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Anyone know anything about air compressors?

in the market, I have always been pro-craftsman so I am looking between these two and wanted input from ya guys.


Black

Red


Comparison side by side


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The specs actually look better on the cheaper one. Either of them is going to be loud, like any "oil free" air compressor.

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I keep hearing that it's better to buy an oil lubricated compressor because they're quieter and live longer. But they're also a bit more expensive.

I didn't need a large one, so I got the 12 gallon 1HP oil lubricated (Craftsman). Happy with it.

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I got the cobalt 30 gallon from lowes and like it alot, its oil lubricated and pretty quiet.
Also I think home depot has a similar one for a little less. Skip the oil free, and maybe consider a 220 unit.
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I actually have the black one and I am very happy with it. Works well for everything that you want it to do and it is very quiet.
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Thanks for the input guys, please keep it comming1 I am going to purchase this week so I can get everything going.


Nagaro, how is it with keeping pressure, jobs, refilling, eTc. made me curious and I want more info!! heh.

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I have the red one, works well, but it is loud as f**** . You feel like you are going to blow up the entire block when you use it.

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has anyone ever pulled the air hose too far and tipped one of these verticals over? Thats why I went with a horizontal unit

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has anyone ever pulled the air hose too far and tipped one of these verticals over? Thats why I went with a horizontal unit

I see allot of people using 2x4s to secure it down.




I decided on the black one. I remember how loud the red is with a friend that had a horizontal so I went in and was comparing between the two units aside from that.



The red came with a low grade impact and 20ft hose and low grade ratchet.
Whereas the Black came with a better ratchet.

I decided since I am rougher on things it would be better to opt for the better units and buy a wall mounted retractable hose reel, (out of stock but got a raincheck for it, $40)




and I got the impact


and I pick up the compressor on Wed. (yipeeeeee)

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I didn't look, but if I remember isn't the black one a dual stage which is better.


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I didn't look, but if I remember isn't the black one a dual stage which is better.

YUP!

Thats what was one of the things that sold me,

Dual stage = faster refill
40% quieter = less pain to the brain
black = because black is just pimp

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I got the big 220 sitting in my garage...to bad i don't have 220 run out there yet


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The only real CON with an oil lubed compressor is using it in the cold. You can pretty easily trip a circuit when trying to start them up due to the increased resistance of the cold oil.
Everything else stated seems about right. For noise output and durability, oil lubed is the way to go. A dual stage unit will cover you on more tasks as well.
I have both types and each has it's place.

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Thanks for posting this thread. I was just looking into something like this for using on the car.
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DAMN


Sandblast box's need a higher SCFM!

The black I am looking at is
SCFM Delivery At 90 psi 5.1 SCFM

and I need it around 10-12

so I looked up the next model but the MOTHER @#$%^ER has to be Hardwired!!!

DAMN.

"Voltage 240 volts Color:
Cord Option Hard wire only by a professional electrician "

Chit,
Anyone have any suggestions!?



Link to the two bigger models I would have to invest in.

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Ok,


so I think what I would do is
move the compressor to the same wall as the circuit breaker. place it in the spot of the ladder. install the conduit on the Outside of the "drywall"
Get this 'buisness' going and then fix the old electrical install that has all that BX and get it swapped for conduit. remove 220 conduit. drywall, paint. replace 220 conduit onto walls.


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situation with electrical in that garage that I was talking about replacing BX with.

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It's probably going to be cheaper to get a smaller sand blasting box than buy a larger output compressor.

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yea, but In case I plan on doing larger items I figure its better to over due. plus personally everyone that knowes me knowes to always get me the "bigger/stronger/nicer/moreexspensive" item.






I went and met an awesome guy and he taught me a bit about compressors.

He said that the oil free will need to be "rebuilt" in twice the amount of time as the oiled version (if that makes sense, the oil free needs it before oiled)

But, the rebuild only takes a plastic O ring around the piston for the oil free whereas the oiled version takes quite a bit more to service and its quite a bit more costly.
The O-Ring only costs 5$ and the Oiled rebuild is 60+

You can tell when you need a rebuild on the oil free because it does not fill as fast or needs to pump up more often.



The oil free IS LOuder because the piston is exsposed to open atmosphere.






Now guys, How to I make a good stand for it? I tried looking it up online but I could not find any articles. im a little bit concerned about drilling into concrete to mount it so I was considering a wood mount for it.

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i've got the red one and after 3 years of use working on our cars, sandblasting and whatnot it's pretty much crapped out.
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I left mine on the wheels that it came with. Makes it easier if I want to move it when I clean the garage.
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hey goof, you going to rebuild it? or is it, "ded"


no wheels, I did get the big ass 60 Gallon.

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