Wow, just WOW! - Chicagoland Sportbikes
Chicagoland Sportbikes
 
Open Forum This forum is for all off-topic discussion.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 88 (permalink) Old 02-14-2007, 03:06 PM Thread Starter
B.O.B
 
EndlessRR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Ill.
Posts: 17,550
Location: Ill.
Sportbike: 'nana.
Years Riding: Look at my join date, ruh-tard.
How you found us: SBN?
           
Send a message via AIM to EndlessRR
Wow, just WOW!

Alright, another one of Endless' venting threads.

So, 2 weeks ago today i dropped my vehicle off at the lovely Audi Exchange in Highland Park for a lot of issues. I had the steering wheel, glove box, headliner, and radio changed. Called my service advisor yesterday, told me it'll be done today. Welp, just got off the phone with him, and he states that he car was put back together, but during start up something went haywire, causing a 'few' valves to bend. So, now i have to wait another week, and drive this POS wagon which i can't smoke in.

Now, my question to you car buffs, how bad is this? Do i want this motor back after this catastrophe? With my warranty ending soon, i sure don't want anything this drastic to happen later on, so, what should i do? Bitch em out and ask for a new motor? TiA, assholes are going to call me back to let me know the extentof the damage, so, need some input on what to do. THanks again.

Quote:
Originally Posted by G2G
No one says you have to get drunk everytime you drink.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snoodles
Isn't that like having sex and not finishing though?
EndlessRR is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 88 (permalink) Old 02-14-2007, 03:09 PM
Super Moderator

 
Vcook's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Winfield
Posts: 43,229
Location: Winfield
Sportbike: bikeless
Years Riding: 10
How you found us: Shit, you know I'm a clsb OG!
           
Send a message via AIM to Vcook
how in the fuck did they bend some valves?!?!?

Chris
Vcook is offline  
post #3 of 88 (permalink) Old 02-14-2007, 03:11 PM
a hollow voice says plugh
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: 60410
Posts: 2,510
Location: 60410
Sportbike: sold
Years Riding: legally- 7
How you found us: don't remember
           
Send a message via AIM to Zero Send a message via Yahoo to Zero
If a dealer called me and told me my valves were bent, I'd insist on a new cylinder head at the very least. If you have an interference engine (where the valves can contact the pistons if things go "haywire"), there could be piston damage too.
Zero is offline  
post #4 of 88 (permalink) Old 02-14-2007, 03:11 PM
YO MAMA
 
Odysseys's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: balls deep in someones mom
Posts: 60,261
Location: balls deep in someones mom
Sportbike: 2010 Electra Glide Police Edition 103cu
Years Riding: a long time!
           
they will fix what ever is wrong, and then ask if you can have the manufacture extend the warranty on the engine for free, if that doesn't happen.

wait a week, take it in, saying you think the engine feels funny. get them to document it.

if they find nothing wrong and down the line the same problem happens, you can argue with Audi, that after the repair you felt something wrong, but they didn't find anything wrong with it, but now that its broke this is what i was talking about, which as the time it was under warranty. so fix it now for free!!!



Odysseys is offline  
post #5 of 88 (permalink) Old 02-14-2007, 03:12 PM
Registered User
 
MM Racing's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Hoffman Est., IL
Posts: 4,527
Location: Hoffman Est., IL
Sportbike: Squat
Years Riding: More then one hands worth.
How you found us: Your Mother
           
Send a message via AIM to MM Racing
Variable timing motor? I very highly doubt they will give you a new engine, I would bet new heads at the most, but more then likely they will do a valve job and you can bitch all you want but I would bet you won't get too far with them.

In the future tell them to have Chris work on it.

Ian
MM Racing is offline  
post #6 of 88 (permalink) Old 02-14-2007, 03:13 PM
To infinity and beyond
 
Ricochet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Westmont, IL
Posts: 196
Location: Westmont, IL
Sportbike: 2008 Hayabusa
Years Riding: 24
How you found us: Goggle Search Engine
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vcook View Post
how in the fuck did they bend some valves?!?!?
They did a Ferris Buellar with your car.

What were you thinking??? You can't catch me!
Ricochet is offline  
post #7 of 88 (permalink) Old 02-14-2007, 03:13 PM
a hollow voice says plugh
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: 60410
Posts: 2,510
Location: 60410
Sportbike: sold
Years Riding: legally- 7
How you found us: don't remember
           
Send a message via AIM to Zero Send a message via Yahoo to Zero
Do you have a 5 valve/cylinder engine? That could be expensive to fix down the road.

+1 on getting everything in writing and warrantied.
Zero is offline  
post #8 of 88 (permalink) Old 02-14-2007, 03:14 PM
-+-+-+-+-+-
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Lombard, IL
Posts: 2,427
Location: Lombard, IL
Sportbike: 2002 YZF-R1
Years Riding: A few days since yesterday
How you found us: Another website
           
Did they do a timing belt or something?

There is no way the engine would have been affected by the work you listed.

As far as repair goes...it's not a very uncommon problem with timing belts snapping. They will be able to repair it and it will be back to 100%. If it's at the dealer they won't even bother trying to repair the head, they will just order a new one.
Keyhole is offline  
post #9 of 88 (permalink) Old 02-14-2007, 03:15 PM Thread Starter
B.O.B
 
EndlessRR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Ill.
Posts: 17,550
Location: Ill.
Sportbike: 'nana.
Years Riding: Look at my join date, ruh-tard.
How you found us: SBN?
           
Send a message via AIM to EndlessRR
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vcook View Post
how in the fuck did they bend some valves?!?!?
Wish i knew man, all the SA told me was that during start up something went bad or some crap, then went on apologizing to me, and said he'll get back to me soon. My buddy, who helps me work on my car, says to fight them and get a new motor, since bent valves are really bad. (i have absolutely no clue)

Quote:
Originally Posted by G2G
No one says you have to get drunk everytime you drink.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snoodles
Isn't that like having sex and not finishing though?
EndlessRR is offline  
post #10 of 88 (permalink) Old 02-14-2007, 03:17 PM
Viva La Figa!!
 
Downforce137's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: In Diana
Posts: 6,215
Location: In Diana
Sportbike: negative.
Years Riding: long enough to know better.
How you found us: cycleforums.com
           
Send a message via AIM to Downforce137
Bent valves aren't that bad.. lots of $$$ but as long as the valve guides aren't cracked, simply replacing the valves will be fine. Usually the guides aren't damaged unless the valves contact the piston at high RPMs. Since it sound like it happened at start-up, Im sure it'll be fine.
Downforce137 is offline  
post #11 of 88 (permalink) Old 02-14-2007, 03:18 PM
-+-+-+-+-+-
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Lombard, IL
Posts: 2,427
Location: Lombard, IL
Sportbike: 2002 YZF-R1
Years Riding: A few days since yesterday
How you found us: Another website
           
Most dealerships won't do any internal engine work. They just order new parts.
Keyhole is offline  
post #12 of 88 (permalink) Old 02-14-2007, 03:19 PM Thread Starter
B.O.B
 
EndlessRR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Ill.
Posts: 17,550
Location: Ill.
Sportbike: 'nana.
Years Riding: Look at my join date, ruh-tard.
How you found us: SBN?
           
Send a message via AIM to EndlessRR
Quote:
Originally Posted by Keyhole View Post
Did they do a timing belt or something?

There is no way the engine would have been affected by the work you listed.

As far as repair goes...it's not a very uncommon problem with timing belts snapping. They will be able to repair it and it will be back to 100%. If it's at the dealer they won't even bother trying to repair the head, they will just order a new one.
neg, not TB work. The last thing they were working on was replacing a flange between the motor and trans. seriously though,i know shit about this car, so i turn to you folks.

Quote:
Originally Posted by G2G
No one says you have to get drunk everytime you drink.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snoodles
Isn't that like having sex and not finishing though?
EndlessRR is offline  
post #13 of 88 (permalink) Old 02-14-2007, 03:19 PM
Viva La Figa!!
 
Downforce137's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: In Diana
Posts: 6,215
Location: In Diana
Sportbike: negative.
Years Riding: long enough to know better.
How you found us: cycleforums.com
           
Send a message via AIM to Downforce137
Quote:
Originally Posted by Keyhole View Post
Most dealerships won't do any internal engine work. They just order new parts.

Yes, but when the dealer is paying, they do whatever is cheaper for them. Now, if warranty or a customer is paying, they do what is easier..
Downforce137 is offline  
post #14 of 88 (permalink) Old 02-14-2007, 03:24 PM Thread Starter
B.O.B
 
EndlessRR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Ill.
Posts: 17,550
Location: Ill.
Sportbike: 'nana.
Years Riding: Look at my join date, ruh-tard.
How you found us: SBN?
           
Send a message via AIM to EndlessRR
Fuck man, i'm fucking sweating from being so pissed! So, what should i ask for? new heads, pistons, valve job, timing belt? BTW, my belt was about to go anyways, so, this may have caused it???

Quote:
Originally Posted by G2G
No one says you have to get drunk everytime you drink.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snoodles
Isn't that like having sex and not finishing though?
EndlessRR is offline  
post #15 of 88 (permalink) Old 02-14-2007, 03:27 PM
Fear is the mind killer
 
ChiefBD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Waukegan,IL
Posts: 8,772
Location: Waukegan,IL
Sportbike: 05 GSXR 600, 03 RM 250
Years Riding: Thousands of miles, multiple engines
How you found us: www.gsxr.com
           
Dump that damn car Rob, that thing has been in the shop more than you have driven it. I don't remember any 2 month period you had it without taking it to the shop. How many loaner cars have you used since you had it?

Xbox Live GOW Killer
Handle : ChiefBDR

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kegger View Post
"Ride it like you have 30 monthly remaining payments" should keep most people out of trouble.
ChiefBD is offline  
post #16 of 88 (permalink) Old 02-14-2007, 03:30 PM
Registered User
 
Chunk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Chicago
Posts: 13,847
Location: Chicago
Sportbike: I don't ride
How you found us: google
           
bro.. your car is FUCKED UP! I heard they was even talking about your mama. I wouldn't take that shit if I was you.
Chunk is offline  
post #17 of 88 (permalink) Old 02-14-2007, 03:30 PM
Super Moderator

 
Vcook's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Winfield
Posts: 43,229
Location: Winfield
Sportbike: bikeless
Years Riding: 10
How you found us: Shit, you know I'm a clsb OG!
           
Send a message via AIM to Vcook
Quote:
Originally Posted by EndlessRR View Post
Wish i knew man, all the SA told me was that during start up something went bad or some crap, then went on apologizing to me, and said he'll get back to me soon. My buddy, who helps me work on my car, says to fight them and get a new motor, since bent valves are really bad. (i have absolutely no clue)
yeah, something when bad during the donuts they were doing in the back lot, too much time on the rev limiter.

Chris
Vcook is offline  
post #18 of 88 (permalink) Old 02-14-2007, 03:35 PM Thread Starter
B.O.B
 
EndlessRR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Ill.
Posts: 17,550
Location: Ill.
Sportbike: 'nana.
Years Riding: Look at my join date, ruh-tard.
How you found us: SBN?
           
Send a message via AIM to EndlessRR
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiefBD View Post
Dump that damn car Rob, that thing has been in the shop more than you have driven it. I don't remember any 2 month period you had it without taking it to the shop. How many loaner cars have you used since you had it?
I've driven almost all the models, minus the S/RS/A8/TT. If all goes well and they won't do shit for me, i'm trading this in and looking for a E39 M5. Yay, another problematic car.

Quote:
Originally Posted by G2G
No one says you have to get drunk everytime you drink.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snoodles
Isn't that like having sex and not finishing though?
EndlessRR is offline  
post #19 of 88 (permalink) Old 02-14-2007, 03:35 PM
Registered User
 
Slowass's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Rockford, IL
Posts: 2,872
Location: Rockford, IL
Sportbike: 2006 R6 Raven
Years Riding: 7 years
How you found us: ChicagoIlivewithmymomriders.com
           
Should have bought a Toyota.

_____________________________________________
The CLSB Bitch Wrecking Crew

Book of my Fuh-Zayce

Gotta DANCE!
Slowass is offline  
post #20 of 88 (permalink) Old 02-14-2007, 03:37 PM
Registered User
 
Chunk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Chicago
Posts: 13,847
Location: Chicago
Sportbike: I don't ride
How you found us: google
           
get a Toyota Land Cruiser. You will never have any issues. Guaranteed! Or I'll give you one million dollars.
Chunk is offline  
post #21 of 88 (permalink) Old 02-14-2007, 03:44 PM
Bug
Ridiculously Good Looking
 
Bug's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Gold Coast
Posts: 32,750
Location: Gold Coast
Sportbike: Sportbike?
Years Riding: No F'in Idea
How you found us: 4 & 6
           
Dude, All I can say is that shit ain't right holmes - And my only other suggestion other than the norm (BAB) would be "Vee Dub in dah houuuuuse" - Go drive a DSG Bro, then call me - If ya like it, let me know, I can hook ya - or go for tyhe Rev $1 Mil thing but regardless, dump that A6 4.2 money pit - What is it, a 2000?

"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming WOW, what a RIDE !!"
Bug is offline  
post #22 of 88 (permalink) Old 02-14-2007, 03:49 PM
The Victim Newbie
 
clearwaterms's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Westchester, IL
Posts: 7,384
Location: Westchester, IL
Sportbike: 2007 mountain bike
Years Riding: just started
How you found us: svrider.com
           
Send a message via AIM to clearwaterms Send a message via MSN to clearwaterms Send a message via Yahoo to clearwaterms
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bug View Post
Dude, All I can say is that shit ain't right holmes - And my only other suggestion other than the norm (BAB) would be "Vee Dub in dah houuuuuse" - Go drive a DSG Bro, then call me - If ya like it, let me know, I can hook ya - or go for tyhe Rev $1 Mil thing but regardless, dump that A6 4.2 money pit - What is it, a 2000?

audi / VW same parent company, same crappy cars

<-- Chris

turn the bars left and go right; that just isn't right
clearwaterms is offline  
post #23 of 88 (permalink) Old 02-14-2007, 03:51 PM Thread Starter
B.O.B
 
EndlessRR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Ill.
Posts: 17,550
Location: Ill.
Sportbike: 'nana.
Years Riding: Look at my join date, ruh-tard.
How you found us: SBN?
           
Send a message via AIM to EndlessRR
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bug View Post
Dude, All I can say is that shit ain't right holmes - And my only other suggestion other than the norm (BAB) would be "Vee Dub in dah houuuuuse" - Go drive a DSG Bro, then call me - If ya like it, let me know, I can hook ya - or go for tyhe Rev $1 Mil thing but regardless, dump that A6 4.2 money pit - What is it, a 2000?
It's an 01. Me no likey Vdubs for some reason, and i don't want a 2 door any longer (only dub i would consider is the older R32?). But, after speaking to a few otehr Audi owners with the same car, my problem isn't half as bad, since most the internals (hopefully) will be replaced, including my timing belt. I'm going to the dealer after work to bitch up a storm, gonna bring the .45 with me jic they don't listen. Haven't looked into any other cars besides the E39 M5, and the B6 S4 (V8, all motor).

Quote:
Originally Posted by G2G
No one says you have to get drunk everytime you drink.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snoodles
Isn't that like having sex and not finishing though?
EndlessRR is offline  
post #24 of 88 (permalink) Old 02-14-2007, 03:58 PM
Bug
Ridiculously Good Looking
 
Bug's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Gold Coast
Posts: 32,750
Location: Gold Coast
Sportbike: Sportbike?
Years Riding: No F'in Idea
How you found us: 4 & 6
           
Quote:
Originally Posted by clearwaterms View Post
audi / VW same parent company, same crappy cars
'01 to '06 - Big Diff Bro - Same folks that also build the Lambos - Look how that quality control has skyrocketed - Got rid of my '04 A4 and went VW and have not regreted it one bit - I would not tell my boy to make a move unless I could speak from experience - I am a german Fan thru and thru

"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming WOW, what a RIDE !!"
Bug is offline  
post #25 of 88 (permalink) Old 02-14-2007, 04:08 PM
Rex Banner
 
Flying_Hellfish's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Aurora
Posts: 2,561
Location: Aurora
Sportbike: 99 SV650, z50r
Years Riding: A few years
How you found us: A tranny told me
           
Quote:
Originally Posted by EndlessRR View Post
It's an 01. Me no likey Vdubs for some reason, and i don't want a 2 door any longer (only dub i would consider is the older R32?). But, after speaking to a few otehr Audi owners with the same car, my problem isn't half as bad, since most the internals (hopefully) will be replaced, including my timing belt. I'm going to the dealer after work to bitch up a storm, gonna bring the .45 with me jic they don't listen. Haven't looked into any other cars besides the E39 M5, and the B6 S4 (V8, all motor).
As far as the interference engine list goes.... http://www.forparts.com/daycoaudi.htm

But either way it is BS, whatever happened if it's warranty work and they said they bent valves, make them replace the damn engine.
Flying_Hellfish is offline  
post #26 of 88 (permalink) Old 02-14-2007, 04:16 PM Thread Starter
B.O.B
 
EndlessRR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Ill.
Posts: 17,550
Location: Ill.
Sportbike: 'nana.
Years Riding: Look at my join date, ruh-tard.
How you found us: SBN?
           
Send a message via AIM to EndlessRR
Here's what i am going to request - Either a new motor, or an extended 3 yr warranty for the engine. I'm so fucking po'd, that thing was running like a champ, minus the other small issues... fuckers.

Quote:
Originally Posted by G2G
No one says you have to get drunk everytime you drink.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snoodles
Isn't that like having sex and not finishing though?
EndlessRR is offline  
post #27 of 88 (permalink) Old 02-14-2007, 04:32 PM
Viva La Figa!!
 
Downforce137's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: In Diana
Posts: 6,215
Location: In Diana
Sportbike: negative.
Years Riding: long enough to know better.
How you found us: cycleforums.com
           
Send a message via AIM to Downforce137
you might not want to push the issue, since if the timing belt did indeed break, although they had the car, it very easily couldve happened as you were leaving for work. I'd call the SA and calmly ask exactly what happened, since your car wasn't in for anything that required the hood to be opened, and if he's all dodgy, then start asking for warranty on the work they are doing.. Im sure there's a standard 12mos/12K on their work, but i'd push it a bit, unless he gives you a straight up answer.
Downforce137 is offline  
post #28 of 88 (permalink) Old 02-14-2007, 04:46 PM
The Victim Newbie
 
clearwaterms's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Westchester, IL
Posts: 7,384
Location: Westchester, IL
Sportbike: 2007 mountain bike
Years Riding: just started
How you found us: svrider.com
           
Send a message via AIM to clearwaterms Send a message via MSN to clearwaterms Send a message via Yahoo to clearwaterms
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bug View Post
'01 to '06 - Big Diff Bro - Same folks that also build the Lambos - Look how that quality control has skyrocketed - Got rid of my '04 A4 and went VW and have not regreted it one bit - I would not tell my boy to make a move unless I could speak from experience - I am a german Fan thru and thru
im just giving you a hard time. Im not a fan of VW or Audi. But I don't know of any particular reason why somebody shouldn't buy them. im just not a fan

<-- Chris

turn the bars left and go right; that just isn't right
clearwaterms is offline  
post #29 of 88 (permalink) Old 02-14-2007, 04:48 PM
-+-+-+-+-+-
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Lombard, IL
Posts: 2,427
Location: Lombard, IL
Sportbike: 2002 YZF-R1
Years Riding: A few days since yesterday
How you found us: Another website
           
Even if the timing belt did break on them...if he is still under warranty it wouldn't matter. I think the recommendation is like 90k on the 20v engine. Usually by 90k you are well out of most warranties.
Keyhole is offline  
post #30 of 88 (permalink) Old 02-14-2007, 05:36 PM
Bug
Ridiculously Good Looking
 
Bug's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Gold Coast
Posts: 32,750
Location: Gold Coast
Sportbike: Sportbike?
Years Riding: No F'in Idea
How you found us: 4 & 6
           
Quote:
Originally Posted by clearwaterms View Post
im just giving you a hard time. Im not a fan of VW or Audi. But I don't know of any particular reason why somebody shouldn't buy them. im just not a fan
- I can tell ya "why" they should, DSfuckinG trans

"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming WOW, what a RIDE !!"
Bug is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Chicagoland Sportbikes forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome