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post #1 of 36 (permalink) Old 06-14-2006, 09:46 PM Thread Starter
 
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im too scared to ride my bike now, i kept droping my bike whenever i slow down or trying to park at a crucked street. but i was still riding. then i see this dead body in front of my sister's house skull busted open and blood gushing out of the hole. he had a bike like mine, a bike a year older than mine, only diffrence was it was black. his body was there lying for 4 hours before the cops took it away. his bike was across the block with the helmet still attached on the side of the bike. after that i never really ride my bike anymore. I started just making excuses not to ride, just realized now that Im too scared to ride. any tips or advice to get over it and get back on the bike? That's why I havent been around the forum lately.
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post #2 of 36 (permalink) Old 06-14-2006, 09:50 PM
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I will spook myself sometimes. Especially lately with the rothlesburger thing and all the news about bikes.

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does your bike have a passenger seat? id take it if does, i need the extra space for my schlong!
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Did you ever take the MSF course? Do you have a license? Is your bike too tall for you?

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If you are too scared...get rid of it. You have to be confident & positive when you ride. If you are not, then good luck to you.

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Damn.... scarey story... had to be tough to see that shit!
Yea I dunno, take the course over again if you took it? Ride with someone else? I know I didn't ride on my own at first....rode with someone for about 2 years till I was finally ready to ride alone... and I still teach myself as I ride... practice everything I can, but when I ride I am as confidnet as I can be... just need some practice and some tips!

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If you are too scared...get rid of it. You have to be confident & positive when you ride. If you are not, then good luck to you.
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Not only will it be unsafe for yourself, but unsafe for other traffic. Good luck dude.....
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1) Wear your gear.
2) Get a smaller bike if you still want to ride. The 600cc bike is not a good starter bike.

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Been there myself after a wreck (or 7) and have just taken a little break until I was ready again - If you are meant to ride you will - If you are not then you won't

I have crashed or dropped every bike I have ever owned but I have also been riding since I was 7 - Check my profile, my ass is old - Too me and how I am, it would be more scary for me NOT to ride, if that makes any sense

Just take your time Bro - If it is meant to be, it shall - Plus, ya got a cool free helmet out of the deal, right?

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I've been there before. When I got my bike last year I dumped it twice standing still. It sucked!! Now I am ok starting out. I learned the clutch and what I need to do not to lose balance. I still have plenty to learn and work on. I recently just had what could have been a nasty crash. I got lucky and was able to walk away a little sore and a broken bike. The bike can be fixed though.

What is the part that scares you?
Ending up like guy with is skull split open? If that is the case then I would look at it this way. He's lying there like that cuz he wasn't wearing his lid. So the best thing to do is always wear your gear. Second... Keep your ego in check. Don't do stupid shit.

If you havn't taken the MSF course I also would highly recommend it. Another option, if you have the means, is get a smaller bike. Try to find a 250 and ride that for a season then sell it next year. Riding with someone is also a great idea.
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I thought that this was a joke. (After Dan's ninja post from yesterday) First off, what town is this that they let a guy lay on the floor bleeding for 4 hours? 2nd, take an MSF class, and i suggest that you take the beginner's, intermediate, and advanced classes to get the full knowledge of riding. 3rd of all, get a smaller bike, learn on it, get better with it. IF these things don't help you get rid of the fear, then the last resort is to get rid of the bike. How old are you? you seem kinda young, and i think you rode with the DT crew before?? I wasn't there but uhhh, that was a big mistake dude, you need to ride with people that ride YOUR pace. Good luck...

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All I can say, is wear your gear, be attentive to the hazards and dont ride beyond your means. Ride the bike around your neighborhood for a few weeks if thats what it takes to get confident, and enjoy the ride. Unless you are comfortable on the bike, and enjoying your self, bad shit is gonna happen.

If you cant get over the uneasy feeling, and feel the bike is an extension and that you have complete control, you best bet is to hang it up. Why ride if you dont enjoy it?

Get back on the horse, but take it slow....baby steps....

Also, if the bike is too big for you physically, find a smaller one....its hard to get comfortable in clothes that dont fit you, bikes are the same.

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A 250 navigating in a big empty parking lot will do more for your confidence than any street riding will to get over that fear.

1) it's safer
2) You'll be forced to hone the skill on balance and turning
3) Lots of practice starting/stopping
4) It's safer
5) Did I mention it's safer?
6) Who cares if you dump it, in fact you should a couple more times so you can learn what that feels like prior to it letting go so you can recognize the warning signs BEFORE it happens and learn to bring the bike back off that edge prior.

Start slow, and force yourself to work on turns and smoother starts and braking. Force yourself to tighten those turns in BOTH directions. A lot of people get good going left but suck going right or visa versa.

Once you're comfy going slow and puttering around doing this, add 1-2mph to it and repeat, etc.

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....its hard to get comfortable in clothes that dont fit you, bikes are the same.
Jim may argue the first point - He loves his thongs 3 sizes too small - For that "cozy" feeling

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Yeah ... wear YOUR helmet, and practice not dropping your bike A good strategy is to always ride with someone. 2 or more bikes keep you more visible, and the other rider may teach you a thing or two, while keeping you in check a bit .... I find that as hard as I may ride with a friend, or with a group, I ride harder when I am by myself.

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If you aren't comfortable on the bike you need to either get a different one or stop riding. Better that than having an accident. No one thinks differently of a person for not riding a particular bike.

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Wear your gear... in fact, get a full set of leathers and go do a track day, nothing will boost up your confidence on the streets as much.

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im 22, i always ride with full gear (still using the helmet Bug gave me). i drop my bike when i slow down or trying to stop. only time i crashed while moving(luckly into some bushes) was the first day i got the bike(but i was trying to slow down into a curve when it happened!). yea I did take the MSF caurse and im teepy-toe on my bike, probably why I keep droping it.

considered getting rid of it, but dealer wont take it back (but i honestly dont want to, I WANNA RIDE!) considered getting a smaller bike but I dont have the funds for 1. (if I did what are good tips on storing my CBR for a season?) I do really want to ride, just afraid of crashing.

accident happened by six corners (in front of my sister's apt which is a few blocks from my house (six corners, cicero and irving park)). guy could of survived if he wore his helmet, his helmet was still mounted on the bike on the side.
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Lower link take out dog bone so you can reach.. Take class again, and look for posts on Ken's Free riding classes......

I would assist you in storing bike in the burbs if you needed for a season. If Ken gives a class, I even would let ya use my Rebel 250 CC, but you really need to lower the bike and get used to it. Maybe look for a NINja 250 or Rebel 250 to learn on for a bit then get back to the F4i.

Just some options........

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All you have to do is follow three simple rules. One, never under estimate your opponent (mentality). Expect the unexpected (could work out in your favor). Two, take it outside(or to a table). Never start anything inside the Bar unless it's absolutely necessary. And three, be nice.



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im 22, i always ride with full gear (still using the helmet Bug gave me). i drop my bike when i slow down or trying to stop. only time i crashed while moving(luckly into some bushes) was the first day i got the bike(but i was trying to slow down into a curve when it happened!). yea I did take the MSF caurse and im teepy-toe on my bike, probably why I keep droping it.

considered getting rid of it, but dealer wont take it back (but i honestly dont want to, I WANNA RIDE!) considered getting a smaller bike but I dont have the funds for 1. (if I did what are good tips on storing my CBR for a season?) I do really want to ride, just afraid of crashing.

accident happened by six corners (in front of my sister's apt which is a few blocks from my house (six corners, cicero and irving park)). guy could of survived if he wore his helmet, his helmet was still mounted on the bike on the side.
Well amigo - If you are "tippy toe" than I suggest going to another dealer, looking for a used 500 or even a 2 fiddy, trade your in on it and begin this process all over again - You may take a small hit $$ wise but not too much

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Well, if you really wanna ride, you may want to consider shaving the seat may give you the extra inch or so that you need, or lowering it, lowering has some negative handling charateristics though......but it may be your solution for street riding.

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Also, if ya think you can make it out to Joliet area, on a weekend day I would take ya to JJC and put you through some drills on the MSF course there. But first step would be to lower the bike. I think Brian (Got Triple) in this thread has done a lowering before on an F4i, Pm or post for info and possible help.......

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Life's Journey Is Not To Arrive At The Grave Safely In A Well Preserved Body, But Rather To Skid In Sideways, Totally Worn Out, Shouting "HOLY SHIT... What A Ride!"

All you have to do is follow three simple rules. One, never under estimate your opponent (mentality). Expect the unexpected (could work out in your favor). Two, take it outside(or to a table). Never start anything inside the Bar unless it's absolutely necessary. And three, be nice.



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yeah

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Well, if you really wanna ride, you may want to consider shaving the seat may give you the extra inch or so that you need, or lowering it, lowering has some negative handling charateristics though......but it may be your solution for street riding.

Plus 1 on the shaving seat, Brian I believe also did that on the F4i also for a shorter rider....

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Life's Journey Is Not To Arrive At The Grave Safely In A Well Preserved Body, But Rather To Skid In Sideways, Totally Worn Out, Shouting "HOLY SHIT... What A Ride!"

All you have to do is follow three simple rules. One, never under estimate your opponent (mentality). Expect the unexpected (could work out in your favor). Two, take it outside(or to a table). Never start anything inside the Bar unless it's absolutely necessary. And three, be nice.



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Not too worry about the handling issue, at your level of skill set, I dont see that effecting you doing any railing... Hell the lowered F4i with shaved seat was used on the track and on long long sport touring trips, many miles...

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Life's Journey Is Not To Arrive At The Grave Safely In A Well Preserved Body, But Rather To Skid In Sideways, Totally Worn Out, Shouting "HOLY SHIT... What A Ride!"

All you have to do is follow three simple rules. One, never under estimate your opponent (mentality). Expect the unexpected (could work out in your favor). Two, take it outside(or to a table). Never start anything inside the Bar unless it's absolutely necessary. And three, be nice.



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This is the lowered F4i

As you can see the rider is a smaller petite female (VIVID) member of CLSB former owner of the F4i...Used as example

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Life's Journey Is Not To Arrive At The Grave Safely In A Well Preserved Body, But Rather To Skid In Sideways, Totally Worn Out, Shouting "HOLY SHIT... What A Ride!"

All you have to do is follow three simple rules. One, never under estimate your opponent (mentality). Expect the unexpected (could work out in your favor). Two, take it outside(or to a table). Never start anything inside the Bar unless it's absolutely necessary. And three, be nice.



Turning Shit into Sugar!!

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im 22, i always ride with full gear (still using the helmet Bug gave me). i drop my bike when i slow down or trying to stop. only time i crashed while moving(luckly into some bushes) was the first day i got the bike(but i was trying to slow down into a curve when it happened!). yea I did take the MSF caurse and im teepy-toe on my bike, probably why I keep droping it.

considered getting rid of it, but dealer wont take it back (but i honestly dont want to, I WANNA RIDE!) considered getting a smaller bike but I dont have the funds for 1. (if I did what are good tips on storing my CBR for a season?) I do really want to ride, just afraid of crashing.

accident happened by six corners (in front of my sister's apt which is a few blocks from my house (six corners, cicero and irving park)). guy could of survived if he wore his helmet, his helmet was still mounted on the bike on the side.
I'm 5'6 and i have an 03 RR, tippy toeing is no issue, you just need to learn to position your ass cheeks so that at least 1 foot is flat on the ground. Also, riding in the city is the worst idea ever, there are too many variables that can get you in trouble quicker than you can say oh shit. I dropped my RR the first week i had it, i was parking it and the floor was slanted, and i lost my footing and the bike rolled backwards. (Imagine a midget trying to pick this thing up at 7 am in the morning!! lol, took my weak ass at least 6 tries to pick it up) The only way you'll get better at riding is if you continue to ride. You need to ride with other people who can ride YOUR pace so you can pick up tips, and i would like to teach you since i have a huge parking lot in front of my house, but i just don't want to be held responsible if anything were to happen you, ya know....

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Almost forgot, thicker shoe's help a lot. I got used to wearing Lugz boots to give me some extra height, then afterwards i purchased real riding boots (sidi's) which have less rubber so i lost an inch, , but have not had any problems.

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well how many times have you actually dropped your bike? do you know how to ride a bicycle?

How do you own full gear, but not a helmet? I would suggest that if you are desperate to continue to ride, possibly contact ride chicago (CLSB sponser) about some private training. It's probably much better then if you were to try to do it on your own.

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