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Attention all stunters that ride on the streets!

I know this is Chicago's forum but this might apply to you too.


Missouri has just proposed a bill to classify stunting in it's own crime!! With the passing of this bill it will no longer make it a CNI and the outcome is a whole lot harsher in the end. It goes as follows:


Section A. Chapter 304, RSMo, is amended by adding thereto one new section, to be known as section 304.667, to read as follows:

304.667. 1. A person commits the crime of motorcycle stunt driving if such person operates or is a passenger on a motorcycle on the roadways of this state and while operating or being a passenger on such motorcycle performs a dangerous stunt.

2. As used in this section a "dangerous stunt" means any dangerous activity by the operator or passenger of a motorcycle which is being operated on the roadways of this state, including but not limited to the following:

(1) Standing on the seat, frame, or handlebars of a motorcycle;

(2) Performing handstands on the seat, frame, or handlebars of a motorcycle;

(3) Operating a motorcycle on one tire; or

(4) Removing both hands from the handlebars while operating the motorcycle.

3. Motorcycle stunt driving for a first offense is a class C misdemeanor unless the motorcycle did not have a license plate, in which case it is a class A misdemeanor. For a second offense motorcycle stunt driving is a class A misdemeanor unless the motorcycle did not have a license plate, in which case it is a class D felony. For a third or subsequent offense motorcycle stunt driving is a class D felony.



Everyone that lives within MO should write your representative and try to have this bill abolished before it screws us!!

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If you don't live in MO, you might checkout your states proposed bills, cuz I was told this is going to happen nation wide!!

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(3) Operating a motorcycle on one tire; or

(4) Removing both hands from the handlebars while operating the motorcycle.

Well then I'm definitely an icy hot stunna.
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that is a fucked up law...but the no hands on the bars?...it doesnt state anythign about being at rest and just sitting at a light...some cops might go too far with that.

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Screw it, who cares?

Damn motorcycle folks should ALL stay off the road.

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that is a fucked up law...but the no hands on the bars?...it doesnt state anythign about being at rest and just sitting at a light...some cops might go too far with that.
+1 The more power you give them, the easier it is for them to take our bikes.

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(1) Standing on the seat, frame, or handlebars of a motorcycle;[/B]
That reminds me, damn glad I got that tank smashed in so I can stand on it!

I gots ta be legal, ya know! OR screw that... I could just stand on my 12 Bar.

Nah, that won't work, that front wheel might come up a tad...

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+1 The more power you give them, the easier it is for them to take our bikes.
Not a stunter, and I don't agree with people stunting in traffic and such,
but there are enough laws to put you away already if enforced.

Part of the issue is it is someones Job to create new Laws.


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The pegs are on the frame, so if I stand up to fix my junk or pull down my jacket, or take my hands off the bars for a second to stretch my back, I'm stunting? Lame.

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The pegs are on the frame, so if I stand up to fix my junk or pull down my jacket, or take my hands off the bars for a second to stretch my back, I'm stunting? Lame.
Exactly why the more laws on the books, the easier they are to be abused by ignorant pigs. Law enforcement has a bad enough reputation when it comes to certain things, by giving them more laws, you risk the stupid cops taking advantage of the situation and making that reputation even worse. As the saying goes, give them enough rope and they'll hang themselves.

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Dumb f*&king law. I am the farthest thing from a stunter, but I do sometimes take both hands off the bars, pull down my jacket or stand up. How about ticketing these people that cannot talk on their cell phone and drive? I am one of those, so I do not do it.
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304.667. 1. A person commits the crime of motorcycle stunt driving if such person operates or is a passenger on a motorcycle on the roadways of this state and while operating or being a passenger on such motorcycle performs a dangerous stunt.
Even more extreme... If some girl's boyfriend pulls a wheelie she can get up to a felony!?!?!

I'm hoping that this will catch one of the representative's eyes and get this thrown out.

What next? I can get a ticket for speeding while sitting shotgun?!?!

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For #4 removing both hands, that's talking about "while operating the motorcycle." When you're sitting at a light you're not "operating the motorcycle." So if a cop gets you for that he won't have a leg to stand on.

Anyway, stunters brought this law upon themselves. Stunters draw too much attention to themselves pulling that crap in traffic on interstates and busy roads. You guys got enough people to write in and ask for a new law.

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For #4 removing both hands, that's talking about "while operating the motorcycle." When you're sitting at a light you're not "operating the motorcycle." So if a cop gets you for that he won't have a leg to stand on.

Anyway, stunters brought this law upon themselves. Stunters draw too much attention to themselves pulling that crap in traffic on interstates and busy roads. You guys got enough people to write in and ask for a new law.

Good job stunters.

+1

I really don't think this law is going to effect anyone BUT stunters.

Some of the shit I've witnessed being done in traffic deserves to be stopped and locked down. If you drive down the road like a normal person you have nothing to worry about. There is a time and place for stunting. I've witnessed many guys on bikes acting like a clown on a circus bike going down I55. One word = MORONS. Don't act like a circus clown on the road and you'll have no worries.

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Any group of people that behave in a manner that scares / endangers the
public and taunts the law enforcement community is going to get this kind
of attention.

Personally, I have been forecasting this sort of thing for years.

Now I am not talking about stunting on private property or out in the
country on back roads, I am taking about the morons that do 100MPH
group stand-up wheelies in traffic on RTE 53 at 12:00 on a Saturday
in shopping traffic. I am taking about the entire FTP / Starboyz video
series and the messages it sends.

Stunting requires real skill, doing it on the street requires a serious lack
of social consciousness and a lack of regard for the sport of motorcycling.

Idiot stunters are harming our public image, this is the result.

Go on, stunt...... Hey, invite me to watch, it's a riot !

Do it on private property or we ALL suffer.


This poorly written law and laws like it will impact our ability to enjoy
the sport of motorcycling.


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For #4 removing both hands, that's talking about "while operating the motorcycle." When you're sitting at a light you're not "operating the motorcycle." So if a cop gets you for that he won't have a leg to stand on.

Anyway, stunters brought this law upon themselves. Stunters draw too much attention to themselves pulling that crap in traffic on interstates and busy roads. You guys got enough people to write in and ask for a new law.

Good job stunters.
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I really don't think this law is going to effect anyone BUT stunters.

Some of the shit I've witnessed being done in traffic deserves to be stopped and locked down. If you drive down the road like a normal person you have nothing to worry about. There is a time and place for stunting. I've witnessed many guys on bikes acting like a clown on a circus bike going down I55. One word = MORONS. Don't act like a circus clown on the road and you'll have no worries.
+1 stunters can only screw around in traffic for so long before the government takes notice, obviously somebody pissed off the wrong city official down there. probably wheelied past his minivan one night on the hiway




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Funny, cuz seems to me we've already got enough laws on the books...

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having this posted from a person whose sig says they live life as a bad example somehow doesnt call me to arms.


Its like a G-Thug gangsta complaining about tighter gun and drug laws.



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I really don't think this law is going to effect anyone BUT stunters.

Some of the shit I've witnessed being done in traffic deserves to be stopped and locked down. If you drive down the road like a normal person you have nothing to worry about. There is a time and place for stunting. I've witnessed many guys on bikes acting like a clown on a circus bike going down I55. One word = MORONS. Don't act like a circus clown on the road and you'll have no worries.
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For #4 removing both hands, that's talking about "while operating the motorcycle." When you're sitting at a light you're not "operating the motorcycle." So if a cop gets you for that he won't have a leg to stand on.

Anyway, stunters brought this law upon themselves. Stunters draw too much attention to themselves pulling that crap in traffic on interstates and busy roads. You guys got enough people to write in and ask for a new law.

Good job stunters.
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+1 stunters can only screw around in traffic for so long before the government takes notice, obviously somebody pissed off the wrong city official down there. probably wheelied past his minivan one night on the hiway
+1 get your licenses taken away or pay the fines so you can't afford to ride anymore. either way being around fewer idiots on the roadway who don't think about the safety of the other vehicles works for me.
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This law would have it's good and it's bads. While it will keep the stunters off the roads and keep them and the public safe, but I think somehow this would affect us all in some way or another. It just gives more reason for cops who are biased against motorcyclists to pull people over for the little things. I take my hands off my bike when I have to readjust my jacket and I stand up to get the boxers (thongs, tidywidies whichever you guys wear) unstuck from my ass crack (I hope this isn't just me ), it's just these little things that would give cops more power trips!!

Also isn't there laws in IL already that prohibit riding on one wheels and stunting on public roads? I'm guessing maybe they didn't have a law in the state of MO.

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having this posted from a person whose sig says they live life as a bad example somehow doesnt call me to arms.


Its like a G-Thug gangsta complaining about tighter gun and drug laws.






Btw, imma Class C straightup Stunta4Lyfe, Sometimes ill even adjust my helmet with both hands. Dun mezz wit da best!
Hey I am just trying to give everyone a heads up with this bill. Oh and I never said I was a saint and never did anything on the street. If most of you realized these laws are already covered under the CNI or Reckless Driving laws in most states. Only this one is getting a little outlandish with going with Felony offenses. Not only that the bill leaves alot wide open to attack those who don't do stunts but only do things as habit cuz we riders have to adjust and relax after long rides.

Also, what I have seen on here are the high and mighty "I don't stunt there for I am superior to you" members. To you I say this: Did you buy your bike to do speed limits, never cross yellow (do not pass) lines, or never break high double to triple digit speeds? If you did then I feel sorry for the bike and I wonder why you got off your huffy. But if you can say yes to any or all of the above, you are not a saint either. Now this is not a personal attack, but I do have to say something since most of you will attack a stunter before you know what skills they do possess. I'll be honest and up front with all of you, I do stunt, and yes sometimes I do it on the streets and not in a parking lot. But at the same time, I don't do it during rush hour or with on coming traffic. I am much smarter than that. At the same time if there is a car next to me with a kid in it all excited to see something, I cruise up and make sure the driver/parent gives me a thumbs up before I do anything. Some of us aren't dumb asses.

As for the Bad eXamples! in my sig and under my Avatar, that's my crew name and slogan. Doesn't mean I am one. Oh to also let you know, most of my crew are sponsored Shriners too. Oh [email protected] shame on us.

Again, this thread was just to give you all a heads up cuz sooner or later it's going to affect us all no matter how you ride!!

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Yes I bought my Ducati to do tripple diget speeds and ride as hard as friggin possible, of course it has no lights and shitty looking bodywrok and spends its time on the track. On occasion when I put the stock stuff back on and ride it on the street, I ride it very tame. Or I take the Harley out and ride it fairly tame. The road isn't a race track, sorry but no speachs about safety or getting thumbs up is gonna change that. Now this thread is going to go nowhere we haven't been before in numerous threads, it's an old argument with nothing new to be added. Thanks for giving us a heads up about the new law. Thread is being closed to prevent useless drama.




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