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Anyone Seen These Yet!!!????

And what do you suppose the cost is?????????

Radical new tire design by Michelin. The next generation of tires.

They had a pair at the Philadelphi car show


These tires are airless and are scheduled to be out on the market very soon.


The bad news for law enforcement is that spike strips will not work on these tires.


This is what great R&D will do, and just think of the impact on existing technology:

a... no more air valves
a... no more air compressors at gas stations
a... no more repair kits

These are actual pictures taken in the South Carolina plant of Michelin. It will be awhile before they are available to the automotive industry.
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post #2 of 32 (permalink) Old 07-25-2006, 11:29 PM Thread Starter
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Looks like you would have to buy custom rims to run these things though.

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looks like they call it the tweel...

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Saw that in popular science earlier this year, was waiting to see them actually put on a car. Pretty Sweet!! I bet they'll need different tire changers....in fact, how would you change one of those?! lol

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wow that looks totally weird. it looks like the wheel is so fragile... I wonder how strong they are and how hard you can push the car with those things on...

on a plus note too: you can't bend your rims or bust your hubcaps on the curb when you're botching a parallel parking attempt.
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I would hate to see what happens when they are used in very cold climates. Ever see what happens to plastic in sub zero temps? it shatters.

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That's a good point Chuckie. I also doubt that the homies will be rolling on 24"s with these guys anytime soon, the sidewall looks massive. That Audi looks to be sporting 225/60 14s or similar.

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I'd think that if you hit a curb hard, that it might damage axle because they are stiffer...laterally i think it's called?...so that a lot of the energy is not absorbed like a pneumatic tire would do. Either that or rip it off the rim heheh

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Wow! Those have got to be the ugliest tires. . . ever!

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Saw that in popular science earlier this year, was waiting to see them actually put on a car. Pretty Sweet!! I bet they'll need different tire changers....in fact, how would you change one of those?! lol
I think it's a tire/wheel combination, when the tire is junk you throw out the whole tire AND wheel. I sure hope they put sidewalls on the production version of those things because they sure are ugly .

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So much for changing pressure at the track eh?
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Saw them on SPEED a few times. Tehy run great in adverse conditions as well.

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Very cool, I think the open design is just to show it's makeup. Somehow they would have to close off the honeycomb because it would catch all sorts of debris and they off the balance of the wheel. Very interesting.

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The Armor All guys will never let it happen.....
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So i wonder how well the rims would hold up to chicago POT HOLES? i am sure there has got to be specs on these somewhere.

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That Audi looks to be squatting pretty hard, is that this wierd tire going to mush with the lateral Gs?

Pretty damn cool, but why? Sure you won't get puncture flats, but it still has tread that will wear, and probably costs WAY more than any amount of tire repairs that a normal person would go through during the life of a normal set of tires.
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I have heard.....
-the spokes will be covered (armor guys can relax)
-lateral g's will be better than low profle tires for sports cars
-supposed to eventually be cheaper
-and obvousily wont have to worry about flats

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I saw them. Said they wouldn't be out for years though for the public.

Still, fascinating!
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Yea seen that before, don't remember where though. FUGLY


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So i wonder how well the rims would hold up to chicago POT HOLES? i am sure there has got to be specs on these somewhere.

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Okay, for all those saying this tire is ugly remember that the sides will be covered so it'll likely look like an ordinary tire.

Chuckie, yes some plastic does get brittle at sub-zero temps, but so does rubber. And all the tires we now have are made to handle those temperatures so I'm sure these new wheels will be made to do so as well.

In fact, these will be better at different temps because you don't have to worry about the air in the tire contracting in the cold or expanding in the heat.

Now my question is when they will have this technology for motorcycles.

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Now my question is when they will have this technology for motorcycles.
You be the test monkey, let us know how they work out.

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You be the test monkey, let us know how they work out.

I think that a skilled rider should test them... see what their limits are. I volunteer you.

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I'd buy a set now for my wife's car. I swear if there is a nail on the road within a five mile radius, she finds it and drives over it....
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i dont think they would work for motorcycles, unless you dont want to lean while you turn....

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i believe these will be out for industrial vehicles first. and then down the road actual cars. I thinks it's a good idea, but everybody in this thread brings up some valid points

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Well, remember in the horse-and-buggy forum they were making fun of rubber tires because wooden wheels were the way to go! Not to mention they didn't like 'engines' because they scared their horses!


Very cool technology, I'd love to see how this plays out.
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i dont think they would work for motorcycles, unless you dont want to lean while you turn....

I bet they can develop the technology so that the wheel would be sturdy enough to support a bike in a turn.

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