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Surround sound system recommendation

This winter I'll be dropping up to $1600 on a new surround sound system. Primary use will be for movies/tv/gaming... rarely for music.

I'm currently considering the Bose $1000 speaker package, and a $500 Denon receiver.

Any recommendations? Does anyone know where I can test the difference between the $1000 Bose speakers, and the $700 set?

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Why bose, size reasons? There are much better options in that price range, even if you want micros sized units. Don't buy into the hype. I highly recommend you do some research on AVSforum and don't mention Bose. haha!

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Dammit Cookie you beat me to it again. I would not buy Bose if my life depended on it.

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Spend half as much on a nice Harman/Kardon system, Bose is overrated.

I spent just over $200 on a factory-refurbished, warrantied HK receiver, and about $300 on the HKTS 8 surround system and it sounds awesome. I'd personally look at their higher-end stuff if you want to drop some coin.

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For that type of budget you can get a lot. +1 on Bose not being that great. I bought some high end Infinity's years ago over Bose speakers that cost 45% more. Did a side by side comparo and the Infinity's blew them away, the Bose just looked cooler.
I would go to Tweeter or Frys to actually hear them in person but here is my quick suggestion:
Theater speaker set:
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-Yp66Puo...0&I=700P5PPS12
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You can actually find a lot of quality stuff even cheaper but I shot high since you had the budget. Realistically you should be able to get something you would be very happy with for under 1k.

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Bose is 'nice' but as far as sound goes...I would not buy another one. I miss my midrange It is also way overpriced.

I can't recommend which to get because everyone's ears and tastes are different but certainly do go out and LISTEN to what YOU want to use it for. Really take your time in that step of the process because it's what you'll have to put up with once it's all said and done and installed.

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I'm not an AV freak but I happen to have a bit of practical advice from the experience. Go into some store that has a room full of speakers connected to test panel, do NOT look at the prices and names and just listen to different models. I did that couple of times and I was shocked to find that some $250 speakers sounded way better than some of their $1000 counterparts (specifically, Bose).

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okay....

I am not an audio or video freak... I have a nice 5.1 setup in my living room and hopefully next week my basement will have one as well. Both systems were purchased for less then your budget, and both sound fantastic (to my ears, others would complain, but I did both sets for total less then you want for one)

The Athena Micra system, it's $350 from amazon and it sounds really nice... If you like the little speakers, check out this one, it's $600 from best buy, but onlye $350 or $400 from amazon, nice speakers. If size isn't a consideration, I have a few of the JBL northridge speakers in my basement (not the entire system couldn't afford the front channels) but they are the only cost effective 3 way center channel. Remember that in movies and games the center channel is the most important speaker, don't over look it. Also, if you get a new reciever consider going to a 6.1 / 7.1 setup, the rear center channel is nice, even if most current media is recorded in 5.1. Also, get a sub that is big enough for your room, I cheaped out and bought the smaller JBL sub, and while it's plenty loud enough, it doesn't give you the feel of the sub for the size of the room as it should have.

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+1 on getting a sub to fill your room, in movies and playing video games it adds a ton of depth to your experience. That and i just love to rock the bass anyway, my dual 12" might be overkill for what your going for.
as far as a reciever im rockin with a yamaha 7.1 I know there are some yamaha haters out there but in my opinion they make a great product with excellent sound quality at a good price point
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Is there a retail site (with prices) out there that does a decent job of explaining the basics of home audio? Crutch, Tweeter, etc.

Im gonna pick up something nice over the winter as I build my HT.
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Is there a retail site (with prices) out there that does a decent job of explaining the basics of home audio? Crutch, Tweeter, etc.

Im gonna pick up something nice over the winter as I build my HT.
i like ecoustics.com

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Thx for the advice so far!

Yes, the original reason I chose Bose was due to size of the rear speakers. I have my current set mounted to the ceiling and they're a bit clunky, and unattractive.

I'm definitely going with a 7.1 receiver... but a 5.1 speaker set for now.

This will be the 3rd system I've bought in 10 years. I've got cheap all 3 times, and have suffered problems because of that... hence the price range. I'm looking for quality of components as well as quality of sound.

Oh, and I know what you're talking about with price not always being a good indicator. I have outdoor speakers, was willing to spend up to $500 for a good pair. The best set I found cost $30... and after 2 years they still sound perfect.

The last time I was at Fry's, their system was damn near unusable. You'd request Speaker A, and you'd get Speaker C. I'll try 'em again though. I work out at the X-Sport right beside 'em.
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Thx for the advice so far!

Yes, the original reason I chose Bose was due to size of the rear speakers. I have my current set mounted to the ceiling and they're a bit clunky, and unattractive.

I'm definitely going with a 7.1 receiver... but a 5.1 speaker set for now.

This will be the 3rd system I've bought in 10 years. I've got cheap all 3 times, and have suffered problems because of that... hence the price range. I'm looking for quality of components as well as quality of sound.

Oh, and I know what you're talking about with price not always being a good indicator. I have outdoor speakers, was willing to spend up to $500 for a good pair. The best set I found cost $30... and after 2 years they still sound perfect.

The last time I was at Fry's, their system was damn near unusable. You'd request Speaker A, and you'd get Speaker C. I'll try 'em again though. I work out at the X-Sport right beside 'em.
consider in ceiling / in wall speakers as well, these are viable options as well. Klipsch, JBL, and a few others make decent in wall / ceiling options... They are a little more difficult to install because you have to bury the wire and cut big holes in your ceiling / walls, but they are a viable option and you can get nice rear set sound from them...

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consider in ceiling / in wall speakers as well, these are viable options as well. Klipsch, JBL, and a few others make decent in wall / ceiling options... They are a little more difficult to install because you have to bury the wire and cut big holes in your ceiling / walls, but they are a viable option and you can get nice rear set sound from them...
considering the rears are mostly effect and fill channels I'm inclined to agree. Though there are some timbre issues, I'd try to stay with the same manufacturer at least.

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consider in ceiling / in wall speakers as well, these are viable options as well. Klipsch, JBL, and a few others make decent in wall / ceiling options... They are a little more difficult to install because you have to bury the wire and cut big holes in your ceiling / walls, but they are a viable option and you can get nice rear set sound from them...
Many are quite simple to install in the walls. Just run the wires around the walls underneath the beaseboard, and drive a small hole behind the baseboard directly below the speaker.

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considering the rears are mostly effect and fill channels I'm inclined to agree. Though there are some timbre issues, I'd try to stay with the same manufacturer at least.

if you play alot of video games, you tend to get voices and clear sound effects from behind you, but movies you are right, usually they are primarily for effect.

vCook what are your thoughts on these new all in one speaker packages. Yamaha has a few out like this
http://www.yamaha.com/yec/ysp1/idx_products.htm

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if you play alot of video games, you tend to get voices and clear sound effects from behind you, but movies you are right, usually they are primarily for effect.

vCook what are your thoughts on these new all in one speaker packages. Yamaha has a few out like this
http://www.yamaha.com/yec/ysp1/idx_products.htm
they're neat. Interesting solution for those with space limitations or a wife that doesnt want boxes around the room. They're not cheap though, and for what they cost I'd be surprised if they were anywhere close to a competent 5.1 system of the same price.

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If and when the time comes to re-do the AV room, I always have Onkyo on the list of manufacturers...

http://onkyousa.com/model.cfm?m=HT-S...ss=Systems&p=i

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Denon, Onkyo, HK, Yamaha are all good brands.

I've got Boston Acoustics for speakers. Klipsch also good.

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Make sure you go with recieve that has HDMI connections for DVD and TV. Speakers are personnal think you need go out and shop and listen. Everyone has different taste in sound types. There is different in sound from JBL to Martin Logan. So go out and listen to speakers may fine you may want something that cost more.

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