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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 06-16-2006, 02:47 PM Thread Starter
 
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E85 sux ass!

Well ... one of the trucks I have, can run on as much as 100% ethanol. So I threw in a tankful of E85. My truck ran fine on the stufff. It was 10% cheaper than that stations regular unleaded, but only 5% cheaper than other stations in the area .... and my preliminary results are that it is only 66%-75% as efficient as regular unleaded

I was sucking fumes @ 215 miles on the E85 when I regularly get around 300 miles per tank. The current tank is at 1/4 full, and I am at 225 miles on regular unleaded. I know for a fact that I have carried 200lbs more in my truck this tankful, than with E85, and ran the air more. I will report back when I fill up next ... but doesn't look good ...

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post #2 of 22 (permalink) Old 06-16-2006, 02:50 PM
 
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I've heard the same about E85. Fuel mileage sux ass!
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that inefficiency seems a little high. supposedly, e85 gets about 5-15% less mileage or so the proponents says
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Yes it's cheaper, but don't get as much mileage from it. So you give up something to get something.


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Yes it's cheaper, but don't get as much mileage from it. So you give up something to get something.
Yeah .. I save 5% to lose 25%-33%...I'll pass.
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yup, Kruz did some math on this. its only worth it when there is a certain amount of price differance.

the E85 gets burns much quicker as the vehicle needs more of the fuel for each combustion cycle.




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I guess in theory, if more people are using it the less gas we will consume. Gas prices would come down unless we have a shortage of Corn? I would think the cost of it would come down as capacity is increased..

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yup, Kruz did some math on this. its only worth it when there is a certain amount of price differance.

the E85 gets burns much quicker as the vehicle needs more of the fuel for each combustion cycle.

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The other thing I read, It takes more to produce and you can not stuff it down a pipeline.. .meaning:

You have to TRUCK it or RAIL it

KaChing.. more fuel used to move the fuel made...

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The other thing I read, It takes more to produce and you can not stuff it down a pipeline.. .meaning:

You have to TRUCK it or RAIL it

KaChing.. more fuel used to move the fuel made...

Yeah, I'm not liking it, let's move on .

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If I remember correctly, with regular 87 in the $3.50 range the E85 had to be at least $0.40 cheaper per gallon. There is also the "supposed" green benefits of a renewable source but even those claims have its oponents.

The bottom line is that until it becomes mainstream its the best fuel alternative we have. Any process in its early stages of development costs more. As the refinery process is made more efficient and more refineries are constructed those costs will back in line.

Where did I just read that Walmart will begin selling E85?

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if thats the case...maybe i will just look into buying a new benz with deisel at this point....new benz's deisels are topping out more then the unleaded version when it comes to MPG

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The other thing I read, It takes more to produce and you can not stuff it down a pipeline.. .meaning:

You have to TRUCK it or RAIL it

KaChing.. more fuel used to move the fuel made...
that pretty much says it all right there...
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Interesting, go diesel man, provem mileage for the last 40 years. For some strange reason diesel is more than regular here but when I was in TN a few weeks ago it was the same exact price as regular, go figure.

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Interesting, go diesel man, provem mileage for the last 40 years. For some strange reason diesel is more than regular here but when I was in TN a few weeks ago it was the same exact price as regular, go figure.

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I have only been able to test this once as there are no E85 stations in my areas and Im not driving 20 miles or so to get to one. Defeats the purpose. BUt... In my '05 Avalanche I am getting 15.4 mpg avg. on standard fuel. At the time of the test it was $2.89 / gallon. Driving was all highway going up to Minnesotta. Highway miles increased to 15.6 mpg. Found an E85 there. $2.43 / gallon. On th eway back we still maintained the 15.6 mpg. I did not notice any loss in power, pickup, or fuel effeciency.

Now I doubt 1 tank is a good test but this is what I found.

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Rochelle, IL is either putting a refinery in for E85 or it's already up, but all I know is the farmers are banking off of this.

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Rochelle, IL is either putting a refinery in for E85 or it's already up, but all I know is the farmers are banking off of this.

Agree, ADM will shake us down like the middle east. I am happy that many are trying alternatives. Competition is the only way to stop this problem.

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Diesel is where its at. It costs more but better mileage. In an f350 quad cab long box you get anywhere from 15-22 depending on what you are doing. In town its not the best but on the highway I love it. My next car will be a vw Tdi or a GTO...choices choices....

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Brian, I think you should put E85 in the triple. I hear they run great on that.

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