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know of a place that shaves tires? I had the car lowered and the tech that did the alignment f'd something up, so now the r/f tire is wearing out unevenly, causing the car to pull to the right. In order to correct this, i need to shave ALL 4 tires so they all match, so, anyone have any ideas of places that doe this? Only place i know if Tirerack, but you have to ship the wheels out to them.......Thx

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rotate them, and do one serious burnout. oh and get your alignment fixed.




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rotate them, and do one serious burnout. oh and get your alignment fixed.
Welp, i went to NTB (Place where i had it aligned in the 1st place) and they checked the alignment and said it was good, i checked it myself so he couldn't have bs'd me. The only solution that this lovely tech thought of was to swap the 2 front tires, which of course did not fix the issue, so now, the car pulls to the left, and on top of that, they fugged something else up causing my traction control and ABS to turn off! WTF!!!!! Anyhoes, im getting a new set of wheels and tires by next month, but i will still be using these wheels/tires during winter. Maynard, i've never heard of tire shaving also, until i bought an Audi. For some odd reason, the Quattro system will get messed up if the tires are uneven, for instance, say you blow a tire, you can't just replace that one, you MUST either get 4 NEW tires or have them ALL shaved to the same tread amount.

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fooked up brakes can make it pull too. Could be something with the ABS or traction control making one or more spot grabby. Ask the resident gear head Mopar

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For some odd reason, the Quattro system will get messed up if the tires are uneven, for instance, say you blow a tire, you can't just replace that one, you MUST either get 4 NEW tires or have them ALL shaved to the same tread amount.
WTF kind of messed up AWD system is that! What if the road is uneven? or your tire pressure is even?

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fooked up brakes can make it pull too. Could be something with the ABS or traction control making one or more spot grabby. Ask the resident gear head Mopar
But wouldn't the pulling ONLY happen when applying the brakes? IF so, that doesn't happen, only when accelerating.

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WTF kind of messed up AWD system is that! What if the road is uneven? or your tire pressure is even?
That my friend, has yet to be answered. But i check my TP all the time so that's no issue...

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One could be dragging to much on the rotor even when your not on the brakes. But if it only happens when your accelerating then it probally not the brakes. But I really could be just talking out of my ass. I gave up working on my cars two years ago and bought something new

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WTF kind of messed up AWD system is that! What if the road is uneven? or your tire pressure is even?
I'm betting that Audi's AWD system is using the wheel speed sensors to detect a loss of traction most companies do). If so, and if one or more tires are underinflated or unevenly worn those tires will be rotating at different speeds, thus confusing the system even when going in a straight line, and causing false corrections to be made by the control units involved.

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I'm betting that Audi's AWD system is using the wheel speed sensors to detect a loss of traction most companies do). If so, and if one or more tires are underinflated or unevenly worn those tires will be rotating at different speeds, thus confusing the system even when going in a straight line, and causing false corrections to be made by the control units involved.
Yeah, what ^ he said. Any ideas on where i can go Nick?

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Nikyfan, that makes sense. I will stick with my trusty old 2WD Camry with traction control and ABS. If I want to go 4Wheeling, I will just take out my uncle's 4Runner.

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A brake can drag under acceleration, if one or more of the pistons in the caliper are siezed in the caliper bore, limiting the travel of the pads.
Possibly debris in the caliper bore, or even between the pad and rotor?
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A brake can drag under acceleration, if one or more of the pistons in the caliper are siezed in the caliper bore, limiting the travel of the pads.
Possibly debris in the caliper bore, or even between the pad and rotor?
But wouldn't there be marks on the rotor? I'll check it out and get back to you.

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That my friend, has yet to be answered. But i check my TP all the time so that's no issue...
Is most likely has to do with differing overall circumferences in the wheel/tire combination.

If the Quattro system uses a viscous-type center coupling (differential) and any of the wheels spin at a different speed than the other 3, that could be translated into a very small amount of slip condition. This could cause the viscous-fluid to began to heat and create a partial locking-up situation under normal driving. That's bad....mmkay.

Many OE Audi tires are expensive and rare models, not available from aftermarket sources. Because of what I explained above, 4 new tires would need to be purchased since a matching one can't be found easily for the 3 originals.

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Get one of those new Mach 15 and some Gillette shaving gel. With 300 blades, that razor will make short work of those uneven tires.

How about the Audi dealership? If the AWD systems behaves that way, I imagine they do this quite often and can shave those tires in house.

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you just want to shave your tires to make it ricer fast.

Look up some performace shops in the paper. Majority of the shops dont have the equipment unless they run it on their wheel balancer. But there isn't a real way to make it even on those.

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anyhow. Did he perform any alignment? Because once you lower a car, the alignment will change. So did he readjust it to the new ride height?


What the two people said about the ABS system with the wheel sensor and viscious coupling is true.

Something generic to try is getting a tape measure and measure the diameter. Add air pressure to get all the tires the same diameter. And get some driving to wear the tires even again.
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What model Audi do you have? I have used rims and tires I might be willing to sell. I also have a brand new tire and rim that I'll probably never use. Let me know if you are interested.
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What model Audi do you have? I have used rims and tires I might be willing to sell. I also have a brand new tire and rim that I'll probably never use. Let me know if you are interested.
01 A6 4.2. I have new wheels and tires on their way as we speak, but i will be using the stockers for winter set up. I assume you have an S4? If so, do you have a VAG com? Wanna help me out and find out what's causing the ESP and ABS to go off? Also, if i brought this to Audi, what consists of alignment? Toe, camber, what else? Cause NTB states that they can only adjust the toe angle, not the camber....

WSE, . As for Audi doing it, i wanted to check other places first, cause if i bring it to audi they find out i have aftermarket springs, my suspension warranty is kaput.

OSN, a week after installing the springs i had the alignment. Everything was well, but they did tell me that the inner area of the tire is wearing out unevenly. After awhile it just started steering to the right, so i brought it back to them again yesterday, but the tech said that everything was aligned, but since the car is lowered i need to adjust the camber. Only problem is, i don't think they make camber correction kits. (i've yet to do research, but i have NOT heard of anyone having problems when lowering the car) It is kinda odd that only the f/r tire is wearing out unevenly, all the others tires are fine. I do remember that he first tech that aligned the car had a problem with the front/right wheel, saying that the bolts were frozen stuck and was a bitch to break loose, so possible, this SOB fugged something up!! THE PLOT THICKENS! Damn it man, i've spent more time fixing this thing than driving it!

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Did some more research, came up with the tires being faulty. Apparently, Continentals (tires the car came with) are known to have the belts under the rubber shift, thus causing the tire to pull. Pulling=abnormal wear on tire. Case closed, solution, waiting for new tires and wheels to come.

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WTF kind of messed up AWD system is that! What if the road is uneven? or your tire pressure is even?
It's actually related to the differentials in awd cars or trucks. more than + or - 5% of any of the other tires and you can break the diff, because one of the wheels will be traveling more or less for each rotation.

I'm not familiar with audis so I don't know exactly how they're powered, but I know this is how it works in syclones and typhoons.
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