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post #1 of 38 (permalink) Old 09-10-2006, 08:28 PM Thread Starter
 
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took the test yeaterday

i took the test yesterday to get my licence and did very bad so im gonna practice and try agian
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did you drop the bike? I did on my test so don't sweat it. It's a hard test on a sportbike.

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no didnt drop the bike just put my foot down to much and stupid shit
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Don't get discouraged. My buddy kept praciceing the course at the Joliet dmv when they were clesed at nite and he was doing good on a gixxer 600. When he went to take the test for real he bombed it. The second time he went he passed with only getting two points against him for putting a foot down. Be patient with it and you will do fine.
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Yeah, it's not as easy as you think. I've been riding for 3 years and i took my buddy a few months ago to get his license and even i couldn't weave through the cones without hitting the 3rd cone. After a few sessions i went did it perfectly. Just hit the cone, much better then putting your foot down. .and good luck BTW!

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Are you talking about DMV test or MSF test? If it was yesterday I would suspect it is an MSF test. Putting foot down 20 times wont fail your test. Come on spill the beans what else you pucker up

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im going to be the asshole, sorry.

Did you take the MSF? You really should. While you might not learn a huge amount about riding, it's an excellent course, and to boot you get your license at the sucessful completion. A 600 sportbike is a tough bike to take the test on, but I have heard many an experienced rider say that you should be able to pass that test on anybike you ride. I have seen people do it on full dresser's. So while everybody else is telling you not to get discouraged. I would like to say, don't get discouraged, but maybe take this as a sign to get some further education, and learn the right way to be a safe rider...

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Did you take the MSF? You really should. While you might not learn a huge amount about riding, it's an excellent course, and to boot you get your license at the sucessful completion. A 600 sportbike is a tough bike to take the test on, but I have heard many an experienced rider say that you should be able to pass that test on anybike you ride. I have seen people do it on full dresser's. So while everybody else is telling you not to get discouraged. I would like to say, don't get discouraged, but maybe take this as a sign to get some further education, and learn the right way to be a safe rider...

There are few things more liberating then riding a motorcycle, however doing it safely, and knowing that your doing it safely, just makes it that much more fun.
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New rider might not be able to take a test on any bike and pass. experienced rider should be able to ace it on ANY bike.

Practicing on the range just to pass the test will only teach you how to pass the test and nothing else. So, go take an MSF class again, if you haven;t alraedy done so. Sounds like you might have missed bit more.

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New rider might not be able to take a test on any bike and pass. experienced rider should be able to ace it on ANY bike.

Practicing on the range just to pass the test will only teach you how to pass the test and nothing else. So, go take an MSF class again, if you haven;t alraedy done so. Sounds like you might have missed bit more.
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Are you talking about DMV test or MSF test? If it was yesterday I would suspect it is an MSF test. Putting foot down 20 times wont fail your test. Come on spill the beans what else you pucker up
On a DMV test first time your foot touches the ground - 2 points, second time I think it is 3 and third time it is 5 or 6 points - you are history at that time.

A friend of mine took MSF class 2 weeks ago and happened to drop his bike on a test during brake exercise.

He already bought a bike, so we practiced on parking lot and went to ride on small side streets about every other day since then and he passed his DMV test on Saturday with flying colors on his Shadow ACE. It helped me as well - I don't think I would go to parking lot to practice any time soon if it was not for him.
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New rider might not be able to take a test on any bike and pass. experienced rider should be able to ace it on ANY bike.
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Are you talking about DMV test or MSF test? If it was yesterday I would suspect it is an MSF test.
Don't start kicking the guy just yet, there were no MSF classes last weekend. At least none that I'm aware of. I know it because, well...

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Don't start kicking the guy just yet, there were no MSF classes last weekend. At least none that I'm aware of. I know it because, well...

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Stas, I haven't started , yet

What you have posted is a bit out of date.

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Damn, i must suck at riding then.
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I failed my first DMV test on my 6R. Took the MSF course and passed that with 0 deductions on a sweet little Nighthawk. I HIGHLY recommend the MSF course for more reasons than just getting a license.
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Stas, I haven't started , yet

What you have posted is a bit out of date.
Er... Do you know if there's an up to date schedule posted somewhere? I'm having a bit of shit luck trying to take a refresher course this year
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Er... Do you know if there's an up to date schedule posted somewhere? I'm having a bit of shit luck trying to take a refresher course this year
Show up and see if you can do a walk in. The weekend I went for mine there were some 13 students that were able to walk in because iof no-shows/empty spots. If my logic is correct, I believe the amount of no-shows increases as you get closer to the end of season. I took the course at COD.

As far as the cones are concerned, you must lean/weave through them. The technique that worked for my friend was to get up a decent amount of speed before you pass the first cone and then cost through the rest. This is just my/his opinion though. It may not work for you. As others have said, go there when they are closed and practice, and do not get discouraged. Good luck. I found that the Plano location is a good place to take the test because the population density is much lower in that area.
Another thing you should not do is show up to take the test without having an M class holder come with you such as the law states when you are riding on a permit. If you need someone to come with you, I would be more than happy to, just try and give me a weeks notice so I can plan for it.

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Er... Do you know if there's an up to date schedule posted somewhere? I'm having a bit of shit luck trying to take a refresher course this year
My crystal ball tells me that you will get in into the class the weekend of 22nd. at GTL.

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I failed the DMV test miserably with my VFR 750. He wouldn't even let me finish the test and said the bike is too big for me. At that time, he was probably right. Granted, I was very new to riding and everyone thought I was nuts to take the test on a sportbike.

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As far as the cones are concerned, you must lean/weave through them. The technique that worked for my friend was to get up a decent amount of speed before you pass the first cone and then cost through the rest. This is just my/his opinion though. It may not work for you.
You got lucky. costing should never happen on the motorcycle. You should always be in control. Not sure who was your instructor at MSF or what ever school you took, but that exsersise should have been stressed the function of a friction zone and how to use it.

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Show up and see if you can do a walk in. The weekend I went for mine there were some 13 students that were able to walk in because iof no-shows/empty spots. If my logic is correct, I believe the amount of no-shows increases as you get closer to the end of season. I took the course at COD.
I know, walk-in is exactly what I am going to do. Like I said it was just shit luck - something was coming up and when I actually went to CLC couple of weeks ago I got stuck in traffic and was way late. Miserable.
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Show up and see if you can do a walk in. The weekend I went for mine there were some 13 students that were able to walk in because iof no-shows/empty spots. If my logic is correct, I believe the amount of no-shows increases as you get closer to the end of season. I took the course at COD.

As far as the cones are concerned, you must lean/weave through them. The technique that worked for my friend was to get up a decent amount of speed before you pass the first cone and then cost through the rest. This is just my/his opinion though. It may not work for you. As others have said, go there when they are closed and practice, and do not get discouraged. Good luck. I found that the Plano location is a good place to take the test because the population density is much lower in that area.
Another thing you should not do is show up to take the test without having an M class holder come with you such as the law states when you are riding on a permit. If you need someone to come with you, I would be more than happy to, just try and give me a weeks notice so I can plan for it.
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My crystal ball tells me that you will get in into the class the weekend of 22nd. at GTL.
You should fix your crystal ball - there's no way I'm spending my birthday evening in the MSF class room (Fri night). But thanks
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You got lucky. costing should never happen on the motorcycle. You should always be in control. Not sure who was your instructor at MSF or what ever school you took, but that exsersise should have been stressed the function of a friction zone and how to use it.
Dont forget the ever neglected rear brake. Clutch out, steady throttle, speed modulation with rear brake.

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Dont forget the ever neglected rear brake. Clutch out, steady throttle, speed modulation with rear brake.

Try it sometime you will be happy you did.
Yeah, lots of people forget the rear brake is VERY usefull.

One thing I would do different is be in the friction zone. The only time clutch is fully out is if I am moving above 5-8mph. You have more control with the clutch been in the friction zone.

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Yeah, lots of people forget the rear brake is VERY usefull.

One thing I would do different is be in the friction zone. The only time clutch is fully out is if I am moving above 5-8mph. You have more control with the clutch been in the friction zone.
The reality is that you may have to use a combination of all, friction zone, rearbrake, and or counterweighting, depending on the size and wheelbase of the bike.

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The reality is that you may have to use a combination of all, friction zone, rearbrake, and or counterweighting, depending on the size and wheelbase of the bike.
Hmm, I find myself using all regardless of the bike. Friction zone is what shupposed to control the speed for the bike to be baby smooth.

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Hmm, I find myself using all regardless of the bike. Friction zone is what shupposed to control the speed for the bike to be baby smooth.
Not me, on my bike for example I only need the rear brake for the cones-no counterbalance or frictionzone.

On my Dads Harley bagger, I have to use all, especially since you cant cut the cones as close cause the bags will hit them.

Dif'rent strokes for different folks I guess.

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