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I don't know how many of you know this place, The sign was a picture of a Dragster, It was on Irving park just west of California. Family owned and operated for as long as I can remember. (has to be 30 years)

You could buy your car race stuff / perf parts, Nitrous setups/fillup, machine work etc.
They did the machine work for me on a few race motors waaaaay back when

I stopped at my buddies garage, and he said they closed Friday.

I was kind of sad to see it go, They got just about all my paychecks through my Drag racing years.

I'm sure they will put up a starbucks or another Bagel store there.

Where are there any more Race /Machine shops on the North side of Chicago ?


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What about Chevy Shop just south of addison on Cicero?
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What about Chevy Shop just south of addison on Cicero?
Went by it last week- still there.

How long though, who knows. I wonder if anyone under 35 even knows what a small block Chevy is. Import 4 cylinder scene and all...
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Went by it last week- still there.

How long though, who knows. I wonder if anyone under 35 even knows what a small block Chevy is. Import 4 cylinder scene and all...

oh oh i do. And that import scene is causing 30,000 american workers to lose their jobs.
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I'm sure they will put up a starbucks or another Bagel store there.
Thank God!!! we need one on every block ya know




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oh oh i do. And that import scene is causing 30,000 american workers to lose their jobs.
No, that would be piss poor managment that casued that.




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oh oh i do. And that import scene is causing 30,000 american workers to lose their jobs.
piss poor management....AND american unions screwing themselves over...union reps getting overpaid...joureymen asking for raises all the damn time...sorry...but if 25 bucks an hour is not enough for you people...THEN CHANGE JOBS...i bust my ass doing non union jobs and pulling cable...but took me YEARS to get to my payrate now...not 4 or 5 years as union...and i probably KNOW MORE then union telcom people...its not the average americans fault that union people are living beyond thier means...thats why it called overtime...learn to be where you are needed most people....making $ or at home with the family...you can not have the best of both worlds...cause i sure as hell dont...

...plus my gf was with me saying "omg slow down, slow down" and I was thinking "Lose annoying squalk box in passenger seat, afford more mods and have less weight in the car and on the back of the bike"...so i dumped her and I'm single again as usual...HERE KITTY KITTY!!!
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so losing sales has nothing to do with it?

Or companies outsourcing jobs to 3rd world countries?
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Went by it last week- still there.

How long though, who knows. I wonder if anyone under 35 even knows what a small block Chevy is. Import 4 cylinder scene and all...

some of us still do. I had a caddy 472, buick 455, a olds 350, ford 351M.
Nothing compaires to cubic inches, (at least when you're riding on 4 wheels)

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so losing sales has nothing to do with it?

Or companies outsourcing jobs to 3rd world countries?
those things are not a cause, but a symptom of what I and thunderstruck said. They brought in on themselves.




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those things are not a cause, but a symptom of what I and thunderstruck said. They brought in on themselves.

how about the companies that dont have bad management. But go out of business because they cant compete with asian products that are cheaper in cost?
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how about the companies that dont have bad management. But go out of business because they cant compete with asian products that are cheaper in cost?
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Fastener mfg. is all that way. Chicago / Cleavland / Detriot used to produce 75% of all fasteners for the world, (1970's). Now we only do specials. Can't compete with oversees labor rates for standard parts. Their quality is now as good, or better than ours

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hijack alert!!

i love when fierospeedster complains about people not buying american yet owns a japanese motorcycle. do what I say, not what I do!

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i love when fierospeedster complains about people not buying american yet owns a japanese motorcycle. do what I say, not what I do!

it's used. So i didn't give any money to the japanese country. And i had to rebuild the entire thing which makes it american.
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it's used. So i didn't give any money to the japanese country. And i had to rebuild the entire thing which makes it american.
oh i see, we're smoking crack again. sweet. I bought my car used too(honda civic), so I'm not hurting the US workers or car industry at all either.





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Fastener mfg. is all that way. Chicago / Cleavland / Detriot used to produce 75% of all fasteners for the world, (1970's). Now we only do specials. Can't compete with oversees labor rates for standard parts. Their quality is now as good, or better than ours
That is truly a shame. I hate to see that happen, but unfortunatly its business. Business is not in the charity business and will not sacrifice thier bottom line, after all thats what they are there for, to make a profit. Unfortunatly labor costs have gone up too much here and with it has the cost of the economy and goods. Now we have painted ourself into the preverbial corner and workers will suffer for it. the only solution I see is a radical shift in the economy where prices for goods drop dramatically and so do wages so everything go's down in proportion. but I dont see this happening anytime soon, in fact just the opposite, goods will go up while pay go's down.




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oh i see, we're smoking crack again. sweet. I bought my car used too(honda civic), so I'm not hurting the US workers or car industry at all either.




Well in all honesty buying honda is supporting the american economy since they are built here and employ american iron workers, labors, truck drivers, railroad employees, salesman, technicians, and gobs of support staff to build and sell those cars here. Even my old valkyrie was built here. I used to love showing the made in america stamp to harley guys when they bitched at me




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Example?
2X+7=17
-7 2X+7=17 -7
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2X /2 = 10 /2
X=5


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That is truly a shame. I hate to see that happen, but unfortunatly its business. Business is not in the charity business and will not sacrifice thier bottom line, after all thats what they are there for, to make a profit. Unfortunatly labor costs have gone up too much here and with it has the cost of the economy and goods. Now we have painted ourself into the preverbial corner and workers will suffer for it. the only solution I see is a radical shift in the economy where prices for goods drop dramatically and so do wages so everything go's down in proportion. but I dont see this happening anytime soon, in fact just the opposite, goods will go up while pay go's down.

The way I see it, all of the overseas countries are at the same place this country was 100 years ago. That was about when we started successful, efficent mass production. Labor was cheap for us back then too. It's just the world catching up to us and evening out. It's got it's shitty parts and good part. It is just business

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It was too expensive to make them here in this country. Thats exactly what I'm talking about. the manufacturing workforce through thier union reps have priced themselves out of jobs. If wages were lower he could have afforded to make them here, of course I se that people need to make a living, but we are chasing our perverbial tails tring to lower that cost when costs for good and services are going up due to higher costs from oil increases and high wages in other areas such as the shipping industy.




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I'm not getting into unions. I don't know a whole lot about em and lots of people have super strong opinions about em. Both for and against

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I'm not getting into unions. I don't know a whole lot about em and lots of people have super strong opinions about em. Both for and against
Yes they do, I have opinions both four and against, and its a very difficult topic that is probably better for a different thread. come to think of it i think weve already had that one.




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Yes they do, I have opinions both four and against, and its a very difficult topic that is probably better for a different thread. come to think of it i think weve already had that one.

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It was too expensive to make them here in this country. Thats exactly what I'm talking about. the manufacturing workforce through thier union reps have priced themselves out of jobs. If wages were lower he could have afforded to make them here, of course I se that people need to make a living, but we are chasing our perverbial tails tring to lower that cost when costs for good and services are going up due to higher costs from oil increases and high wages in other areas such as the shipping industy.
they are not really too expensive. He was selling lifts at the same cost as everyone else n for years. I dont know how long backyard buddy will last.

During the last 3? years, he was selling his lifts 500 dollars cheaper. I do know he was backordered last year.


The lifts stayed the same price for the last 10 years almost except recently when he started dropping the price. So you cant really say, building them got expensive.

How do u compete when they are selling chinese lifts for half cost. And people buying a cheaper product?
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How do u compete when they are selling chinese lifts for half cost. And people buying a cheaper product?
Thats my point exactly, you cant compete in that market. and if you cant compete the only option is to change your market and do something different or close the doors.




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