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Calling of a chase

Whats the top speed you have to go before IL state troopers have to call off a chase? I thought it was 140mph anyone know for sure. Maybe with some documentation?
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i just noticed i spelled off wrong in the title o well
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I think this has come up before...I'm pretty sure there's no set speed where they have to call it off. It's at the discretion of the officer to decide when it's too dangerous to continue.
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well techinically their cars can't go faster than what 130 or so. There has to be some set limit where they physically can't continue. I guess calling a head would help them set up a road block or something.
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well techinically their cars can't go faster than what 130 or so. There has to be some set limit where they physically can't continue. I guess calling a head would help them set up a road block or something.
I've driven police Crown Vics, I think they'd be struggling to break 110 .

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Well lets see -- i dont know that theres a speed limit at which they cut chase, but they have to pull back if its endangering bystanders ...

As far as that goes --

Pre - 1998 P71 Crown Vics top speed is 137
Post 1998 P71 - 129 (Limited)
94-96 Caprice LT1 - 139
94-96 Caprice L99 - 121
Impala 9c1 GENII - 124
B4C Police Package Camaro (2001) - 159/160 m/a

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Well lets see -- i dont know that theres a speed limit at which they cut chase, but they have to pull back if its endangering bystanders ...

As far as that goes --

Pre - 1998 P71 Crown Vics top speed is 137
Post 1998 P71 - 129 (Limited)
94-96 Caprice LT1 - 139
94-96 Caprice L99 - 121
Impala 9c1 GENII - 124
B4C Police Package Camaro (2001) - 159/160 m/a

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Wow, I'm surprised they top out that fast. The ones I've driven were real slugs.

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Im sorta a self-proclaimed police car expert -- ive personally driven most of those cars to those speeds on a closed course, the most impressive is definitley the caprice for the size of the car -- had some real low end...

I agree though, the vics are not that good on the top end, the midrange that they have is pretty good though ... the natural gas vics are horrible

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Wow, I'm surprised they top out that fast. The ones I've driven were real slugs.

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Yeah but it takes them forever to get there...except for the z28, which also feels like it could fly off the road at any second above 130mph.
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There is no "set" universal speed at which the police will break off a chase. Most departments do have a persuit vs. no persuit policy but each department has different standards. Additionally there are alot of variables to take into consideration, i.e. what is the reason for the attempted traffic stop: speeding at 15 over or armed robbery with a hostage? what are the road vs. traffic conditions is it snowing/ raining or is the pavement dry, is it 2 a.m. on a wednesday night or is it rush hour with heavy traffic, overall what is the risk/ benefit factor and can the chase be justified. Also the chase may be initiated but called off by the persuing officer, his/ her seargant, or even the watch commander. I'm sure there are a few other variables I am missing but this gives you an idea as to the considerations they utilize.
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Those speeds are nice numbers but I betcha you won't outrun the helicopter.

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Those speeds are nice numbers but I betcha you won't outrun the helicopter.
get close to Ohare or Midway and Ill bet he could

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Those speeds are nice numbers but I betcha you won't outrun the helicopter.

Yeah, we learned this earlier this week with the guy on tape pulling his R1 in the garage .


If I notice a copter, I would try to go to a place where I knew there would be a lot of sportbikes, you know, try to blend in.

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Bottom line...it's not worth it unless you want to spend time with Bubba and be world's #1 bottom.
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If I notice a copter, I would try to go to a place where I knew there would be a lot of sportbikes, you know, try to blend in.
lower wacker would be a good idea

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In my younger and more foolish days, I did 130+MPH on I90 heading home at around 4am. My buddy was doing 120MPH+ as I passed him doing 130+MPH when I saw the ISP lights behind us. Fortunately my buddy pulled over and I kept on going. He took one for the team. I still owe him to this day for that one.

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good info guys. thanks!
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In my younger and more foolish days, I did 130+MPH on I90 heading home at around 4am. My buddy was doing 120MPH+ as I passed him doing 130+MPH when I saw the ISP lights behind us. Fortunately my buddy pulled over and I kept on going. He took one for the team. I still owe him to this day for that one.

Yeah Mao, unfortunately for me and I guess fortunately for you, I am normally that guy who gets spooked and pulls over . I will atleast make sure the LEO is coming after me first before I give in. I try to avoid this by staying in the middle rear of the pack. I heard on National Geographic, "the young Gazelle doesn't have to beat everyone to get away from the lion, just his slowest buddy" .

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We were in cars BTW. And Ron if you ever take one for me, I would owe you too. I'd visit you in prison every Sunday, unless MotoGP is on.

The cop was actually really nice to my buddy. Gave him a ticket for excessive speeding instead of wreckless driving and impounding the car. The cop asked my buddy about me and my buddy took the 5th. He lawyered up and ended up doing 3 weeks communty service. So it was a cheap lesson. Needless to say we never drove that fast again.

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Well lets see -- i dont know that theres a speed limit at which they cut chase, but they have to pull back if its endangering bystanders ...

As far as that goes --

Pre - 1998 P71 Crown Vics top speed is 137
Post 1998 P71 - 129 (Limited)
94-96 Caprice LT1 - 139
94-96 Caprice L99 - 121
Impala 9c1 GENII - 124
B4C Police Package Camaro (2001) - 159/160 m/a

Just some of my useless police information

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And what's the top speed of Motorola?

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HEre the local PD wont go above 80. Local Sheriff 100 (unless its a biggy), state 110 (but have an old friend who is a trooper get involved in a 140mph chase with his patrol mustang).

Local cops wont chase bikes. They have enough trouble trying to keep up with a bicycle much less a motorcycle. Local police officer had a bank robber on a bicycle elude him in his squad a few years back.
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Bottom line...it's not worth it unless you want to spend time with Bubba and be world's #1 bottom.

It is over 140mph I should know. Me and Bubba got aquainted back in 1999. High speed chase that ended badly . Still have the paperwork to prove it for those who think I am B.S.ing
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In my younger and more foolish days, I did 130+MPH on I90 heading home at around 4am. My buddy was doing 120MPH+ as I passed him doing 130+MPH when I saw the ISP lights behind us. Fortunately my buddy pulled over and I kept on going. He took one for the team. I still owe him to this day for that one.

This use to be a daily occurance (back in the day before he started roadracing) for someone I know not to give up his name but is initials ar S.A.
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Illinois State PD will not pursue unless you are wanted for homicide or other big ticket items.. I know this for a fact since we service all the local cars for them. The cars are dogs and don't have a high top end number but they just feel like they float along at about 100. The only cars you have to watch for from them are some unmarked mustangs that can get up and go. I thought the Willowbrook PD was going to be getting some fast cars since they have two Charges on the way into the fleet but the village cheaped out and they only got the V6 motor instead of the Hemi. And non of them will pursue bikes. They know they don't stand a chance in hell of catching one.
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It is over 140mph I should know. Me and Bubba got aquainted back in 1999. High speed chase that ended badly . Still have the paperwork to prove it for those who think I am B.S.ing


Good2Go, what happened? What were the fines? Time spent with Bubba? Details please. I have no tickets, but I want to know what happens to such an offender.

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And what's the top speed of Motorola?
Radio signals propagate around the speed of light ~ 300,000 km/second

In mph - right around 671,080,788 mph, under ideal conditions of course

And depending on the heliopter, some of them top at around 140mph, and will only do that if you run the turbine in the yellow... which you can only do for around 5 minutes

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Good2Go, what happened? What were the fines? Time spent with Bubba? Details please. I have no tickets, but I want to know what happens to such an offender.
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I wouldn't see why they would chase a bike at all, because any type of force would pretty much result in a fatality. Spike strips (Yeah, we know what that would do to a bike), raming (similar effect to spike strips). I think it would be best to get a helicopter to chase them from a distance and report once they have stopped. In Chicago I doubt this would happen because I heard we don't have that many helicopters available.

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I will be there to hear this. It will be an educational experience.

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