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HJC AC-12 pr Scorpio EXO-700 or RF-1000

I am looking into getting a new Helmet, I realy like the look of the AC-12 Carbon and also I like the fit of the EXO-700 and Shoei RF-1000.
Please let me know what are your opinions on these three helmets, however, reply only if you own one of them. You may suggest another helmet in the $300 range that is no more then $300.
Thanks for the advice and have a nice day.

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post #2 of 20 (permalink) Old 04-03-2007, 05:37 PM
 
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I have an AC-12, it's not the carbon because I didn't really like the look of it with the normal black of my bike but I'm really happy with the helmet. The lining is removable so it's easily cleaned, it has a great working anti-fogging coating on the visor and a removable breathguard. The vents are easy to work even with gloves on and while riding and stays pretty cool. The visors are really quick to change. It's a lot more aeordynamic than my first helmet and doesn't get tossed around so it doesn't strain your neck very much. I read in a review that they didn't like that the helmet didn't have like a 1/2 inch open notch in the visor but if you close it all the way without sealing it it stays open enough to still get some air across your face.

You mentioned that you really like the fit of the other 2 but what about the fit of the carbon? Anyone on here will tell you that a good fit is the most important factor in a helmet choice. Also, I don't know the profiles of the others but if I catch myself in a mirror with my helmet on it looks overly bulbous, maybe that's just me being vain but something with a smaller or less round of a shell would've looked better.
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Carbon is very cool, I tried it on and liked it. However, the review on the webbikeworld said that the clear coat flaked off easily because it doesn't stick too well to carbon fiber.

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I've had a HJC, didn't like it. I'd go shoeii.
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I've had HJC and AGV. Current helmet is a RF-1000 and I will be getting another when it comes to replace it.

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BTW, +1 on Shoei. I rode for about an hour yesterday in my new X-11 and found it to exceed my expectations. My previous lid was Arai Quantum II and Shoei is on par if not better.

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Id check out KBC.. ive been wearing their helmets for a couple years, and am very happy with them. The liners are nice, great venting, easy visor changes. VR2 is the fiberglass, and the ForceRR is the polycarbonate. The VR2 would prolly absorb an impact better because the the shell, but they dont fit my round head very well. ForceRR on the other hand fits perfect..

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I have the ac12 carbon and love it I also have the ac12 mx3.
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+1 on the EXO-700. Have owned Shoei's and I seriously prefer the Scorpion even if price was not a factor. Liked my 700 so much that I bought another this year. They seem to fit everyones head shape perfectly. Everyone who tries one loves them. They have a ton of features too, removable liners, no fog shields...you name it and they have it. Typically to get these "extras" with other makers you must buy their top of the line lid. Try one out you will be happy. Very nice fit and finish too.

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Well I've had the EXO-700, an AC-11, and now an RF-1000. The Shoei is by far my favorite of all of them! I liked all of them... the Scorpion was my first and I liked it, but it dropped a few times and the knobs on the sides for the visor kept breaking off. Overall comfort and quality was very nice though. Then I got the HJC.... not bad for the $$ but still left some to be desired. It was comfy, but noisy and the ventilation wasn't that great. Also the visor came off the one side while going.... ahem... well into the triple digits, lol. And it had tons of paint chips and nicks and such. BUT, I'm not gonna bash that lid cuz it's the one I had on when I went down on I-595 back in August 2005, and had it not done it's job, I would not be here typing this right now. Then I got the RF-1000 "Voltage". I LOVE it!! Super comfortable... fits me like a glove! Still got some wind noise, but not bad at all, the ventilation is fantastic and the overall quality is supurb. I really like how you can crack the visor open just a little bit and lock it there, or lock it closed I've been wearing it day in and day out for the last 56k miles and it still looks brand new... no paint chips or scratches or anything

But it's hard to give advise on lids, cuz each brand fits different people, and different shaped heads. You've gotta go try some on and see what fits your shape head. For me the AGV and ICONS just don't fit me at all, nor do the Arais. Just go try a bunch on and see what fits. Also different brands are sized slightly different. For me, I wear a small for the Scorpion and HJC, but a medium in the Shoei

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I've had an HJC before. They're great protection. I was wearing an HJC when my head was run over by a tanker truck. I got away with a few fractures in and around my orbitals, and a tiny bit of bleeding in the brain.
That said, they don't fit me quite right. Shoeis do, so I like my RF-1000.

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I've had an HJC before. They're great protection. I was wearing an HJC when my head was run over by a tanker truck. I got away with a few fractures in and around my orbitals, and a tiny bit of bleeding in the brain.
That said, they don't fit me quite right. Shoeis do, so I like my RF-1000.
+1 I own a HJC and a Shoe RF-1000. Crash tested one of my older HJCs and it held up great. My head didn't get run over by a tanker but hey it did protect me. I'm the opposite of Rob, my Shoei doesn't fit me quite well but my HJC fits my head perfect. I like the Shoei though because my head doesn't move around as much when I'm riding on windy days and I don't hear as much wind noise. I've also tried on Under200's EXO and it is kickass. I think they're all good helmets, just pick the one that feels best on your head.

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I just got a HJC yikesIII off ebay for $99.
I liked my Arai better, but $99 for a sweet track helmet I con't complain too much.
I guess my only complaint is the space for your ear. Besides that, fit is good.
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I guess my only complaint is the space for your ear. Besides that, fit is good.

Well I have two ears, but there should be a couple of inserts that snap in there to make it more snug and quiet. My old HJC came with two different sizes, swapped them, and it fit snugg.....
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I have had AC-10 and AC-11...and crashed tested the AC-11, smacked my head on Bateman at around 45mph....didn't feel a thing I have a fond spot for HJC's AC line....quality helmet for little money. I'm wearing a Shoei now TC-Z, I like it...it was a bargain....$102, a good helmet...good vents, love the ease of taking the shield off.

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I have the AC12 (carbon). It's a good helmet if you can get past the noiseyness.

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yesterday I went to CCC to get some oil and had a chance to try HJC, Shoei and Arai, and have to say that I was most impressed with HJC CL-SP series.
Shoei (X-11 and RF-1000) felt just like my current helmet, very nice and comfy, Arai Corsair was just OK, I already have this helmet that I barely wear due to my head shape I guess, however, HJC CL-SP felt just like Shoei did, except it was half the price, so I bought it. BTW AC-12 was nice but CL-SP felt better.
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a word of caution - out of HJC line up only AC line can even be compared to major brands. their CL and CS lines are much lower quality and produced in China from what I heard, while AC line is their top brand and manufactured in South Korea. Same goes for KBC helmets, and they had an article about their chinese facility on motorcyclist about a year ago - I would not by made in China helmet - there were messages in that article about poor employee training and QC issues in China facilities.

I had AC-11 and now have AC-12 YikesIII - it is a little noisy, but very comfortable for my round head with fat face. and HJC AC helmets have a buildt-in speaker cavity - I installed a pair of helmet speakers and don't feel them at all.
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i'm actually looking to get the exo-1000...

http://www.webbikeworld.com/r2/motor...pion/exo-1000/





Built-in retractable sun visor, inflatable cheek pads (The Pump is back! LOL)... looks hawt!
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i'm actually looking to get the exo-1000...

http://www.webbikeworld.com/r2/motor...pion/exo-1000/

Built-in retractable sun visor, inflatable cheek pads (The Pump is back! LOL)... looks hawt!
I really like my EXO-700 and I saw the 1000 not long ago, seems like it'd be worth the extra cost.

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