need you. I've been through 2 reorgs..trust me, it's best not to be around. Either way, you are screwed. Update your resume, shop it to decent headhunters. Let them know your goals and start looking at the various career websites.
Well, frankly, my goal is to help put Hopkins on the podium next year, but somehow I don't think there's any way they're going to help me achieve that.

The reorg does not faze me one bit--I've been through three already, so I know what to expect. They reorganize quite a lot over there, about once every 18-24 months on average. Seeing as how it's a pretty low-turnover operation, they are just a way of life for everyone in the company. My coworkers and I are just too far down in the structure to be affected much by them.

Believe it or not, I'm not worried about getting a bigger paycheck. The job I was requesting would have had a potential for more money, it's true, but I would have gone in at close to my current pay level. It's not a bad level to be at, either: I'm still here, still riding, so I can't complain about that.

But there's another bit to it. For whatever reason, this particular "high-value employee" has been chained to desk work for the last eight months, doing a lot of administrative work and other non-jobs. That work sucks. The pay's the same per hour, but the satisfaction, the psychological paycheck, is just about nil. I don't mind working in an office, which surely does have its advantages about 2/3 of the year, but just sitting around and writing up procedures to regulate how employees should stir their morning coffee just isn't going to cut it.

I just wish there was more employment in my field around here. About all there is is my current employer, and the contractor to my employer. Anything else would involve moving pretty far away, and that would mean pulling up a lot more roots (including this one that I'm writing on right now) than it's worth right now.

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Start looking for another job, because after a conversation like that you basically aren't going to work all that hard anymore. Try as you may, your mind will make the connection between "hard work" and "no promotion."
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I think my work would start slowing down dramaticly right about now. remember they only promote the dumbass's cause its the easyiest way to get rid of them and they wopnt get HR complaints filesd against them for that. We all know this istrue , look how many people are in upper management and have no clue what they are doing.




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Dude...... It's bullshit.

Schedule a meeting with your boss to discuss your career.

Have a defined goal for where you want to be / what you want to acomplish in the next 12 Months, the next 36 Months.

Discuss how your day to day activities are preparing you for this path.

Consider this ... What is your managers plan to help you acomplish this plan ?

Consider this... If he cannot articulate his plan for you or will not collaborate with you on the plan
and commit to interim goals HE DOESN"T HAVE A PLAN FOR YOU BEYOND WHAT YOU ARE DOING
and his "valuable employee" talk is BULLSHIT.

He tells you you are valuable to placate you and keep you doing what you are doing.

If he believes that you can grow, he will work on the plan with you.... the goals along the way
will be real, measurable and time-bound.... if you do X you get Y at N time.

If not, you have two choices ..... live with the gig knowing they do not view you as advanceable
or start looking for a new gig that meets your personal 12 and 36 Month goals.

FWIW .... more money is important ..... However, it's not a goal, it's a by=product of success.

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I think my work would start slowing down dramaticly right about now. remember they only promote the dumbass's cause its the easyiest way to get rid of them and they wopnt get HR complaints filesd against them for that. We all know this istrue , look how many people are in upper management and have no clue what they are doing.
+1. This is so true.

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Why not go another level above your boss and see what they think?
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Why not go another level above your boss and see what they think?
Morrand,

I was thinking of that too, although it could backfire if your boss is one of those people who becomes a poster child for Midol when someone does an end run around him/her.

Another option would be to use your review to do what BLARNEY suggested, which would be to discuss your carreer objectives. Often that is one of the topics covered in the annual review anyway, so simply take advantage of an existing process whereever you can.

But you know your company environment and office politics the best.

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