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Just a warning to everyone inthe Duapage area. The cops are cracking down on bikers checking for the motorcycle endorsment. On Sunday I had to transport a bike for Clarendon Hills PD because they pulled a guy over for 85 in a 55 and he didn't have the "M" class. They told him he could take it where-ever he wanted but he wasn't riding it to get there. Then I go into work yesterday and there is an 03 R6 Raven edition in the impound because the Dupage county sheriff pulled some kid over that didn't have his "M" class. If you don't already have your motorcycle endorsment you are asking for trouble. Take the time to get it. And if you alreay have it don't worry and ride safe.
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Dumb enough to ride without an endorsement, too bad for him. Good on the dept for impounding it.
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He should have run. Stupid.
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Dumb enough to ride without an endorsement, too bad for him. Good on the dept for impounding it.

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What's the big deal? Get the freaking endorsement!!!

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that's what I don't get, it's not like the test is hard at all
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I got pulled over this morning and all he wanted to see was my license and proof of insurance.

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cops have let that slide for WAY to long it's about time.
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Running is fine if you've got the room to book. A friend of mine just got nailed in Kendall county on monday night. They arrested him for 100 in a 55. It cost him 225 to get his bike out of impound at six in the morning so he could ride home. This was one of the times he didn't run but like he said he takes the good with the bad. This being the bad for all the times he has gotten away in the past. And I forgot to mention the dude on the R6 that got pinched..... he got stopped in traffic by a cop on a bicycle. That would be embarresing as hell. I think at that point it would have been easy to run as long as the cop didn't get the plate.
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can they pull you over just to check your papers? Dont they need a real reason? Not that it matters to me, all my shit is tip top, just curious.

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can they pull you over just to check your papers? Dont they need a real reason? Not that it matters to me, all my shit is tip top, just curious.
The one time I heard of trouble starting was when police had a campaign to pull people over to tell them "Thanks for wearing your seatbelt." and would let them go. I know very few of the details only that they had to cut it out. Though don't know if that's at all related here.
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I think they have to have a reason. That's why they changed the law on seatbelts. Now they can just pull you over to check that in a cage. I was stopped once on my last bike but the cop let me go as soon as he saw it was me since we work with the pd. He just said I accelerated extremely fast off the line at a lite. He never even clocked me. I have had naperville pd run my plates before as I drove through the town. I know that for a fact because a friend ran my plate the next day out of boredom and I had been in naperville the nite before on the bike. But I have never been stopped yet. I don't care though. My stuff is all legit.
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Dumb enough to ride without an endorsement, too bad for him. Good on the dept for impounding it.
I rode for yrs without an "M" Class here in Illinois - If you do not have an "M" Class they HAVE to impound the bike - It is like pulling over a kid (regardless of age) who does not have a Drivers License yet telling him to take the ticket and the car straight home - Tis the law - But, I am guessing just about every person on this board has broken a law at 1 time in their life

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I rode for almost a year with no M class. My friend that got me into riding didn't even get his M class until last year...he had been riding since 98 or so.

Getting the M is a lot easier said than done.
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My friend got rolled on for no reason whatsoever. This is out by Highland Park. HE states that the cop just stared at him as they approched each other, he then busted a u-turn, friend considered runnning but got caught at a light, pulled over, ticketed for no M class, no insurance, and a suspended license. Stupid ass.

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easier said then done? I went to the DMV on my brand new GSXR 1000. (3 months previous experience on a 750). Sat down took the written, went outside took the riding test. Walked out 3 hours later with my M class. The hard part is where????? Laziness is no excuse and if you aren't good enough to pass the riding test you don't need a license you need a MSF class.


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easier said then done? I went to the DMV on my brand new GSXR 1000. (3 months previous experience on a 750). Sat down took the written, went outside took the riding test. Walked out 3 hours later with my M class. The hard part is where????? Laziness is no excuse and if you aren't good enough to pass the riding test you don't need a license you need a MSF class.
I went to the DMV a couple of times, never even got to take the test because it was so packed. Luckily I was able to get in a course because I knew somebody.

And a gsxr1000 is not exactly a hard bike to take the test on. I really wasn't referring to sportbikes.
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easier said then done? I went to the DMV on my brand new GSXR 1000. (3 months previous experience on a 750). Sat down took the written, went outside took the riding test. Walked out 3 hours later with my M class. The hard part is where????? Laziness is no excuse and if you aren't good enough to pass the riding test you don't need a license you need a MSF class.


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I think the hard part that my Kawi friend is referring to getting things going while at the DMV - First, they will just "cancel" testing for no reason - Too many ppl (it is only 1:30 pm) to let any more testers on today - It rained (at 9:30 am and it is now 2:30 and has been sunny and lot is dry) today so no testing - It is a roll of the dice with State Employees

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can they pull you over just to check your papers? Dont they need a real reason? Not that it matters to me, all my shit is tip top, just curious.
Yeah, I don't think they're allowed to pull you over unless you've done somethings to make them suspecious or broken a law, granted, it doesn't take much to do either of those things, but still. If they were to just pull you over because they wanted to check for a class M endorsement, I think it would be harassment or profiling, which as any department will tell you these days, is something they want to avoid.

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The turn in the box test in iowa is impossible to pass on any street legal bike that I have. I took my f2 and the tl out to walk the course and I was full steering lock and could not turn inside the box. It's retarded. The MSF classes here are full until fall of next year...I'll deal with a permit and riding by someone for awhile. Or until I can find a 50 cc scooter to pass the test on...

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The turn in the box test in iowa is impossible to pass on any street legal bike that I have. I took my f2 and the tl out to walk the course and I was full steering lock and could not turn inside the box. It's retarded. The MSF classes here are full until fall of next year...I'll deal with a permit and riding by someone for awhile. Or until I can find a 50 cc scooter to pass the test on...

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can they pull you over just to check your papers? Dont they need a real reason? Not that it matters to me, all my shit is tip top, just curious.
His reason was that he thought I nailed it from a stop light, he was right.

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Yeah, I don't think they're allowed to pull you over unless you've done somethings to make them suspecious or broken a law, granted, it doesn't take much to do either of those things, but still. If they were to just pull you over because they wanted to check for a class M endorsement, I think it would be harassment or profiling, which as any department will tell you these days, is something they want to avoid.
They can run your plate anytime they want. If they see you don't have your "M" Class they will pull you over to check and see if tou are on your bike. That's what happened to me a few of years ago.
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I rode for almost a year with no M class. My friend that got me into riding didn't even get his M class until last year...he had been riding since 98 or so.

Getting the M is a lot easier said than done.
For most it's easier to take a free MSF course or just get the license on your own than to get ticketed and impounded.
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The turn in the box test in iowa is impossible to pass on any street legal bike that I have. I took my f2 and the tl out to walk the course and I was full steering lock and could not turn inside the box. It's retarded. The MSF classes here are full until fall of next year...I'll deal with a permit and riding by someone for awhile. Or until I can find a 50 cc scooter to pass the test on...
Post 4th of July it becomes much much easier to get into the courses as a walk-in. Many will have either lost interest, taken an earlier course, or backed out for whatever reason.
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Post 4th of July it becomes much much easier to get into the courses as a walk-in. Many will have either lost interest, taken an earlier course, or backed out for whatever reason.
Yeah, hopefully i can get into one of those friggen courses!...argh its annoying, hate anything that has to do w/chance

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They can run your plate anytime they want. If they see you don't have your "M" Class they will pull you over to check and see if tou are on your bike. That's what happened to me a few of years ago.
If they run your plate, they don't necessarily get info on you. My car for example, while registered to me is driven much more often by my girlfriend or other friends, if they run the plate, they'll see that it's registered to SmartDrug (yes, it's my birthname), but not to her. I would suspect that unless you had outstanding warrants, that they wouldn't have reason to pull you over... then again, it's your word vs. his/hers when it comes to what you did, and lord knows police never lie.


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