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I just got back from PetCo and compared 6 different brands of canned dog food (the only ones with no meat by-products on the labels off the shelf). I paid close attention to the beginning ingredients. The end ingredients were all vitamins and minerals (niacin, etc) so I just glanced through them:

Pet Gold = not good - it just claimed liver as a source of protein (2nd ingredient) and God knows what animal that liver came from...no bueno. It also had a lot of binders and salt

Science Diet = not good - pretty much same review as Pet Gold

Nutro Ultra = not the best - it had a lot of hard to digest ingredients in there and a lot of human by-products that could be dirty and contain chemcials

Nutro Max = ok - had 2 human by-products (5th and 8th ingredients) and then salt as the 11th ingredient


Natural Balance = recommended - only bad ingredient I saw was sodium and that was the 14th ingredient

Neura Meats = recommended - didn't see any black listed ingredients at all. 95% real chicken (listed as their # 1 ingredient) and tons of vitamins and minerals

as soon as she finishes up her 40 lb bag of Eukanuba dry food, I'll do the same comparison for dry food

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sorry my 1st link didn't work

http://www.dogfoodproject.com/index....badingredients

this explains what the by-products are and why they are bad

basically it's what's left over after they process human food...has no real nutritional value, could have possible chemicals or pesticides left in it, as well as other additives, etc
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I buy Flint River Ranch. It is a "super-premium" dog food.

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Waaaay too much information on that site and no rankings of the manufacturers. Ive been using Pro-Plan for a few years Nutro before that, but according to that site, corn is bad.

Id need to spend a few hours on that site and another five digging up all the ingredients for the 50 manufacturres out there and there 10 lines of dog food.
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My wife feeds them Nutro Max. I'm sure she does this because some vet or dog trainer recommended it.

When I feed the dogs, I feed the older ones Purina Alpo Prime Cuts in gravy. I'm sure it's not as healthy as the Nutro Max; but it appears to taste better to the dogs, and I figure the old dogs should get whatever they want.

For the most part, dogs don't seem to care what they eat. Last week, two of them attempted to consume my wife's cell phone. I found parts all over the house, and in the back yard. It was awesome.

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According to that website...Nutro is not highly rated.
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Corn is very bad being that its a filler. it has absolutly no nutritional value and produces more "waste"

The better food you feed, the better the dog will feel and look "coat wise"
also there will be less waste to pick up.

this was the #1 thing i researched when i got my 3 dogs cause thats ALOT of "waste"

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my breeder recommended Nuturo Natural Choice... She eats it, she poops, firm, usually outside. Vet says she's healthy...According to my vet, people way over analyze food, just pick a good quality name brand from a pet store and stick with it. I am sure there are differences, and when I was a kid the dogs got nothing buy purina small bits and they all lead happy healthy lives...

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my breeder recommended Nuturo Natural Choice... She eats it, she poops, firm, usually outside.
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I buy the 44lb bag of Purina Fit & Trim from Sam's.

Over the course of a couple of weeks, they slowly take half of that bag to the backyard and turn my grass greener

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Your breeder eats dog food and poops outside??
she was a strange lady, so I wouldn't put it past her, but alas, no I was talking about my dog. A female golden retriever

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Well, when my ex-roommate's GF (now wife) would come up to Chicago to visit (she's from North Caroilina), I caught her:

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The single fruits and veggies babyfood is awesome

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I buy Flint River Ranch. It is a "super-premium" dog food.
Yeah I was looking into that brand as well...only reason I haven't so far is because it's not available at any local stores as far as I know (or am I wrong?) Have to get it on the internet...I'll check out the ingredients


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hey just checked the ingredients and looks really good...plus it has more than double the amounts of protein

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According to my vet, people way over analyze food, just pick a good quality name brand from a pet store and stick with it. I am sure there are differences, and when I was a kid the dogs got nothing buy purina small bits and they all lead happy healthy lives...
that's not entirely true. some of the add-ins and byproducts contain chemicals that can cause cancer and other severe illnesses in dogs. My dog is a member of my family, not just a dog to me, so if I can provide her a longer healthier life by being a bit picky on what I feed her then to me it's more than worth it.

Plus Eukanuba was supposed to be a "high-quality" brand name and they have a lot of crappy ingredients in it!!!
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Plus Eukanuba was supposed to be a "high-quality" brand name and they have a lot of crappy ingredients in it!!!

thats one of the worst you can feed, right along with Iams, Pedagree, and some others i cant think of right now

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http://www.peta.org/feat/iams/food-letter2.html

And yeah I know it's from peta, bla bla bla...but it's still worth a look. Some of the dog food companies do some pretty ridiculous experiments on dogs.
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Yeah I was looking into that brand as well...only reason I haven't so far is because it's not available at any local stores as far as I know (or am I wrong?) Have to get it on the internet...I'll check out the ingredients


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hey just checked the ingredients and looks really good...plus it has more than double the amounts of protein
If you are anywhere near the NW side of Chicago, there is a dog grooming/food store called "Wag Your Tail". It is on Addison just west of Oak Park Ave:

http://yp.yahoo.com/py/ypMap.py?Pyt=...r:regT:1:fbT:0

That's where I buy it, but you obviously will pay more than the normal everyday Purina. I pay about $27.00 for a 20-lb bag of lamb, millet, and rice baked kibble.

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that's not entirely true. some of the add-ins and byproducts contain chemicals that can cause cancer and other severe illnesses in dogs. My dog is a member of my family, not just a dog to me, so if I can provide her a longer healthier life by being a bit picky on what I feed her then to me it's more than worth it.

Plus Eukanuba was supposed to be a "high-quality" brand name and they have a lot of crappy ingredients in it!!!
this entirely becomes an issue of 1 persons word vs. another. When I am sick, I consult the internet, but ultimately my doctor has the best answer. When my dog is sick, I do the same. I have read websites comparing one food vs. another. And generally speaking there are alot of foods that are better then others. I picked one that carried a resonable cost and most importantly came recommended from my breeder (while strange, she had great love for the dogs, and she interviewed me before I was allowed to take home my dog) and finally, I take the advice of my vet. He has been in business for a very long time, and I trust his opinion. While you are probably right, there is probably one food better then another, I doubt that me vet is wrong...

besides, i don't spend this much time looking at the foods I eat, let alone my dog...

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besides, i don't spend this much time looking at the foods I eat, let alone my dog...
That says it all right there!

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are you guys speaking of canned food or dry food?

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