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Honda Vs. Suzuki Vs. Yamaha

I dunno if this has been posted up yet or not, but i was looking for some input on the better brand.

as far as:
1. Power
2. reliability
3. Overall Quality & value

I've heard there have been many problems with the Suzu's overheating because it's a water-cooled engine. I may be wrong.

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I've heard there have been many problems with the Suzu's overheating because it's a water-cooled engine. I may be wrong.
Hmmm...aren't they pretty much all water cooled these days?

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I think pretty much everyone agrees this comparison is a crap-shoot.

Can't really go wrong with any of them.
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Originally Posted by kitty15
I dunno if this has been posted up yet or not, but i was looking for some input on the better brand.

as far as:
1. Power
2. reliability
3. Overall Quality & value

I've heard there have been many problems with the Suzu's overheating because it's a water-cooled engine. I may be wrong.
no offense but your post is about the most confusing thing I've ever read.

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really it depends on what you're looking for, purpose, models you're comparing. They're all very well made but all bikes have their idiosyncrasies.

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You are missing a company.

+1. What about Kawasaki? For that matter what about Ducati, Aprilia, or Buell? All of these companies make quality bikes. I've owned 4 Kawi's and as everyone on the board knows I'm quite happy with them.

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really it depends on what you're looking for, purpose, models you're comparing. They're all very well made but all bikes have their idiosyncrasies.

I was a few minutes late, wasn't I?

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You are missing a company.
Maybe she's just not considering the green brand.

Anyways, for almost any of the three listed, it's pretty much even. Yeah, the various magazines will do their comparos to see which is the 'best', but their 'best' is usually chosen by the slimmest of margins, which generally can't be seen by most mortal riders. Therefore, it's best to pick the bike YOU want based on what's important to YOU. If you have a specific ergonomic requirement that's super important, pick the one that's most comfy to YOU, not anybody else (spotting the trend). Some people want more low end grunt for street riding, or higher bars, or decent passenger acommodations.

From an aftermarket standpoint, all 3 will have lots of options. Reliability wise they are pretty much the same. They are all liquid cooled, which allow the engine to rev higher since it's not air cooled.

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It really comes down to personal taste...they are all excellent, reliable machines...but different...and where the hell is KAWI!!!!

My takes:

1. Honda - very reliable, very dependable, very compliant, very bland...i've had two (an F4 and a 1000RR) and loved them, but the Honda's seem to lack a little soul power They are IMO the best all around machines...doing everything very well, but not really the best in any area...

2. Suzuki - never really my bag, i've never had one and can't attest to their quality personally, but they are probably the biggest player in the sportbike game and started it all with the GSXR-750.

3. Yamaha - seems to have "gotten it" with their marketing. Yamaha has focused a lot on looks and style in recent years...not to say the engines and performance aren't outstanding too...first gear tends to be a little tall and the R6/R1's don't have much of a low end grunt comparitively in my experience.

4. Kawasaki - bulletproof...IMO the most dependable engine in the market (knock on wood ) Kawi is known for big muscle.......and heavy bikes, but they seem to have rectified that witht the new ZX's....my favorite Japanese brand.

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Even with the wide range of bikes on here, or anywhere. There is almost zero bitching about quality, reliability or power from anyone. Like everyone else said, it's really hard to find a bad motorcycle these days

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no offense but your post is about the most confusing thing I've ever read.
sorry but u got the gist of it.

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Like everyone else said, it's really hard to find a bad motorcycle these days
Here's one




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Pick your favorite color and see which one fits the best. Otherwise they are all the same.

That is pretty much what i did. And those were the brands I was looking at. I was looking for something with power, low-maintenance and of course style, , I wasnt really sure which to pick, that is why i asked. Newbie here.

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...i hear the black one's legit though

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j/k

I know I was. j/k

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I've been real happy with Suzuki bikes vs all my other bikes. Real easy access to everything you need to swap like oil changes, radiator fluids, and what not. Just a well laid out bike. I don't know how it is with the new 2006 models though, everyone seems to be cramming parts into as small a package as possible. But my SV650 and 2000 GSXR600 have both been real easy to work on.

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I've been real happy with Suzuki bikes vs all my other bikes. Real easy access to everything you need to swap like oil changes, radiator fluids, and what not. Just a well laid out bike. I don't know how it is with the new 2006 models though, everyone seems to be cramming parts into as small a package as possible. But my SV650 and 2000 GSXR600 have both been real easy to work on.
+1...i'll definately give the nod to Suzuki as far as forward thinking in regards to maintenance...without ever owning one i'm well aware of this fact, which is testament to that particular reputation.

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Which will have longer life Suzuki or Honda?

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That's kinda like asking if a Honda Civic will outlast a Toyota Corolla...

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Which will have longer life Suzuki or Honda?
Well that depends on the owner...

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That's kinda like asking if a Honda Civic will outlast a Toyota Corolla...

give it ur best shot

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What are the three bikes in question?
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You should just cut out all the crap and get one of these.




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If you take decent care of em, do all the maintenance and never crash, any newer bike from any of the manufacturers should have no problems lasting past 75K or maybe even 100K miles. Unless you are totally beating the crap out of the bike pulling 5 mile long wheelies all day long or completely neglecting it, you'll sell the bike long before you wear it out.

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You should just cut out all the crap and get one of these.


We were just talking about that bike at Strat's last night

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