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What's a "9/80" work week??

Been surfing job boards all morning, came across probably 2 dozen listings from Lockheed Martin on dice.com. Some of the listings had "Workweek: M-F" listed, and some had "Workweek: 9/80". Anybody know what a 9/80 work week is? The positions sound interesting, I'm going to apply anyways... I just want to know what I could be getting myself into.

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A 9/80 is 9 hours Monday through Thursday with 8 hours on Friday and every other Friday off.

In other words:

9 hr Mon. - Thurs.
8 hr Fri.
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Three-day weekend every other week.

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Thanks Dave! I never would've guessed that's what it is... but it makes sense. 3-day weekend every other week? I could handle that...

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9/80= lots of OT, little pay,and lots of abuse

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LOL... sounds just like my current job now! At least the new job would be someplace sunny! (Sunnyvale, CA)

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Sunnyvale... where you finding these??

I wanna work for Lockheed
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Sunnyvale... where you finding these??

I wanna work for Lockheed

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Yeah money is fine. But chicago pisses me off. Put 2+2 together and you have...
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I wanna work for Lockheed
www.dice.com

Search "Metro Areas" and click on the San Francisco Bay area. I then limited the search to keywords "entry level." It pulled up probably 2 dozen hits all from Lockheed. Most were "Systems Engineering" jobs, and a handful were "Software Engineering." I'm applying to all of them... hopefully one of them will kick in They were divided up between Sunnyvale (or was it Sunnydale ) and San Jose.

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CA is nice guys but don't forget you need almost twice the salary you make here just for cost of living increase out there

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Search "Metro Areas" and click on the San Francisco Bay area. I then limited the search to keywords "entry level." It pulled up probably 2 dozen hits all from Lockheed. Most were "Systems Engineering" jobs, and a handful were "Software Engineering." I'm applying to all of them... hopefully one of them will kick in They were divided up between Sunnyvale (or was it Sunnydale ) and San Jose.
Yup I just put my resume in with Lockheed. I'd rather be in SoCal though... there are a LOT of entry-level jobs out there! And I could probably make a LOT more than I am here... and find a place for a lot less, too (unless I live somewhere like Beverly Hills). Chicago is WAY too expensive for what it is dude...

PS why are you doing the job search thing?
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Nope! Believe me going from living in the city to somewhere in Cali will be a welcome break from the prices I pay for this bullshit. Plus I can get rid of my car and ride my bike to work hehehehe
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Nope! Believe me going from living in the city to somewhere in Cali will be a welcome break from the prices I pay for this bullshit. Plus I can get rid of my car and ride my bike to work hehehehe

You are kidding right. My friend moved out there and pays $2400 a month rent for a place half the size of mine. Housing costs out there are outrageous, especially outside of the city's.

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You are kidding right. My friend moved out there and pays $2400 a month rent for a place half the size of mine. Housing costs out there are outrageous, especially outside of the city's.
Hm I heard it wasn't THAT bad. Something to think about definitely.

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CA is nice guys but don't forget you need almost twice the salary you make here just for cost of living increase out there
Yes and no. Houses definitely cost 2x as much, and for less house. Gas costs a little bit more. But everything else is the same. Cars, apartments, furniture, food, etc all still cost the same. A decent apt. in SF will run you ~$1,000/mo. Most apts I looked at in LITH ran $1,000 - $1,200/mo. A meal at McD's in CA will cost the same as a meal here in IL.

And even if I'm wrong, and it IS way more expensive... I think it's worth it. Now instead of waking up every morning 6 months out of the year, looking outside and feeling depressed... I can wake up to sunshine and warm air. I can drive out to the ocean, or ride up into the mountains and relax. It's not so much money I'm after anymore... it's psychological happiness

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Hm I heard it wasn't THAT bad. Something to think about definitely.

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You are kidding right. My friend moved out there and pays $2400 a month rent for a place half the size of mine. Housing costs out there are outrageous, especially outside of the city's.

Wow. I haven't noticed that. I've spent some time on rent.com, apartments.com and www.bayarea.com and I haven't had any problems locating an apartment for ~$1,000/mo. He must have one hell of an apartment.

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Wow. I haven't noticed that. I've spent some time on rent.com, apartments.com and www.bayarea.com and I haven't had any problems locating an apartment for ~$1,000/mo. He must have one hell of an apartment.
Why are you looking for entry level stuff... I thought you were experienced??
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Wow. I haven't noticed that. I've spent some time on rent.com, apartments.com and www.bayarea.com and I haven't had any problems locating an apartment for ~$1,000/mo. He must have one hell of an apartment.
It's a two bedroom Condo. If I remember right it's in San Diego. Trust me the guys got $$$$ and couldn't afford a house out there.

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Why are you looking for entry level stuff... I thought you were experienced??
I am. I've worked full time for Motorola for over 2 years now. But most of the things I've done with Mot, don't really apply anywhere outside of this specific job. And it has absolutely NOTHING to do with my degree (computer science) or anything I'm interested in (I don't really care for telecom - at least at the level I am working in, which is more of a field-service position.) I got my CS degree because I like working with computers, I like programming, and I'm good at it. I want to find a position that puts me back there, and I want to get back into it before I lose all my skills. I took the job I'm at now because they offered me $55k 10 months before I graduated (at the time I was making $12/hr.) I jumped on it. Now I'm realizing that it's not what I want to do. I'll spare my other whinings about working stupid hours here and them making it damn near impossible to maintain a social or dating life.

Plus, when you search for "small experience" you find jobs that in the requirements field say "10+ years experience required.) If you search for "entry level" you tend to find stuff that is closer to "1-2 years experience required." I don't care if I have to start back at the bottom, as I'm still "at the bottom" after 2 years at Mot. It'll also be easier to get into a programming field if it's entry level, as I'm probably a bit rusty now.

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Yeah money is fine. But chicago pisses me off. Put 2+2 together and you have...

Hold on a minute...



... Am I the only one who remebers Stydie going on and on about how great it is to live in the city? LOL, move on out here to the suburbs dude. And visit the city. much better way to live. I was just down in greek town last night for dinner. Then retreated to my peacfull setting.




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... Am I the only one who remebers Stydie going on and on about how great it is to live in the city? LOL, move on out here to the suburbs dude. And visit the city. much better way to live. I was just down in greek town last night for dinner. Then retreated to my peacfull setting.
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... Am I the only one who remebers Stydie going on and on about how great it is to live in the city? LOL, move on out here to the suburbs dude. And visit the city. much better way to live. I was just down in greek town last night for dinner. Then retreated to my peacfull setting.
Aha you've pointed out an interesting point. At first I thought city life was the bomb. Then if you've noticed over the past few months my attitudes have changed quite a bit. It's expensive here... people are assholes... there's crime... can't park anywhere... tough to ride a bike without getting blaowed by a car... and the weather sucks...

Now the suburbs might be nice... but the thing is I just don't get along with the people here. ANYWHERE has to be better than here... I mean I'm a down-home boy from the middle of ohio who's used to generally nice people. This is NOT what I expected. I know peeps in cali aren't the best... but this environment just may not be for me.

The economy sucks so bad right now I'm not gonna get a job anyway so there's no point... but I can try yknow
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:finger you proved your point, brian ... the city's not all it's cracked up to be, no... but I'm thinking of somewhere a LITTLE farther than the suburbs
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PS why are you doing the job search thing?
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Also, I like the idea of being able to ride all year long. I like the idea of going someplace NEW. Almost like an adventure, almost like getting to hit a giant 'reset' button and just start over.

I know that if I'm gonna go, NOW is the time to do it - before I get tied down with a girlfriend that doesn't want to move, a wife, kids, etc.

I wanted to go AWAY to school, and didn't (unless you count "away" as 45 miles from home - I don't.) Then I figured, I'd graduate and move away then. That didn't happen. So now, I'm stuck in a job I hate, I don't have very many obligations... maybe now is the time to do it. The last thing I want, is to wake up one morning, 40 years old, tied down here hating every minute of it, and regret never going when I had the chance to.

All I know is, I *don't* like Chicago. I hate the weather, hate the scenery. The only thing keeping me here is my friends.

I've already applied to probably 5-6 different positions out in SF. Tonight I will apply for the listings with Lockheed. I have an interview with Iveco (diesel truck company looking to open a location in Carol Stream, IL) on 1/14. That is the last IL-based company I think I'm going to apply to. Everything else will be in CA.

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Aha you've pointed out an interesting point. At first I thought city life was the bomb. Then if you've noticed over the past few months my attitudes have changed quite a bit. It's expensive here... people are assholes... there's crime... can't park anywhere... tough to ride a bike without getting blaowed by a car... and the weather sucks...

Man.........I think you should go back and check out the reasons Tony and I gave you for burb livin'
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PS Stydie - let me know if you ever hear back from them after applying. I'll do the same for you. That way we kinda know if anything is going to come of it (if they respond to you, and 2 weeks go by and I haven't heard anything, then I kinda know they're not interested...)

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I know I know... see the thing is in the suburbs I'd still have horrible traffic into and out of the city... an hour-long commute each way (more $$$ too)... and the weather still sucks...

I like all y'all too... seriously I feel super super lucky that I could find a group of people to ride and hang with who are so cool. But you guys ruined me ... because once you showed me how amazing riding is I am actually willing to change my entire life and move to be able to do it year-round. I'm not even joking here... bein' completely serious!

See I'm with Jim almost 100%... the only difference is he's been here 2 years and I've only been here less than half that... so it's gonna be harder for me to move. The only thing that would keep me here in chicago are my good friends... I mean my best friends in the entire world live here... it would be tough to leave but I would do it in a heartbeat for one thing and one thing only... sunny skies. The weather has an enormous psychological effect on me... I know it sounds silly but it's true ... I thought about moving back to columbus but the weather there isn't much better ...

But like I said economy sucks... not a good chance I'll be able to do it anyway ...
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PS Stydie - let me know if you ever hear back from them after applying. I'll do the same for you. That way we kinda know if anything is going to come of it (if they respond to you, and 2 weeks go by and I haven't heard anything, then I kinda know they're not interested...)
Totally... good idea... I have contacts in SoCal too... I'll check them out. Sounds like you're looking to greener pastures for the same reason I am...

I moved here while I was still dating my ex because she liked chicago and wanted to move up here when we got married after she graduated (would have been this may). Now I'm kinda like... well shit why am I here again? ... make fun of me all you want for making decisions based on a chick but love has ways of making you do crazy things I'll tell ya...
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Hmm, didn't Lockheed get that new military jet? Makes sense that they are hiring. May check down in Dallas as well. They have a Motorola plant there (hence, name recognition). Only problem is, the Motorola plant is laying off lots of folks and you can be damn sure those folks are applying to Lockheed.

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