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post #1 of 41 (permalink) Old 03-08-2006, 07:52 PM Thread Starter
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What's a good job?

I need a change of scenery bad. I know a lot of you guys are doing IT stuff. Is it that much fun? What do you need to get into IT?

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IT..much fun? I don't know about fun but for me, it is extremely rewarding, both mentally and financially. And at times, I guess it can be a bit "fun." (for me.)
As far as what it takes to get into IT...well, "IT" is a huge field. I guess it depends on what you want to do and where you want to go. Like anything else, it takes a lot of time, drive and ambition to be successful.

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lmfao I gotta go spread some rep around so I can rep that one

I've been in school for IT about 1.5 years now for CCNA and CCNP. I still don't feel like I'm ready for the test. I don't know if I ever will feel that way though. I've seen figures start at 40-50k a year once you have it though. Plus you get a lot of power and control of what people can and can not do. So if your power hungry like I am go for it.

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Most of the money you make in IT will go into heavy drinking on the weekends... er... weeknights and weekends... uh, ok... lunches, weeknights and weekends...

otherwise you go insane...

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Most of the money you make in IT will go into heavy drinking on the weekends... er... weeknights and weekends... uh, ok... lunches, weeknights and weekends...

otherwise you go insane...


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lmfao I gotta go spread some rep around so I can rep that one

I've been in school for IT about 1.5 years now for CCNA and CCNP. I still don't feel like I'm ready for the test.

Dude the ccna isn't that hard. Come on, $100.00 to take the test. (or maybe a little more.) ...take it and see where you stand. Sh*t I'll even put up $40 of it!

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I heard it was nearly 400 bucks???? what am I missing??
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I work as Sr. System Engineer and teach in Computer Systems Institute in Skokie for 3 years. Finishing Computer Repair Tech /HelpDesk Analyst class in few weeks and start teaching MCSA/MCSE class in april.

I am A+, CCNA, CCA, CNA, CNE, ASE, MCSE, MCSA, MCDBA, MCT certified, had been in the IT for 10 years. 8 years - consultant, now my first full-time position.

THERE IS NO FUN IN IT!!!!!

If you are willing to start after 3-4 month training at about 13-15/hour doing Helpdesk or field PC break fix, study all the time, take a test every 2 months, pass it, change a job every year or two, be lucky, then in about 10 years you will be close to or into 6 figures.
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Damn, 13-15/hr ain't gonna cut it. I thought it woulda been a cool 6 figures from the beginning, but I guess I'm dreaming.. . I actually am working with fiberoptic networks (backbone), and am at 75k, but telco is so stale now and I want to try something different. Thanks for all the info! Guess I'll have to take a few tests....

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i have a couple practice test for ccna and ccnp if you want them. we can transfer through AIM lemme know
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Damn, 13-15/hr ain't gonna cut it. I thought it woulda been a cool 6 figures from the beginning, but I guess I'm dreaming.. . I actually am working with fiberoptic networks (backbone), and am at 75k, but telco is so stale now and I want to try something different. Thanks for all the info! Guess I'll have to take a few tests....
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The serious answer ....

Do something you love and work will never seem like work !

If you don't love the IT business it can really suck.

If you don't love whatever it is you do, it can really suck.


Bonus points if what you do also happens to make some decent coin !


So... what is it that you have a passion for ?


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This is probably off topic on what you want to hear but........

My idea of a great job goes back to my Dad's speech MANY years ago.....

"No matter what job you do just make sure you do that job the best you can."
(then i did not understand it too well but now that i am older it rings VERY true AND clear. Rewards will follow)

"A great job is a job you can smile and laugh at, work steady 40 hours, be outside when its warm, be inside when its cold, and most important.....NOT do anything overly physical unless you want too."

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i have a couple practice test for ccna and ccnp if you want them. we can transfer through AIM lemme know

i will take u up on that if they are the recent tests....but how big r the files?...maybe send via email?.....

i been in the telcom game for over 12 years...and was barely making 62k a year...and i have DONE IT ALL....how the hell this 1 guy us making over 75k a year can only lead to 1 answer.....UNION.....

...plus my gf was with me saying "omg slow down, slow down" and I was thinking "Lose annoying squalk box in passenger seat, afford more mods and have less weight in the car and on the back of the bike"...so i dumped her and I'm single again as usual...HERE KITTY KITTY!!!
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i will take u up on that if they are the recent tests....but how big r the files?...maybe send via email?.....

i been in the telcom game for over 12 years...and was barely making 62k a year...and i have DONE IT ALL....how the hell this 1 guy us making over 75k a year can only lead to 1 answer.....UNION.....

Is that a bad thing?????
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I heard it was nearly 400 bucks???? what am I missing??
Obviously the $100 test cost I spoke about was in regards to the CCNA Test

The CCNP (Being 4 tests or a comb of 2 and 2 I think, is going to be more.)

CCNA Test: $125 (-$40 I'll give you = $85!!)
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i will take u up on that if they are the recent tests....but how big r the files?...maybe send via email?.....

i been in the telcom game for over 12 years...and was barely making 62k a year...and i have DONE IT ALL....how the hell this 1 guy us making over 75k a year can only lead to 1 answer.....UNION.....
Get into the data portion of telcom.

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I work as Sr. System Engineer and teach in Computer Systems Institute in Skokie for 3 years. Finishing Computer Repair Tech /HelpDesk Analyst class in few weeks and start teaching MCSA/MCSE class in april.

I am A+, CCNA, CCA, CNA, CNE, ASE, MCSE, MCSA, MCDBA, MCT certified, had been in the IT for 10 years. 8 years - consultant, now my first full-time position.

THERE IS NO FUN IN IT!!!!!

If you are willing to start after 3-4 month training at about 13-15/hour doing Helpdesk or field PC break fix, study all the time, take a test every 2 months, pass it, change a job every year or two, be lucky, then in about 10 years you will be close to or into 6 figures.
You took the wrong path man.

Been working in IT since 1990, switched jobs about 6 times. Been at my current job 6 years. I currently run the IT department for a large CPA firm. 3 weeks paid vacation, plus holiday/sick time, comp time for any overtime or can get paid out. It's been real fun for me.

Sounds like what happened is you got CERTIFRIED Oh, and now that I've been here so long I get paid to surf the net all day. LOL

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lmfao I gotta go spread some rep around so I can rep that one

I've been in school for IT about 1.5 years now for CCNA and CCNP. I still don't feel like I'm ready for the test. I don't know if I ever will feel that way though. I've seen figures start at 40-50k a year once you have it though. Plus you get a lot of power and control of what people can and can not do. So if your power hungry like I am go for it.
Have you taken any of the ccna practice tests? The NA and NP are really different. The NA should be a snap if you've been studing this long for it. I can quiz you in PM's if you want?

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Yup, he nailed it exactly on the head. I saw more folks drop out of Computer Science at DePaul than almost anything else. Yea it's a tough major, but I think some dropped it because it didn't pan out to be as cool as they thought it would be with funky screens like the ones from the movie 'Hackers'. I think the general thought is that it sounds cooler than it really is.
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You took the wrong path man.

Been working in IT since 1990, switched jobs about 6 times. Been at my current job 6 years. I currently run the IT department for a large CPA firm. 3 weeks paid vacation, plus holiday/sick time, comp time for any overtime or can get paid out. It's been real fun for me.

Sounds like what happened is you got CERTIFRIED Oh, and now that I've been here so long I get paid to surf the net all day. LOL
Well, I don't complain myself - I am at the end of that 10 years, as I described and I been lucky - started in 1996.

So, 3 weeks off + comp time and personal/sick days - yes. surf web on the job - hell, yes!

certs came along as a part of my 8 years consulting career - got to do that to stay ahead.

And no way, I am going to be an IT manager - worst part of IT - I will always be the techie grunt, making as much as a manager and having no responsibility.
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Yup, he nailed it exactly on the head. I saw more folks drop out of Computer Science at DePaul than almost anything else. Yea it's a tough major, but I think some dropped it because it didn't pan out to be as cool as they thought it would be with funky screens like the ones from the movie 'Hackers'. I think the general thought is that it sounds cooler than it really is.

thats because theres no such thing as hot programmer chicks in school, like there was in hackers.


I always found coding interesting. If you can think logically, then your good at coding. Trying to find the least amount of steps to do something.

You have 5 people on one side of the bridge, and you need to carry them back. Can you do it in less then 3 trips?


Im not sure how many people this has effected. But its happening already, and will probably getting worse. They are outsourcing all IT work to India. Coders and tech support.

I suggest studying another degree, just in case you cant find a job. Or find numerous things you can do in the IT field.
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