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Ugh!

Time to fight with parents at report card pick up day.

Parent:"Why did you not tell me my angel was failing?

me: I sent a progress report 5 weeks ago a failure notice 3 weeks ago and since the beginning of the year you must sign their weekend essay, and none have been turned in that is how they are failing.

parent: You should have called.

me: I did the number the school has is no good.

parent: You should have sent a note.

me: that's what progress reports and failure notices are.

parent: I'm going to go talk to the principal.

me: okay.

ughh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

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"The apple doesn't fall far from the tree".
No shit! Where the hell do you teach?

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No shit! Where the hell do you teach?
thats just about every school nowadays.




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It's sad to see parents doing their kids a disservice by trying to pretend that virtually every parental responsibility is outsourced.

Perhaps, put in a different perspective: child creators who don't have the desire to be parents.
(And look what the kid learns from it)

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I don't think I can ever be a teacher, well a good teacher. I just want to smack the shiet out of kids who don't listen.

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do you by any chance teach at my old highschool?

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When did the rapid decline in child and adolescent intelligence happen? I remeber in school that these things didn't happen you didn't get something signed and you went to the principals office and you were repremanded. They need to bring back corpral punishment. Some of the stuff I hear from my teacher freinds is obnoxious and amazing that we have any teachers at all.

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I don't think I can ever be a teacher, well a good teacher. I just want to smack the shiet out of kids who don't listen.

SECOND THAT MOTION!!!! I was going to start a buisness smacking the hell out of kids so the parents didn't have to be the "bad guy"

Seems parents want to be there kids freinds instead of parents these days. Thats why kids are such a mess.

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thats just about every school nowadays.
You mean that parents everywhere are idiots and not willing to take responsibility? It seems to be epidemic in our society lately, I mean WTF?

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When did the rapid decline in child and adolescent intelligence happen? I remeber in school that these things didn't happen you didn't get something signed and you went to the principals office and you were repremanded. They need to bring back corpral punishment. Some of the stuff I hear from my teacher freinds is obnoxious and amazing that we have any teachers at all.
Schools can't be parents, yet the parents expect them to be.

Smacking a kid doesn't give them self esteem and self worth to have the desire to do the right thing. All you get out of it is conformity until they grow up and dispence the smack to their spouse or their own kids. Schools shouldn't play a role in that cycle.

Discipline problems should be on a graduating scale of options to be used w/ discretion based on the nature of the infraction and prior history (blahblahblah). The end point for that becomes bouncing them back to the parent, to the cops or to juvenile detention (again, cops).

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SECOND THAT MOTION!!!! I was going to start a buisness smacking the hell out of kids so the parents didn't have to be the "bad guy"

Seems parents want to be there kids freinds instead of parents these days. Thats why kids are such a mess.
That's one side of it, the other is because the parents don't teach the kid any self worth and they are too wrapped up in their own little lives, and all the kid learns is "No one really wants me" and the cycle of low self esteem, hurt, resentment and anger starts.

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I volunteer to spank all the teenie bopper girls. Someone has to do it, so I will take one for the team.

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15 will get you 20.
Hence my sig.

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Lots of old folks sittin on the porch today My mom's a teacher. She amazes me with her patience and rational thinking. These parents are coming from out of left field.

Most of her students come from a family where both parents are working. She seems to think it is the parents making up for the fact that they are not there caring for their children. It is a whole psychological thing.

Kind of similar to the violent video game thing. Parents are taking a stand on these issues because it is the only way they can feel like they are caring and doing something for their kids.

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A good properly dispensed spanking when they are young teaches them that there are consequences for thier actions in a language they can understand. reasoning with a 2 year old doesnt work as we have all seen in any grocery store across the country.
This is probably too froo froo for you now, but print it out and save it for later in life.

Communicating approval and disapproval at a young age does not need a spoken language base beyond tone or body language. Even infants can read body language and tone and know when you're happy, upset, calm or afraid.

Kids at that age act up normally as a result of deveopmental stages (separation, emotions they don't yet understand, let alone can not control yet), etc. A parent who's aware of that can use a variety of techniques to head off the problems before they start.

Acknowledge what they point out to you at the store (validation, not ignoring them). If they have a concern, stoop down to their level and listen to them (again, validation of emotions). Make them part of the experience ("Hold the list" {the one you had them write up or wrote up for them, so they can interactively be focused on that task of scribbling things off instead of looking at all the shit you're going to tell them NO they can't have})
Play a game trying to 'find the next thing you need'.. 'Let's see who can spot something green, or Yellow'

Wow, positive experience = good conformed behaviour... all because a parent actually validates their kid and makes them feel loved and happy... the child will SEEK that positive attention.

Fail to do this in their early stages of childhood and you wind up with a kid who seeks negative attention, because even negative attention is better than NO attention.

The same base core fundamentals works for most everything in life.

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Most of her students come from a family where both parents are working. She seems to think it is the parents making up for the fact that they are not there caring for their children. It is a whole psychological thing.
Kid learns: Kid not important, since mom and dad spend all their time doing something else. The brief moments at the end of the day are usually spent doling out negativity towards the kid because the kid is not acting like an adult in the eyes of the parent and thus, the cycle goes on.

(( Or they buy their kid crap and farm them off to the electronic babysitter in the evening because they have to sooth their internal guilt about not parenting their kid... or they simply don't want to... most never realize this is what they are doing))

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This will turn political real fast so I am staying out of it.

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My wife is a department chair and all her teachers have to deal with this. When she was teaching, the parents would blame her for not making the content interesting enough or easy enough for their kids to pass. Nevermind their precious kid never showed up to class 1/2 the time or slept through every class and never did bit of homework or studying.

Then they'd (the parent/s) go to the school boards, (which are populated by totally corrupt ego-driven idiots that can't seem to act like adults in any situation, and don't give a rat's ass about the students or what they're learning or if they learn anything) to get the teacher in trouble. Then the board pressures the superintendant, who pressures the principals, who pressure the department chairs, who pressure the teacher to pass the kid and keep the parent happy and keep the revenue stream flowing.

The whole public education system is flucked up. There's no realistic way to fix it either.
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This will turn political real fast so I am staying out of it.
There are no politics to this.

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I dunno...

The fear of my father's belt kept me out of a lot of shit when I was a child and it was sufficient to respect my parents (and other adults) simply because that's who they were.

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I won't comment on parenting as I haven't been called upon to raise anything other than the occasional goldfish...but if I would have been given time-outs when I was a kid instead of "more direct associations between right and wrong" I'd be nearly finished with my Manefesto by now. Instead I'm stuck on Chapter 4 - World Domination through Procrastination

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Quote:
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Time to fight with parents at report card pick up day.

Parent:"Why did you not tell me my angel was failing?

me: I sent a progress report 5 weeks ago a failure notice 3 weeks ago and since the beginning of the year you must sign their weekend essay, and none have been turned in that is how they are failing.

parent: You should have called.

me: I did the number the school has is no good.

parent: You should have sent a note.

me: that's what progress reports and failure notices are.

parent: I'm going to go talk to the principal.

me: okay.

ughh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

I will have this converstation at least 20 times today.

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