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A4 or A6

So I am trying to sell my Evo and if it doesn't sell with in a few weeks I am just going to trade it without the mods on it.

I am looking at either the Audi A4 with the 3.0 or the A6 with the 2.7. Does anyone have any experiance with either? From what I have read the A4 is obviously going to be more sporty in the turns and handling department, but the 220HP is lacking. The A6 is big and heavy and more like a caddy in ride quality.

A4 is like a Passat correct?

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have you driven the new 2.0T? I was impressed, even when driven back to back with the six. (A4)

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I can't afford a new one Cook. I am trying to lower my car payment, so I am looking at 2003-2004.

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I've driven both the 2.7tA6 and the A4 3.0 (loaners) and both were great cars. I only drove each for a few days so i really don't have much experience. Although, i favor the A4 avant over the sedan, IMo, it looks better. As for the 2.7t, before i got my 4.2 i was looking at the 2.7t S-line and it is nice, but it lacks the fender flares and the extra HP. Honestly, if i knew what i know now before buying it, i would have either stayed away from Audi's or bought a new one instead. Too many problems. (car is at the dealer at this exact moment, and i just got it back Thursday.) My friends S4 actually has more problems. Something with the coil packs and some harnesses burnign up (yeah, his shit was smokin'!) and it's not being covered by Audi, and the bill is over 1k. Have you looked at the A3? i would go for that instead of a used vehicle.

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What sort of problems have you had Endless? I know about the coilpack issues that they have been plagued with, but anything else major?

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I prefer the 2.7t engine, but they are prone to blowing turbos. Replacing turbos on a 2.7t involves dropping the entire engine out of the car. It gets extremely expensive when you are out of warranty. But you can always upgrade to k04's at that time and squeeze some real nice power out of the car

A3 2.0t is a great car as well. My girlfriend has a GTI with the chipped 2.0t in it and I love it. Power curve is very nice and it has a good amount of get up and go.
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Coilpacks were also a major problem for the Passat a few years ago...same basic car as the A4 I believe. My car had to have all of them replaced..but would they replace them all at one time ? nooooooo..they had to do it every time each one failed.
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Ian.. remember too, we have a freind that works at an Audi dealer.

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Coilpacks were also a major problem for the Passat a few years ago...same basic car as the A4 I believe. My car had to have all of them replaced..but would they replace them all at one time ? nooooooo..they had to do it every time each one failed.
the a4 and jetta are very similar, not the passat. that being said they had lots of problems with the coil packs in the Jetta too.

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the a4 and jetta are very similar, not the passat. that being said they had lots of problems with the coil packs in the Jetta too.
You sure abt that ? I think I distinctly heard this once upon a shiny day. I had an 01 I think it was.

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What sort of problems have you had Endless? I know about the coilpack issues that they have been plagued with, but anything else major?
mostly suspension and steering. (tie rods, control arms, cv boots). Other ecu problems as well. I actually had an issue with some hoses that were fixed last Thursday and the car runs better then when i first got it. If you have your heart set on a used Audi, do yourself a favor and dish out the $300 to have a trusted tech check it over. That Certified Pre-owned / 300 point inspection they say they do doens't mean jack except give the deleaer an excuse to jack up the price. And i also vote for the 2.7t A6. I've seen some with ridiculous amounts of power with ko4's or a Gt28? set up. Owning an Audi is a love it or hate it situation. I love the power and handling it has but hate the upkeep. I've just been lucky that most of the issues have been covered by Audi. My friend is actually looking to get rid of is S4 to get an Evo 9. 1 good thing is, i've driven almost all Audi has to offer except the RS/S cars and the TT. Right now i'm pimpin an 06 A6 3.0. BTW, i have the 4.2 and an oil filter alone is $50+! Good thing is, oil changes are every 8 to 10k.

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I don't consider coil packs a major problem. I've dealt with a couple. The car is still driveable when one goes bad. I've driven 30 miles to a dealer on a bad coil. It sounds like a WRX when they go bad

MAF's and coolant temp sensors are also common items that go bad. As far as catastrophic failures, there isn't very much to worry about except the bad turbos I spoke of.

The earlier longitudal 1.8t's are also prone to sludge, which is not pretty.
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You sure abt that ? I think I distinctly heard this once upon a shiny day. I had an 01 I think it was.

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they share a lot of parts, but size wise I'd put the A4 in jetta territory or just slightly larger but still smaller than a passat. All those VW/Audi's share tons of parts.

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A4 and the Jetta are built on different platforms.

The A4 and the Passat are both built on the B5 or B6 platforms depending on the year. They are more alike than the A4 and the Jetta. The engines in the A4 and Passat are mount longitudal and do not share all that many parts. Overall they are very similar, but in the end very few parts are interchangeable.
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well there you go.


i like the A4, the A6 is a bit too big seeming for me.

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Going to look at an A4 with the 3.0 and a 6 speed manual later tonight. Thanks again guys.

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Ian.. remember too, we have a freind that works at an Audi dealer.

This is good to have. I purchased mine from the Audi Exchange out in Highland Park which is rated like, #2 in the US, but so far those fuckers have fucked me so much you can shove my A6 right up it. So, now i found a trusted tech out in Naperville at Continental Audi. I'd rather drive 200 miles away then go to a dealer that'll blow you off everytime.

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Yeah the problem is that the guy I know is at that Audi Exchange in Highland Park.

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If anyone has a Volkswagen they are having trouble getting serviced, I have a friend who works at the Autobarn in Mt. Prospect who can make sure things go smoothly for you
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One of the cars I wanted to look at is at that Autobarn. Is your guy a salesman or a service guy?

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Yeah the problem is that the guy I know is at that Audi Exchange in Highland Park.
Hmmm, if you know someone there you have a better chance of getting better service. Everyone there hates me, possibly cause i threated to blow up the dealership. j/k. There is one cool cat there, his name is Paul.

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Service...but he always makes sure things go smooth for me on the sales end as well.

Drop me your name and I'll call him and let him know you're coming and to ask for him.
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If anyone has a Volkswagen they are having trouble getting serviced, I have a friend who works at the Autobarn in Mt. Prospect who can make sure things go smoothly for you
Awesome. My bro has an 05 Touareg and it actually just had the alternator replaced. (so early?) I'll hit you up when he runs into to problems at the AB in Evanston.

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Yeah the problem is that the guy I know is at that Audi Exchange in Highland Park.
yup, and he is a tech there which helps even more.

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I say skip the Audi's and get one of these babies.


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Now thats funny as hell. My name is Ian Macdonald, but I will prolly not make it over there until 6 or so.

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I never had any issues with my 2000 S4 w/2.7t. Except normal wear and tear. I put 80K miles on it before I traded it in last month. In that time I did replace the tie rod ends, MAF sensor, and BPV's. No real issues with the car.
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Now thats funny as hell. My name is Ian Macdonald, but I will prolly not make it over there until 6 or so.
What's even funnier is that it has an S4 intercooler. HAHA

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keep the evo!

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Yeah I would love to but the $530 car payment is not fun, nor is its crummy gas mileage.

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