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Official: 7 arrested in Sears Tower plot

By KELLI KENNEDY, Associated Press Writer

MIAMI - Seven people were arrested Thursday in connection with the early stages of a plot to attack Chicago's Sears Tower and other buildings in the U.S., including the
FBI office here, a federal law enforcement official said.

As part of the raids tied to the arrests, FBI agents swarmed a warehouse in Miami's Liberty City area, using a blowtorch to take off a metal door. One neighbor said the suspects had been sleeping in the warehouse while running what seemed to be a "military boot camp."

The official told The Associated Press the alleged plotters were mainly Americans with no apparent ties to al-Qaida or other foreign terrorist organizations. He spoke on condition of anonymity so as not to pre-empt news conferences planned for Friday in Washington and Miami.

Miami U.S. Attorney R. Alexander Acosta said in a statement that the investigation was an ongoing operation and that more details would be released Friday.

"There is no imminent threat to Miami or any other area because of these operations," said Richard Kolko, spokesman for FBI headquarters in Washington. He declined further comment.

FBI Director Robert Mueller, questioned about the case during an appearance on CNN's "Larry King Live," said he couldn't offer many details because "it's an ongoing operation."

"We are conducting a number of arrests and searches" in Miami, Mueller said, which were expected to be wrapped up Friday morning.

Managers of the Sears Tower, the nation's tallest building, said in a statement that they speak regularly with the FBI and local law enforcement about terror threats and that Thursday "was no exception."

"Law enforcement continues to tell us that they have never found evidence of a credible terrorism threat against Sears Tower that has gone beyond criminal discussions," the statement said.

Residents living near the warehouse said the men taken into custody described themselves as Muslims and had tried to recruit young people to join their apparently militaristic group.

The residents said FBI agents spent several hours in the neighborhood showing photos of the suspects and seeking information. They said the men, who appeared to be in their teens or 20s, had lived in the area about a year.

The men slept in the warehouse, said Tashawn Rose, 29. "They would come out late at night and exercise. It seemed like a military boot camp that they were working on there. They would come out and stand guard."

She talked to one of the men about a month ago: "They seemed brainwashed. They said they had given their lives to Allah."

Rose said the men tried to recruit her younger brother and nephew for a karate class. "It was weird," she said.

Benjamin Williams, 17, said the group had young children with them sometimes. Sometimes, he added, the men "would cover their faces. Sometimes they would wear things on their heads, like turbans."

Xavier Smith, who attends the nearby United Christian Outreach, said the men would often come by the church and ask for water.

"They were very private," said Smith, 33. "The spoke with like an accent, sort of a Jamaican accent."

The warehouse owner declined comment. "I heard the news just like you guys," George F. Mobassaleh told the AP. "I can't talk to you."

Gov.
Jeb Bush was briefed on the situation Thursday, according to his spokeswoman, Alia Faraj.

"We have great confidence in the federal, state and local law enforcement agencies who are committed to keeping our country safe," Faraj said.

She added that there has been greater communication between state and federal agencies since the 2001 terror attacks.

Security at the 110-floor Sears Tower, a Chicago landmark, was ramped up after the Sept. 11 attacks, and the 103rd-floor skydeck was closed for about a month and a half.

A spokesman for Gov. Rod Blagojevich said Illinois officials had been in contact with the FBI about the arrests. He would not comment further, referring additional questions to the FBI.

The FBI's headquarters in Miami sits near a residential neighborhood just east of Interstate 95.

A huge crowd up to 250,000 people was expected downtown Friday for a parade to honor the NBA champion Miami Heat. Security measures consistent with such an event were in place, city officials said, and the raids were not expected to affect it.

Several terrorism investigations have had south Florida links. Several of the Sept. 11 hijackers lived and trained in the area, including ringleader Mohamed Atta, and several plots by Cuban-Americans against
Fidel Castro's government have been based in Miami.

Jose Padilla, a former resident once accused of plotting to detonate a radioactive bomb in the U.S., is charged in Miami with being part of a support cell for Islamic extremists. Padilla's trial is set for this fall.

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Associated Press Writer Mark Sherman in Washington, D.C., contributed to this report.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060623/..._investigation

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Is this going to turn out to be another 'mole presented the idea and how-to information and found 7 stupid people who said "Hey, let's do it" type of thing like the past 2 'big deals' ?

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Nah... but I bet they all played Doom and other violent video games... Played dungeons and dragons... and listened to rock and roll...

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couple things.

Sears Towers a target. Well, no duh.

Plenty of stupid people out there. Shoe-Bomber prime example.

I go inside the Sears Tower regularly for business and security isn't that great.
And would you be surprised that Chicago City Hall does no metal detection or X-ray any boxes. That's some shit.
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And would you be surprised that Chicago City Hall does no metal detection or X-ray any boxes. That's some shit.
...and what do you know, you can still go to the museum without undergoing a cavity search! What's the world coming to?

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oh god, there's always one isn't there.

I guess you would have had to work downtown before 9-11 to understand the current heightened security and it's effects.
My point is City Hall is lacking.
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Burn them alive, and film it. Post it on the web or whatever. Let others view it and then let them decide if it's worth it. Seriously. . . burn them!

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What would they be charged with? conspiracy to commit terrorism? Seems like they should have waited until the later stages to arrest them.

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Seas of David. A combination of Christianity and Islam. Well thats crackerjack group of frackers right there.
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oh god, there's always one isn't there.

I guess you would have had to work downtown before 9-11 to understand the current heightened security and it's effects.
My point is City Hall is lacking.

I agree, it would be way too easy to mess some things up down there. I've only seen court buildings with metal detectors and scanners, and some of them are lacking as well.

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What would they be charged with? conspiracy to commit terrorism? Seems like they should have waited until the later stages to arrest them.
They definitely BETTER have PHYSICAL EVIDENCE that they did on their own, not something some mole brought to them and said "Hey guys, I have this buddy who can get us this shit, and we can go do X Y and Z.. .who's in?"

If that's all they have then we start to Usher in the Thought Police.

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What would they be charged with? conspiracy to commit terrorism? Seems like they should have waited until the later stages to arrest them.

+1

They had no bombs or weapons, wouldn't have been smarter to wait and bust them and they're supplier, if they eventually contacted one. Maybe there's no point in busting a supplier, since that would probably be us?

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It's a bunch of bums pissed off in life but had no brains or intent... met with a mole and the best they apparantly have is a head-nod to something that was the mole's idea... No finances changed hands, no materials were ever there in existance..

Boy, it sounds good for election year that we have to be vigilent and keep the status quo of removing your freedoms.

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They definitely BETTER have PHYSICAL EVIDENCE that they did on their own, not something some mole brought to them and said "Hey guys, I have this buddy who can get us this shit, and we can go do X Y and Z.. .who's in?"

If that's all they have then we start to Usher in the Thought Police.

Eventually any contrary point of view to the establishment is punishable.
Exactly.

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Yeah, their closest tie to Al-Queda was the informant, lol.

So the government found some more bumbling idiots.....in Jeb's state- I'm not surprised.
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Boo!

What color code wil this fit under? Oh wait, that was just a scare tactic to support Operation: Freedom.

What's the newest latest fear tactic? I can't keep up.
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Everyone seems to forget the the 911 hijackers had no explosives or traditional weapons, not even "real" knives, just box cutters, yet managed to bring down 2 of the largest buildings in the world, killing over 3000 people. I say arrest as many "crackpots" as they can find, if it proves to be a mistake....oppphs sorry! Before 911, a crackpot scheme would have been to hijack planes with box cutters and fly them into buildings...man we are sure quick to forget. Yes, we are so intent on hating the current president and his party we are willing to forget what history has taught to the point we will repeat it, then say "How could this happen?" Were these people a "true" threat? Who cares! Acted like they were, so they get arrested.....good in my eyes!

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Yes, we are so intent on hating the current president and his party
Patriotism is knowing a bad leader when he sees one.

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"How could this happen?" Were these people a "true" threat? Who cares! Acted like they were, so they get arrested.....good in my eyes!
Oh, you're one of "those people"......that thinks that as long as the government keeps us safe (like Katrina, lol)...you are willing to give up your civil liberties.

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Plenty of trainers were raising red flags in the 90's about the crappy caliber of 'student pilots' from foreign countries both to their respective bosses at the training companies *AND* to the FAA. My FIL personally reported over 3 dozen such 'students' back then while he was a trainer in Miami. It fell on deaf ears and was told "Pass them, they are paying good money for this training". He quit on principle. PDBs indicated intent of using hijacked airplanes as 'missles' and it was known for summits in Europe prior and they were 'on guard' for such actions.

Sending a mole in to 'FABRICATE' an arrestable situation is a complete fucking waste of time and money, not to mention a distraction away from catching the *real* crackpots.

It doesn't matter WHO the current president is or WHAT their party is. This is horseshit.

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Burn them.

Burn them alive, and film it. Post it on the web or whatever. Let others view it and then let them decide if it's worth it. Seriously. . . burn them!
+1 and I consider myself a liberal. Just saw a segment on the CNBC and the max they can get charged with is 35 years. I think people like that should be convicted for treason and either put to death or given life in solitary confinement with no porole. F*ck these as$wipes

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