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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 11-28-2002, 09:17 PM Thread Starter
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Hmmm, might be switching race series next year.

Found something that tickles my fancy. So if things go right, bikes are bye bye. Looking at something that is faster, more involved and more technical than motorcycle racing. Just the initial outlay is gonna be pricey since I have to get new firesuit, helmet, gloves, boots, trailer and a storage garage along with some other misc equip.


Heres the car I found.

1997 Van Diemen RF97/2 Formula Continental
Won Pro-Series Championship in '97

Two races on fresh Quicksilver rebuilt by Bradford Precision Engineering. New pistons, Cosworth rods, Hi-Tech exhaust. Dyno info. available.

Three sets of OZ magnesium wheels, one with mounted rain tires.

Four sets of gears.

Pi System 2 dash & data logger w/ beacon & Windows software. Sensors for wheel speed, RPM, oil & water temps., oil pressure, lap times, track mapping.

Penske triples - one race since rebuild.

Cockpit adjustable front ARB & brake bias.

Recently upgraded throttle control cable & shift linkage Apex joints.

Spare front & rear wings.

Spare pushrods.

Spare drive shafts.

Aluminum floor pan.

This is a clean, well maintained, competitive, reliable car. Additional photos available upon request. Finished second in Colorado Regional Championship this year.

$25,000.00

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Pic of it naked.D

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Basically a newer version of what I used to race from 87-89.

Which was also a Van Diemem chassis (The 88 RF88 I drove in 1988 is pictured below).

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might as well , never saw you hauling any kind of ass on a bike anyway

just kidding, but man isnt that sport like really some $$$$$$?



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A friend of mine raced cars and said the most fun he had was racing in the rain with a car.

When I worked with Dale Quarterley, I asked him which was more fun. He said, "Cars...but bikes are more exhilarating."

More technical? In a way. Most things are pretty much known about cars. A good driver in a good car will do well. A bad driver in a good car will do better.

Motorcycles? It is still a black art where there are somethings that are just not known. So many variables at play, and a rider's style can affect the way it all works. So, give a good rider a good bike. Things work well, give a better rider a bike that might not be as good, the better rider might prevail.

If you're gonna race the car, make sure everyone knows that you race motorcycles or something. They'll stay away from bike guys. "They're so agressive..."

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Anything to keep Kimmy in your sights huh

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If you're gonna race the car, make sure everyone knows that you race motorcycles or something. They'll stay away from bike guys. "They're so agressive..."

Well in the 2 yrs I raced them, I wrecked 5 of them. I even flipped one upside down through a gravel trap.D Hell I didnt need to tell people I raced bikes so they'd stay away from me. Most were BEHIND me anyways. They always told me you cant rub wheels on open wheelers. I dunno why.


Well Ken I figured out it would cost me about $60K total just to get back into it not including fuel, entry fees, spares and camping. So unless I win a lottery quick, gonna be a while.


BTW Kim, your TLR vs me in a FC car, you'd really lose bad.And I aint kiddin either. The guys that run FC's at BHF are running :05 to :06's when they were there before our trackday.D.

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Cars just seem so cost restrictive. $60k just to get started. EEK!!!

Motorcycles definitely win the $$$/smile ratio.

Although I imagine there's nothing quite like the feeling of a open wheel car pulling big time lateral G's through a corner at 100+ mph.... but feeling the ground rush on a bike in the same corner.. or the rush after you ride out a near highside.

a bike and a rider seem like more of a symbiotic relationship. You will always be a passenger to some degree in a car, but you are part of the machine on a bike.
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a bike and a rider seem like more of a symbiotic relationship. You will always be a passenger to some degree in a car, but you are part of the machine on a bike.
I always thought the car was so sterile. I mean, you're in the car, you don't change the combined center of gravity when you move. If it spins out, no problem.

Bike...you can effectively change the combined center of gravity. You are just a passenger, a rider. You make the bike angry, it will spit you off. The rider is a huge limiting factor on how fast the combination will go.

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post #11 of 14 (permalink) Old 12-01-2002, 11:42 PM
 
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i am an ebay junkie..i seen a racing outfit in ebay, trailer and all, but i dont reemmber where i seen it or how much..i think i was looking in kit cars....take a browse, youd be suprised what youll find....and good luck!

personally, i think youll miss racing your bike....i dont think youll get the same adrenaline rush in a cage, even one like that....
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personally, i think youll miss racing your bike....i dont think youll get the same adrenaline rush in a cage, even one like that....

Actually the rush of sliding upside down through a gravel trap is exhilirating.

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That's a fairly serious FC. Not bad for a Lima (pinto) motor. The cars that ran 1:08's at BFR the weekend b4 the CLSB track day were Formula Atlantics, $75k monoquoqe chassis, 1.6L twin cam toyota motors. I *think* FC track record is currently around 1:11-12, but that's a National competitve driver/car combo.

A Club Formula Ford, older chassis FF, 1.6L Cortina motor, spec tire can run mid teens at BFR, and cost around what most MC racers spend (maybe less).

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