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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 03-06-2006, 01:32 PM Thread Starter
 
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Background Checking

Hey does anyone know if it's illegal to have a background check done on you without permission?

This is in regards to a job and they did a background check on me without my verbal or written permission. Can anyone do that?

Not trying to make money from this but just curious as to what my rights are. Anyone with any info will get a free joke!
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This is a catch 22 because if you don't give permission, then they can end the employment proceedings because you didn't want to continue with the process.

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Step one (IMO) would be to go back over everything that you signed, or that they presented to you about the position. Most times there is some verbage hidden in there that says you will submit to background, credit, etc. checks in order to be considered.

If you're like me, you're so busy counting the zeros in the offer letter that you completely overlook it. Then again, if you're like me, you're desperately hoping that someday they'll put a number infront of those zeros...

At any rate, it is my understanding that in IL, potential employers do not need your permission to run superficial background checks on you. I think the only thing you need to authorize specifically are your tax records. The rest is considered public knowledge of sorts.

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Step one (IMO) would be to go back over everything that you signed, or that they presented to you about the position. Most times there is some verbage hidden in there that says you will submit to background, credit, etc. checks in order to be considered.
On most company's job applications, right above the signature line, the fine prints states that you authorize any investigations into previous employment, background checks, etc.

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At the CBOE u have to subject urself to FBI background checks...which is always interesting...

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I should've been more clear - nothing was ever signed. This is for a position at a Chicago university. I know the guy in HR for years and he told me howl a background check was done. This is for university police. The proceedings have been going over for about half a year.

The only thing that has happened was an interview with the Chief, a Lt. and another officer (panel all at once).

I've been waiting for a response for about 2 months now. Again, nothing has been signed or agreed upon. Just a interview with the above people in a panel format.
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Loki. Yes, they have this right. This is related to Freedom of Information Act. If you have nothing better to do, you can do backgroud searches on anyone you want -- convictions are a matter of public record and must be released on request. You must get your conviction expunged..

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Loki. Yes, they have this right. This is related to Freedom of Information Act. If you have nothing better to do, you can do backgroud searches on anyone you want -- convictions are a matter of public record and must be released on request. You must get your conviction expunged..
Well no biggie. Not as if they'll find out I'm a porn star through a background check.

Ok, your joke is and stop me if ya heard this one:

Back in the day when the Union was still forming in North America there lived a man in Texas. Proud Texan and proud everything in Texas is big. This man learns that Alaska is purchased so the man thinking that Alaska is bigger picks up everything he owns and moves to Alaska.
Once he's settled he goes to a local Saloon. Opens the door and yells, "I'm from Texas! In Texas everything is big! Now that I'm in Alaska I want to know what it takes to become an Alaskan!"
A man in a corner waves him over. He goes and the stranger says, "This is what it takes to become an Alaskan. See that barrel of beer over there? You have to drink all of that beer in one sitting. Then you have to go out and kill a polar bear. After that, you must have sex with an Eskimo. When all that is done, you'll be an Alaskan."
The Texan smirks and says loudly, "That's easy!"
So he walks over to the barrel and drinks all the beer in one sitting. Burps, stands wobbly and then staggers, obviously drunk out the saloon and into the cold night.
A few hours later he comes back. His face bloody and scratched and clothes ripped to shreds in various locations. He's a total mess.
He sees the stranger and limps over to him, breath still smelling of beer and says, "Ok, now where's that Eskimo girl you want me to kill!"


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Okay, that's pretty funny, Loki.

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My guess is that the paper you sign to agree to it is either a formality or simply allows you to fess up to anything you might have on your record before they do the check.
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My guess is that the paper you sign to agree to it is either a formality or simply allows you to fess up to anything you might have on your record before they do the check.
Again, nothing signed my friend. It's no biggy, Biggy. I was just curious.

What I plan on doing in 2 weeks is paying the three credit bureaus for a year membership plus their id notification. Meaning anyone check my credit, if it changes, etc. I'm instantly notified of what's going on. If I had that I could know and call them and ask a few questions. Still, I know some things are public record. That's why I'm not really upset. A background check doesn't affect credit and I'm as clean as a whistle (on paper )
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Again, nothing signed my friend. It's no biggy, Biggy. I was just curious.

What I plan on doing in 2 weeks is paying the three credit bureaus for a year membership plus their id notification. Meaning anyone check my credit, if it changes, etc. I'm instantly notified of what's going on. If I had that I could know and call them and ask a few questions. Still, I know some things are public record. That's why I'm not really upset. A background check doesn't affect credit and I'm as clean as a whistle (on paper )
There's different levels of credit checks...some can and are run on you to get your address for mailing lists and so on. Those generally do not require consent if I recall correctly. They also do not impact your credit score and neither do the employment check credit screenings.
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There's different levels of credit checks...some can and are run on you to get your address for mailing lists and so on. Those generally do not require consent if I recall correctly. They also do not impact your credit score and neither do the employment check credit screenings.
Yeah, that's sort of what I was thinking. I just didn't like the idea that they did it without asking. It is a government job though so if I get it (I'm the top person of three other candidates) it'll be already done anyways. If I do a crime they won't check again because they already have!
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As an employer, if I was so inclined there is a whole lot of public information I can go after without and specific authorization. With proper authorization I could go very deep.

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As an employer, if I was so inclined there is a whole lot of public information I can go after without and specific authorization. With proper authorization I could go very deep.
Yeah, and them already being municipal I don't see them not being able to check without permission. I won't lose sleep over it for now.
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maybe you said "howl" one to many times in the interview and they just aren't interested
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maybe you said "howl" one to many times in the interview and they just aren't interested
That could be true. I do run into a lot of wolf haters. They tend to get me confused with dogs
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