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going to court saturday morning

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here is my story, some will laugh, others say it's juvinile, hopefully amoungst this I will get some valid opinions advice. About 6 weeks ago I got a letter in the mail saying that I owed the village that I live in money for past due parking tickets. Now the catch is I didn't know that I had past due parking tickets, as these tickets were from 4~5 YEARS ago. The city is trying to charge me for the original fine, PLUS late fees for the entire 4 years, all the while, I was unaware I had past due parking tickets. I am more then happy to pay the parking ticket, and truthfully, the way Westchester works is that if you are late with a parking ticket you pay an extra $10. Like $15 if paid by this date or $25 after. I would happily pay the $75 for the three tickets, however they are asking for over $200. I am not a lawyer, can I go and just reason with the judge, offer a comprimise, I agree to pay $75, which is the original fine plus original assesd late fee. I have been to traffic court, never been to parking ticket court. any ideas?

mind you, I didn't live in westchester during the time of these tickets

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Not sure if these are handled in similar fashion to moving violations, but if they are you may just be able to contact the prosecuting atty. & negotiate directly.

They often prefer to handle matters such as this without consuming the court's/judge's time.
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Sure, go to court and offer them a compromise on the payments. The worst they can do is say no.

Tell them you've moved and didn't get their original mails on the subject.

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Not sure if these are handled in similar fashion to moving violations, but if they are you may just be able to contact the prosecuting atty. & negotiate directly.

They often prefer to handle matters such as this without consuming the court's/judge's time.
i don't know who that person is. When I recieved the letter ALL I got was a phone number to call, when I spoke to the person over the phone, I explained how I was unhappy, the only recourse I had was to ask for a hearing. Which I did. I am curious to know if there is even going to be a prosecutor or just a judge?

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No certified mail no proof it ever got to you. I would have trashed that letter and waited till something official happened.

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All I have to say is pay them. They will come back to haunt you. Don't ask me how I know . Try to bargin with them and give them the sob story but just be prepared to pay the full amont. I know it sucks but get it done.
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No certified mail no proof it ever got to you. I would have trashed that letter and waited till something official happened.

the problem is that for everymonth I ignore I fear they are going to keep charging me fines, I don't want that. I really just want to pay it, truthfully, the police officer that I spoke to over the phone pulled up the records, and the stuff that they were for is possible, no front plate and expired tags. There we times when I didn't have a front plate, and would get tickets for it, it happened, I didn't like it, but I was to stubborn to adorn a front plate, but I always paid the tickets. Now I have grown wiser and slightly more attached to my money (or the concept that with it, one day I might be out of debt) and try very hard to obey the laws more

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All I have to say is pay them. They will come back to haunt you. Don't ask me how I know . Try to bargin with them and give them the sob story but just be prepared to pay the full amont. I know it sucks but get it done.

this is truely what I fear, that the judge is going to say, listen, you didn't pay, I don't care why, pay the full amount and if you bitch you can pay more.

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Not sure....but wouldn't it be btter just to tell you were unawares of said tickets...and your only notification of said ticket was the notification you recieved have in hand, and you wish to clear the matter up ASAP and not be forced to endure finiancial hardship, because of some flaw in the process to adequately inform you of the infractions. When I was in Toronto every month or so, I would file a report to the Canadian Postal System that I suspected my mail was being tampered with....then go to court with such sad "reports" the judge would either "dismiss" the tickets or I would pay the small orginial amount

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Are you going to Westchester court? Meaning like in a town municipal building? If yes, then you will more than likely be able to wheel and deal with the Judge. They will be more than happy to recieve some money rather than no money at all.

I had a similar situation with Berwyn, except i just didn't pay my tickets. Fuckin' street sweeping is a killer. Anyway, I owed about $1200 in tickets and fines, they let me pay half. I got the boot so I kind of had to.

If you're court is at Maywood, i have no advice as I have never went through that process.

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Why don't you go to the police department to see if this is even legitimate? There has been a scam around regarding jury duty notices where someone calls you over the phone saying you missed a jury date and you will be arrested and when you try to get more information they extract your social security number.

Also, there may have been a transposition error in the notice. Or, you might be able to talk to the village attorney there.

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i am sure there will be some assistant da's there handling case files, ask to speak to one of them, explain story quickly and with apology, they should settle with you right there, judge signs off and pay the $$$

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Are you going to Westchester court? Meaning like in a town municipal building? If yes, then you will more than likely be able to wheel and deal with the Judge. They will be more than happy to recieve some money rather than no money at all.

I had a similar situation with Berwyn, except i just didn't pay my tickets. Fuckin' street sweeping is a killer. Anyway, I owed about $1200 in tickets and fines, they let me pay half. I got the boot so I kind of had to.

If you're court is at Maywood, i have no advice as I have never went through that process.
yes it's in westchester's hearing room (same place they do village meetings, type of thing) it's a small town, everybody is pretty friendly, the chief of police is a family friend, and the mayor is a guy who's kids I used to play baseball with as a kid. So hopefully I can just get a slight reduction in fee's and get it taken care of asap.

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Why don't you go to the police department to see if this is even legitimate? There has been a scam around regarding jury duty notices where someone calls you over the phone saying you missed a jury date and you will be arrested and when you try to get more information they extract your social security number.

Also, there may have been a transposition error in the notice. Or, you might be able to talk to the village attorney there.
i did call the village, I spoke to the police department, that is how I requested a hearing.

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i am sure there will be some assistant da's there handling case files, ask to speak to one of them, explain story quickly and with apology, they should settle with you right there, judge signs off and pay the $$$

I will do that, so I should probably try to get there a little early?

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i did call the village, I spoke to the police department, that is how I requested a hearing.
Did you get a copy of the original ticket(s)? That might help figure out what is going on. Were you even in Westchester - even to visit or shop - during that time period? If not, contact a newspaper or media outlet - I've heard of cases like this in the newspaper. It would not hurt to try. If it is happening to you, who knows how many other people are being hit with false tickets. I know the Tribune has "What's Your Problem"; email them at [email protected].

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Did you get a copy of the original ticket(s)? That might help figure out what is going on. Were you even in Westchester - even to visit or shop - during that time period? If not, contact a newspaper or media outlet - I've heard of cases like this in the newspaper. It would not hurt to try. If it is happening to you, who knows how many other people are being hit with false tickets. I know the Tribune has "What's Your Problem"; email them at [email protected].

yeah, I lived in brookfield, and I did move back to westchester at the end of the period of time on the tickets. Also, my parents live in westchester, so it's very possible my car was parked on the street in front of there house. I don't fight the legitity of the tickets, only the way with which I was informed of the tickets, and not being told for four years, there really should be some kind of statue of limitations or something like that.

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just pay it, from the sounds of it, its petty surcharges. youve costed me more with you posting this thread then the surcharges for the parking tickets.

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yeah, just kind of sucks that I always seemed to get hit with things like this at the WORST possible times, 4 years later

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yeah, just kind of sucks that I always seemed to get hit with things like this at the WORST possible times, 4 years later

things could always be worse, imagine if you were a 2 dollar crack whore and had to pay those tickets. the amount of tricks you would need to turn would be painfull to say the least!



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things could always be worse, imagine if you were a 2 dollar crack whore and had to pay those tickets. the amount of tricks you would need to turn would be painfull to say the least!

thats not one thing I ever care to think about.

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then for sure you should feel pretty good after reading that, things are always worse out there.



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I once got a ticket for parking my race bike during the work week, during the day, down in Villa Park. I had to yahoo maps just to find out where it was. The description didn't match the vehicle (black suzuki, but my bike has always been varying shades of red.) I called and talked to them nicely about it. By that time I quit registering the bike and reminded her that if it was THAT bike, surely they would have caught onto it.

Check the vehicle information listed. If it doesn't match (better if it isn't even close), the ticket writing officer transposed a number or two and magically it's yours.

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I once got a ticket for parking my race bike during the work week, during the day, down in Villa Park. I had to yahoo maps just to find out where it was. The description didn't match the vehicle (black suzuki, but my bike has always been varying shades of red.) I called and talked to them nicely about it. By that time I quit registering the bike and reminded her that if it was THAT bike, surely they would have caught onto it.

Check the vehicle information listed. If it doesn't match (better if it isn't even close), the ticket writing officer transposed a number or two and magically it's yours.
like I said, Im not really looking to get out of them, just be fair on the late fees is all.

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Not sure if these are handled in similar fashion to moving violations, but if they are you may just be able to contact the prosecuting atty. & negotiate directly.

They often prefer to handle matters such as this without consuming the court's/judge's time.
+1 to this. You will have to go to court. you can talk to the prosecuter there. It is rare that you will find out the actual prosecuter prior to your actual court date.
If you show the letter that you recieved and state that this is the first time you were aware of the situation. you will prolly get by with just the basic fines (75$) but be prepared to pay the full amount too just in case.

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***UPDATE***

On saturday morning I went to court, when it was my turn to appear in front of the mitagator, both him and the officer for the courts were shocked that the tickets were as old as they were. I plead liable and asked that the courts reduce the late fee's. The court offered to waive them and to allow me to pay the original amounts.

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