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OK I am ready to pop the question "marriage"

Well since my divorce I swore that I would never get married. Well I guess I was wrong. I am ready to pop the question soon (within the next 6 months) and I need to find an engagement ring. I remember a while back someone bought one from www.bluenile.com. I want to get the most for my money and want a quailty ring. I am looking for a solitare round diamond in a Platinum setting, or possibly a three diamond engangement ring if the price is right. Is there anywhere else that someone recomends local like a friend or uncle that can to me a solid or else another website like Blue Nile.


Part 2 of the question.......

I know a liitle to be dangerous about clarity and flaws of a diamond. What do you guys recommend quality wise. I am looking anywhere between one and 2 carats. She is a simple girl and is petite so she has small fingers so that is a plus for me LOL. Some of you guys here have meet me GF so you know who she is please keep this on the down low and keep it here on the board. Thanks
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I would say one of the best things you can do so you don't get screwed is make sure it's certified(EGL or GIU). That way you can compare apples to apples in looking for the stone. You don't have to get the main diamond at the same place you find the ring. Go down to the Diamond district and do some shopping.




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I got the one for my wife at New York Jewlers on State next to the diamond mart.

For the gods sake buy a stone seperate from the setting.

NY did a custom setting we designed ourselves.
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I would get a high quality D-E color 1 carat diamond over a good quality G-H 1.5-2 carat diamond. They should be about the same cost too. I also like the marquis cut/shape.

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I hear alot of people say buy the stone seperate from the setting. Why is this do you get a better deal??? Do you buy the diamond at one store and the setting at another???
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I hear alot of people say buy the stone seperate from the setting. Why is this do you get a better deal??? Do you buy the diamond at one store and the setting at another???
find a dealer that sells loose stones and does settings as well. then have them make exactly what you want with the stone you choose. Make appointments with a few jewelers at 5 S. Wabash and start figuring out what you like, what the market is like, and who has the best prices.

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You can go elsewhere.most places that sell the stones will have settings for them
or they will make you a custom setting.

Yes you do get a better deal because you can put the money into the stone which is where the value is at.
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Like anything else, certification adds significantly to the cost...if you have a respected/trusted local jeweler you will get a lot more diamond for your money getting an uncertified stone. If buying online, definitely get a certified stone.

My wife also has small hands...we went with with just over a carat and E color. IMO color is the most important quality of a diamond. Experts will tell you it's also the biggest factor in cost/value. Im not a big fan of big flashy rocks that look yellow when compared to a quality stone.

What really makes the ring is the setting IMO. We went with a custom setting with baugettes(sp) because she did not like how most were set vertically.

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I agree you will pay more for the cert, but unless you know or really trust someone, I would do it. Otherwise it is Joe Smo at the store telling you what he thinks the color and clairty are..... and he has a vested interest in selling you the cheapest diamond for the highest price..

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I can take you to S A Peck for which you have to be a member, but there stones are un-set and laid out on a black velet mat.

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Well since my divorce I swore that I would never get married. Well I guess I was wrong. I am ready to pop the question soon (within the next 6 months) and I need to find an engagement ring. I remember a while back someone bought one from www.bluenile.com. I want to get the most for my money and want a quailty ring. I am looking for a solitare round diamond in a Platinum setting, or possibly a three diamond engangement ring if the price is right. Is there anywhere else that someone recomends local like a friend or uncle that can to me a solid or else another website like Blue Nile.


Part 2 of the question.......

I know a liitle to be dangerous about clarity and flaws of a diamond. What do you guys recommend quality wise. I am looking anywhere between one and 2 carats. She is a simple girl and is petite so she has small fingers so that is a plus for me LOL. Some of you guys here have meet me GF so you know who she is please keep this on the down low and keep it here on the board. Thanks
You Inpired me to register!!!! Ill post another thread in the gernal section. I just proposed a few days ago and looked for a rign for about three months. First of all you are looking for way too broad of a spectrum. Narrow it down as far as size goes. There is a huge jump in price once you go over 1.5 and there is another big jump after about 1.8. Speand your money wisely, I stayed at 1.4 and realy wnet after the sparke and the shine. A freind gave her girl a GIANT three carat ring and it looks like crap next to mine. The big one is nice when there is nothing to compare it to, but next to mine it looks like a dull old yellow glass.

Send me a pm or Email and I will give you the name of the guy I bought m ine from. He saved me a ton of money. Almost enough for a new Duc
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Head to jewelers row on Wabash, expect to see so many damn diamonds you'll want to crush your eyes... but when you're ready, you'll be fully educated and will know the exact diamond you want... and the price for that diamond. Don't feel bad saying something like 'I want your best price, if it's still the best price 2 hours from now, I'll be back to buy it'.

I know when I bought my wife's ring, I was looking at 1 ct, ended up with a 0.85 ct. As it turns out, it's still almost too big to look right on her hand. I decided on the .85 when I couldn't tell which was larger... .85 or 1.01 when they were 8 inches apart.

Bigger doesn't always mean it'll look good. Go for the one that accentuates her beauty, not one that makes her beautiful.
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I agree you will pay more for the cert, but unless you know or really trust someone, I would do it. Otherwise it is Joe Smo at the store telling you what he thinks the color and clairty are..... and he has a vested interest in selling you the cheapest diamond for the highest price..

I tell you, it's worse than buying a used car sometimes
NO WAY you always go with a certified stone. ALWAYS. You need it for insurance as well.
As far as the mouning. I dont think it that big of a deal. If they have what your looking for go for it.

Just keep in mind the designer brand rings are about twice as expensive, you can have anything made for a fraction
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The four C's are a big one. I'm shopping for mine right now as well....Blue Nile has alot of good reading. They will explain whats going on with each one. The other thing is that Platnium is going to be very expensive VS white gold....same look less cost. Which could equal a bigger diamond in the long run. You will know when you see it....It should scream her name. Other than that remember that she is going to wear it for a long time and it's always going to be a reminder. A good way to go for meaning is to get something engraved on the inside of the band. Just a few suggestions...If any questions I might be able to help with PM me.

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Guys I hate to sound liek a spam whore for this guy.. But he saved me ton of money. He can beat the proces for all of these sites that are being mentioned.
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NO WAY you always go with a certified stone. ALWAYS. You need it for insurance as well.
No true at all...anything is insurable with an appraisal. State Farm insures ours. That's all a certification is...an appraisal where the give their opinion on the 4c's. My jeweler as many others are licensed to perform certification/appraisal.
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I don't have any ring advice as I am a virulent bachelor but wish you all the best

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Guys I hate to sound liek a spam whore for this guy.. But he saved me ton of money. He can beat the proces for all of these sites that are being mentioned.

Well spill the beans fruitcake

Keep the advice coming guys this is great. Thanks for the phone calls and PM's esp. you Underdog (Patrick)
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A cert gives you an independent apprasial before you buy the stone. You can still get it insured for the appraised value without a cert.

The other cool thing about the cert is you get a map of your diamond in detail. This could come in useful if anyone tried to swap out your diamond during a cleaning.. Cert will give you more piece of mind about what you are getting. Just shop around for a while, you will be an expert by the time you're done.

You don't have to buy the main stone and a setting at two different stores but I would look for the main stone at a store that specializes in loose diamonds.




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I got the one for my wife at New York Jewlers on State next to the diamond mart.

For the gods sake buy a stone seperate from the setting.

NY did a custom setting we designed ourselves.
That were got my wife upgrade there.I was engage before I had bought a loose diamond. They had sold me over 15 years ago.I was shock they still had and guy kept for that long. Show me the that it was paid for

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Skip the ring and buy her a bike. If she loves it you found the right one. If she thinks you are crazy. Walk away and you got off cheap!

if you go through with this one it might be a good idea to buy her one YOU like

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Hey Good Luck Steve

I agree with most of what's been said - just to recap:

Go with COLOR over clarity. Color is easy to notice. But you usually need a magnifying glass to see the differece in clarity.

Go WITHOUT certification. You get a better price. And EVERY jeweler down on State Street gives a buy-back guarantee. You buy it, get independant appraisal, & if you are happy with your choice, you keep it. If not, return it.

Shop around, then go to STATE STREET last - ready to buy. They will have the best prices. I also used New York Jewelers.

Buy a loose diamond. You will have a better selection & better price. It is also much more difficult to check the 4Cs for a diamond that's already in the setting.

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