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MTV approves the Kentucky Kid

I have mixed feelings about this. I used to be a NASCAR fan, before it turned into what it is today, specifically because of the change in format, coverage and rules to accommodate pseudofans...now i know that won't happen with the FIM, but I somewhat fear the "pseudo"fans that could pop up everywhere after this series. Imagine the liter bike sales for '08

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MTV has approved the Pilot series of 'The Kentucky Kid' with plans for an initial eight episode run
February 6th, 2007


After over 8 months in planning, pre-production and creating the eventual Pilot, MTV focus groups gave the go ahead to the new MotoGP series ‘The Kentucky Kid” . Production will commence immediately with an 8 part series planned to be aired late in the 2007 season. It is hoped that this new series will bring MotoGP to the mainstream within the USA.

The idea originally conceived by Anthony Gordon of Nothin But Shorts International and Phil Baker, Nicky’s Manager at International Racers in Irvine California has finally come to fruition. The pilot is said to be a first for MotoGP in the USA.

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oh great, nicky wasn't getting enough poontang in europe already, now he's gonna clean house in the states too! lol

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Sorry Cerk but I feel it's needed. I mean marketing is marketing and to broaden your fan base you have to do things like this sometime. I mean NASCAR was just the hillbilly sport and if you weren't one you weren't welcomed. Now it's broken that image and it's been great. Fan base is large and it's been the one sport that has the largest viewing at one time than any other sport (outside of the World Series and Super Bowl).

Hopefully it just won't become saturated and stupid like some Fast and Furious b.s.

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I think it's a great idea and I look forward to watching it. Unfortunately I don't think it will improve MotoGP's popularity in the states very much.
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Sorry Cerk but I feel it's needed. I mean marketing is marketing and to broaden your fan base you have to do things like this sometime. I mean NASCAR was just the hillbilly sport and if you weren't one you weren't welcomed. Now it's broken that image and it's been great. Fan base is large and it's been the one sport that has the largest viewing at one time than any other sport (outside of the World Series and Super Bowl).

Hopefully it just won't become saturated and stupid like some Fast and Furious b.s.
Therein lies my fears...NASCAR is nothing like it used to be. They've turned it into a reality series...filled with gossip, rules changes and non-passing crash fests. All to accommodate a changing fan base that weren't really race fans. They had to change things to maintain interest. Now they've done very well for themselves, but the racing has suffered. Most of the drivers agree (at least the ones around prior to the explosion in popularity)...now many of the historic tracks have or will be abandoned to move to larger markets with cookie cutter tracks. It's a shame, and i'd hate to see something similar happen with GP...of course, i'm an over-reactionary moron, soooo

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So many NASCAR fans are fans of the Soap-Opera that surrounds the sport.

The drivers, their wives, their families, bass-boats etc....nothing to do with
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That or they just need an excuse to tailgate.

This mainstream attention will be fickle at best.....


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Therein lies my fears...NASCAR is nothing like it used to be. They've turned it into a reality series...filled with gossip, rules changes and non-passing crash fests. All to accommodate a changing fan base that weren't really race fans. They had to change things to maintain interest. Now they've done very well for themselves, but the racing has suffered. Most of the drivers agree (at least the ones around prior to the explosion in popularity)...now many of the historic tracks have or will be abandoned to move to larger markets with cookie cutter tracks. It's a shame, and i'd hate to see something similar happen with GP...of course, i'm an over-reactionary moron, soooo
I Have mixed feelings on this as well and agree with a lot of what you are saying,

I used to enjoy nascar as well until they decided to make it "politically correct"

The industry probably could use the advertising and I'll bet Nicky is a good person for this.

The other side of this is it could be very distracting for him and his championship drive.

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Therein lies my fears...NASCAR is nothing like it used to be. They've turned it into a reality series...filled with gossip, rules changes and non-passing crash fests. All to accommodate a changing fan base that weren't really race fans. They had to change things to maintain interest. Now they've done very well for themselves, but the racing has suffered. Most of the drivers agree (at least the ones around prior to the explosion in popularity)...now many of the historic tracks have or will be abandoned to move to larger markets with cookie cutter tracks. It's a shame, and i'd hate to see something similar happen with GP...of course, i'm an over-reactionary moron, soooo
I agree with the stupid rule changes. I mean it's a freakin' race so let them race! But I don't think that it will get to a point of building more tracks and stuff like that. I mean there are plenty already. lol I get bugged that every new season or every other season it's new rules. That's been my only bug.
Still, it's a wait and see kind of thing. Fans have big say so and true fans won't tolerate too much. And their voices will be heard.

The most important part is that Jimmy Johnson beat Earnhardt. Jeff Gordon being partner and owner made my year. But of course, this is off topic now.

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I don't think MotoGP will be changed by any US involvement. Considering its massive popularity outside out borders, I don't think MTV and the US culture can change that. If it gets a second event in the USA, and better TV coverage (i.e. LIVE HD coverage of the USGP) then I'm all for it.

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I disagree with the "Look what happened to Nascar" idea. While they share the simliarity of having numbers on their rides, that is about all they share. They both have two completely different fan bases. Rednecks, and I mean TRUE rednecks, don't care about Japanese bikes or anything that is associated with them. The people that SHOULD be watching this show, are the teenagers and older who love bikes and want to watch it wherever they can. And why shouldn't we want as many people as possible watching this sport?!? I would love to be able to go to a bar or restaurant and watch these races, like we can for Nascar, and I don't really care if there's a Fast and the Furious crowd watching it right next to me.

Just my but right now nobody that I come into contact with knows what the hell Moto GP or the AMA is, and I'm happy as hell Nicky has this show to get the word out so it can help eventually make itself a name here in America. Shit, most guys I ride with haven't even heard of the races I go to.

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I don't think MotoGP will be changed by any US involvement. Considering its massive popularity outside out borders, I don't think MTV and the US culture can change that. If it gets a second event in the USA, and better TV coverage (i.e. LIVE HD coverage of the USGP) then I'm all for it.

I think we sometimes forget we aren't the only people in the world
Definately agree with this. Moto GP is HUGE everywhere else, and I don't think an MTV show would change the entire sport, mainly because everywhere else that they hold races already have these fans that we're trying to reach.
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I don't think MotoGP will be changed by any US involvement. Considering its massive popularity outside out borders, I don't think MTV and the US culture can change that. If it gets a second event in the USA, and better TV coverage (i.e. LIVE HD coverage of the USGP) then I'm all for it.

I think we sometimes forget we aren't the only people in the world
+1 for that. We might get more idiots on the street but america is a very small portion of the fanbase

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I think the show jumped the shark before it even aired.

Not many people find entertainment in motorcycle racing beyond crashes. I can't get even my most sports loving friends to watch more than 10 minutes of MotoGP or Motocross/Supercross. If you don't get it, you don't want to watch it. The only way they will get the American public to watch this is to have Nicky blowing lines off the umbrella girls chests, while some bickering dysfunctional family builds his RCV212 out of scrap metal, and then sends it over to a group of gay guys to give it a stylish "makeover." Throw in some wifeswapping, some cornerworkers eating live cockroaches, some pitcrew getting drunk and shocking each others scrotums with tazers and you might have a winner here.

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...now many of the historic tracks have or will be abandoned to move to larger markets with cookie cutter tracks. It's a shame, and i'd hate to see something similar happen with GP
Too late. Its already happening. I would worry much more about MotoGP ending up like F1 then NAPCAR.

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I think the show jumped the shark before it even aired.

Not many people find entertainment in motorcycle racing beyond crashes. I can't get even my most sports loving friends to watch more than 10 minutes of MotoGP or Motocross/Supercross. If you don't get it, you don't want to watch it. The only way they will get the American public to watch this is to have Nicky blowing lines off the umbrella girls chests, while some bickering dysfunctional family builds his RCV212 out of scrap metal, and then sends it over to a group of gay guys to give it a stylish "makeover." Throw in some wifeswapping, some cornerworkers eating live cockroaches, some pitcrew getting drunk and shocking each others scrotums with tazers and you might have a winner here.
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I think the show jumped the shark before it even aired.

Not many people find entertainment in motorcycle racing beyond crashes. I can't get even my most sports loving friends to watch more than 10 minutes of MotoGP or Motocross/Supercross. If you don't get it, you don't want to watch it. The only way they will get the American public to watch this is to have Nicky blowing lines off the umbrella girls chests, while some bickering dysfunctional family builds his RCV212 out of scrap metal, and then sends it over to a group of gay guys to give it a stylish "makeover." Throw in some wifeswapping, some cornerworkers eating live cockroaches, some pitcrew getting drunk and shocking each others scrotums with tazers and you might have a winner here.

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I think the show jumped the shark before it even aired.

Not many people find entertainment in motorcycle racing beyond crashes. I can't get even my most sports loving friends to watch more than 10 minutes of MotoGP or Motocross/Supercross. If you don't get it, you don't want to watch it. The only way they will get the American public to watch this is to have Nicky blowing lines off the umbrella girls chests, while some bickering dysfunctional family builds his RCV212 out of scrap metal, and then sends it over to a group of gay guys to give it a stylish "makeover." Throw in some wifeswapping, some cornerworkers eating live cockroaches, some pitcrew getting drunk and shocking each others scrotums with tazers and you might have a winner here.
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I think the show jumped the shark before it even aired.

Not many people find entertainment in motorcycle racing beyond crashes. I can't get even my most sports loving friends to watch more than 10 minutes of MotoGP or Motocross/Supercross. If you don't get it, you don't want to watch it. The only way they will get the American public to watch this is to have Nicky blowing lines off the umbrella girls chests, while some bickering dysfunctional family builds his RCV212 out of scrap metal, and then sends it over to a group of gay guys to give it a stylish "makeover." Throw in some wifeswapping, some cornerworkers eating live cockroaches, some pitcrew getting drunk and shocking each others scrotums with tazers and you might have a winner here.

That is most funny statement I've heard all year; the sad thing is, this is pretty much true. Look at Paris Hilton, this is why she is still around. I will admit, some days MotoGP races are boring, this is one of those races where the order is determined after the first lap, and the outcome only changes if someone is having mechanical problems. Then you have race like the one before the end of the season, where the lead changes 3-4 times a lap.

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... some days MotoGP races are boring, this is one of those races where the order is determined after the first lap, and the outcome only changes if someone is having mechanical problems.
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so when is this set to debut on mtv then?...and will it be mtv 1 or mtv 2?....i wont pay and extra 5 bucks for speed channel cause thats all i would get from comcast due to them being a bunch of money hungry jagoff's...otherwise...im at the bar watching it...i would like to actually watch it with out having to pay extra...

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so when is this set to debut on mtv then?...and will it be mtv 1 or mtv 2?....i wont pay and extra 5 bucks for speed channel cause thats all i would get from comcast due to them being a bunch of money hungry jagoff's...otherwise...im at the bar watching it...i would like to actually watch it with out having to pay extra...

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I think the show jumped the shark before it even aired.

Not many people find entertainment in motorcycle racing beyond crashes. I can't get even my most sports loving friends to watch more than 10 minutes of MotoGP or Motocross/Supercross. If you don't get it, you don't want to watch it. The only way they will get the American public to watch this is to have Nicky blowing lines off the umbrella girls chests, while some bickering dysfunctional family builds his RCV212 out of scrap metal, and then sends it over to a group of gay guys to give it a stylish "makeover." Throw in some wifeswapping, some cornerworkers eating live cockroaches, some pitcrew getting drunk and shocking each others scrotums with tazers and you might have a winner here.
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Those reality shows always show pure crap, I just hope they dont make Nicky look like an idiot.
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Those reality shows always show pure crap, I just hope they dont make Nicky look like an idiot.
That's my worry...a reality show is fine, i can only imagine what MTV might do with it

That being side, i somewhat agree with the sentiment that this probably won't have a huge impact only because motorcycles and specifically racing are such a niche market...that's why my feeling are mixed

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The article was written today mkurgan, but it also says that the show will air late 2007 season..
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The fact that MTV is producing this has me more worried than what it will do to the sport - I don't need to see another choppy edit funky camera angle with sound bites playing show of what could be cool if done the right way - Unless it is hosted by Ricky Rachman and he grows his hair back out

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The thing could work because Nick is a young guy, born and raised in the hip-hop era. Even Ludacris wanted to sponsor Blata's failed Moto GP effort. So, I'd say, given a hip hop soundtrack, pics of Michael Jordan at the races, the umbreastla girls, etc., it could happen.

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I think the show jumped the shark before it even aired.

Not many people find entertainment in motorcycle racing beyond crashes. I can't get even my most sports loving friends to watch more than 10 minutes of MotoGP or Motocross/Supercross. If you don't get it, you don't want to watch it. The only way they will get the American public to watch this is to have Nicky blowing lines off the umbrella girls chests, while some bickering dysfunctional family builds his RCV212 out of scrap metal, and then sends it over to a group of gay guys to give it a stylish "makeover." Throw in some wifeswapping, some cornerworkers eating live cockroaches, some pitcrew getting drunk and shocking each others scrotums with tazers and you might have a winner here.
or they could just use Hopper. no offense, but Nicky is to much of a goody goody to be interesting to the MTV audience. CE would be a good choice but he's married, the MTV crowd couldn't relate

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Therein lies my fears...NASCAR is nothing like it used to be. They've turned it into a reality series...filled with gossip, rules changes and non-passing crash fests. All to accommodate a changing fan base that weren't really race fans. They had to change things to maintain interest. Now they've done very well for themselves, but the racing has suffered. Most of the drivers agree (at least the ones around prior to the explosion in popularity)...now many of the historic tracks have or will be abandoned to move to larger markets with cookie cutter tracks. It's a shame, and i'd hate to see something similar happen with GP...of course, i'm an over-reactionary moron, soooo
The same could be said for Motogp.

Think about it...

We hear and discuss gossip about it all the time.
There have been some major rule changes, remember 2 strokes? How about 990cc?
How about the bumping and midnight burnouts on the starting grid?
Fighting? Remember when Biaggi took a swing at Rossi post race?
Remember when Rossi and Giby used to hangout and play soccer, not anymore.
Changing Assen, Laguna?
etc. etc. etc.

Don't even get me started on WSB.

Any popular racing series is bound to be taken full advantage of by the people that are making money on it. They will make and give us whatever we will take. Which in the case of motorcycles is everything, because as fans we can't get enough. More coverage the better. They make it into a reality show because that is what works right now, it's cheap, easy and doesn't take a script or "actors".

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