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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 09-22-2006, 10:20 AM Thread Starter
 
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I heard about this stock about 2 yrs ago when they were just getting Phase II FDA approval. The company entered into Phase III and are likely to come out of it mid next year if they get approved.

The company is Northfield Labs and is located in the burbs of Chicago. They manufacture artificial blood based on real human hemogloban. (spelling?) The blood has a much longer shelf life (about 2 yrs I believe), is far more stable than real blood, carries oxygen where the competitive blood substitutes did not, cannot transmit diseases, is not type sensitive meaning anyone is a likely recipient, and more.

They are the only artifical blood company that has gotten to Phase III testing and from my knowledge their product has NOT resulted in the death of a patient like some of their competitors in years past.

They are trading around $10-15 per share. Any traders who know how and what to look for in possible investment options, what are your thoughts?

Also, assuming they get Phase III approval that puts them to full FDA approval and general release to the public, what would that likely do to the value of their stock? This would mean that every trauma center, ambulance company, and likely hospital in the country if not other countries would start using this product. This also has huge advantages for miliatary doctor use as well. How would the stock price end up?

I realize this is pure speculation but I need people who know the finance world better than I do to chime in here.
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First and foremost, assuming all of what you say pans out: Can the company actually keep up if demand skyrockets that much or will they implode on themselves due to being not ready from a business side of the house (and production side) to follow through?

In the short, the stock would probably spike up, then as problems arise, would fall like a brick.

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that is a very good point actually. never thought about hte whole supply demand thing but I would hope that they are ramping up in anticipation for the spike in sales.

they have to know that they are the only one who have made it this far so I would guess they are taking precautions to keep up with deamnd.

i wouldnt look to this as a long term hold like Phizer or anything like that. I am talking about whether it is smart to buy in and wait for the approval and then dump. that is the more likely scenario for me.
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You could always end up buying in and the normal market forces (corporate cutlery as it's called) wind up pulling the rug right out from under them and you're left holding the bag.

Can you even verify the claims of FDA progress through the FDA or are you relying on 'analysts' (who may or may not have a vested interest) and company PR for the information?

Always be skeptical of things that are set up to sound like the stock will 'go to the moon!' *when* X Y and Z happens... and it's spun in a way that it sounds almost inevitable that it will happen.

May be perfectly legit, but it's worth the extra homework and investigation on your side.

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Do you know their ticker symbol? "Northfield Labs" doesn't return any matches.
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Sounds like one of those E-mails I keep getting about a new "great" investment opportunity for a new miracle drug/other bullshit.

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Do you know their ticker symbol? "Northfield Labs" doesn't return any matches.
I found their stock on new york stock exchange under NFLD



i did not get an email about this company. I heard from someone who is a trader that it was something to keep an eye on. My neighbor works for the company also so that is why i all of a sudden thought about the company again.

the information i have is somewhat based on their website and PR propoganda but i made a lot of the assumptions about where they will go when they get approval on my own so take that with a grain of salt.

Its not hard to figure out. Person gets in bad car reck and is losing a lot of blood. Ambulance gives fake blood to person to get them to hospital alive so real blood can then be administered. It is gives people a fighting chance to survive and it gets FDA approval, what would be a reason that they wouldnt pick it up. Increasing a persons ability to survive a trauma situation creates a market for the product. Think of what the miliatary could do with it also.

That is how I came to my conclusion about how it might be adopted. Granted I dont know all the facts about whether or not there are side affects but I havent heard anything. I was told 60 Minutes did a scathing report on this company and all they came up with was the fact they were testing their product on patients who were hurt so badly they couldnt refuse to be a test subject.
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personally I think it's to rich already for a company losing $$$ by the day. If it pans out great. but this is a speculative play. If you do it I would find a few other speculative plays and split the money among them so hopefully one pans out. If you want to invest there are much better ways then trying to find the "next big thing"

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Traders often put out viral attempts to stir up attention in a stock they (or their institution) are underwater with

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Traders often put out viral attempts to stir up attention in a stock they (or their institution) are underwater with
that i could see being true.
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that i could see being true.
from an institutional standpoint I would NEVER do that!!!! I like my freedom. I'm sure it happens with prop desks and broker dealers that take on positions though

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dangerous...have you invested in medical companies before? the popular ones get swallowed up by the big players, a few struggle down low, and a ton seem to end up on the pink sheets

if you're into investing, you should check out these books. not tied into personal investment recommendations or anything like that, but awesome books anyways!

"Blood on the Street" by Charles Gasparino

"Confessions of a Street Addict" by Jim Cramer

Cramer has a show on some news channel, can't remember which. "Mad Money with Jim Cramer" is the name. the guy is a lunatic, but when it came to the Cramer/Berkowitz hedge fund, he was an absolute genius. in my opinion, he made some of the best calls on the market for the time.

oh yeah! one more i can't forget if you're interested...

"Going South" by William Cast

think you can tell what i like? i don't know what it is about reading about corporate shadiness, but it gets me going! i have a huge library of corporate books. Healthsouth, Fed Ex, Wal Mart, jetBlue, you name it...
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I thought this was going to be a "Boiler Room" appreciation thread.
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I thought this was going to be a "Boiler Room" appreciation thread.
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Cramer has a show on some news channel, can't remember which. "Mad Money with Jim Cramer" is the name. the guy is a lunatic, but when it came to the Cramer/Berkowitz hedge fund, he was an absolute genius. in my opinion, he made some of the best calls on the market for the time.

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I'd be careful with Cramer, there is a reason he's not in the business anymore and moved to the media. They profiled his picks in the WSJ recently and it wasn't that great

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like any stock ,supply and demand+the ability to supply will be a factor plus licensing of the process to increse supply as it is implemented wil mean that the stock will eventually be quite valuable, in the long run that is short term ,maybe because it can be used and a universal blood type for patients that have unusual phenotypes in their blood.

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