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post #1 of 57 (permalink) Old 04-10-2007, 01:26 PM Thread Starter
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How to convice the ma and pa?

I'm 22 years old and really want to buy a bike this summer. However, there's a problem, my parents which I still reside with are totally against it. I'm sure im not the only person to over come this dilemma, anyone have any ideas?
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Good luck. It took me 4 years to convince my parents. It was pretty much me telling them I'm going to get one, it won't cost you a cent and it will be done with me at college year round. They said no at first, but I told them I was getting one anyway and they wouldn't know about it. Finally my dad said alright, but that not a penny will come out of his pocket for it for any reason.
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plan a:
step 1, move out
step 2, buy bike

plan b:
in all honesty, your best bet is to take the MSF, explain that you are willing to start small. explain that the sport isn't as dangerous as the media makes it out to be. agree to always wear all your safety gear. helmet, gloves, jacket, pants and riding boots. agree to never drink and ride.

plan c:
hide it in your best friends garage...

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Move out and live on your own.

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First step is to move out. Its their house so its their rules.

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hide it in your best friends garage...
A friend did this... it was great.. until he split his spleen in an accident.

That did not go over too well.

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You live in their house, respect their wishes.

OR move out, do your own thing, and ignore their wishes.

FWIW - It is not a safe sport.

I've got an EX250 that I'd sell that is a super starter bike... unless you would prefer to start big, I have a ZX-12R for sale as well...

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as long as ya prove to them that you can handle the responsibility of making payments on time and you'll ride responsibly and not act a fool on it is the best advice i can give ya. i had the same dillema w/ the family in 05 when i bought my bike at 19. of course playing the "you had a bike at my age" to my pops was a bit of help but his bike at my age back in the day was basically a scooter compared to my bike now. the best thing i did was not go behind their back and buy one like most people i know, i told them straight forward that i'm considering purchasing one and showed them with my financial status how i can afford the payment and insurance on it and they gave in and gave me the approval i was looking for before i went ahead and bought it. even got my pops to co-sign so i can get a DRASTICALLY lower interest rate!... good luck man!
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Get the hell out of there, and then get a bike when you can afford one. I wanted one for about 6 years before I had the means to get one.

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I've got an EX250 that I'd sell that is a super starter bike...
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You may be able to convince them if they understand that
motorcycles are not so much dangerous as they are unforgiving.

Meaning, if you take a class, always wear full gear, and never consume
alcahol beofe / during a ride that you can manage the risks.

YOu might spend some time pointing out dangerous behaviors as sadly
there are many examples, riding in shorts, speeding, weaving, no gear,
no helmet, wheelies, stoppies, string bikini's etc etc....


Make sure they understand that you will be doing the former, not the latter.



Wink's right, this is a very unforgiving sport, approached correctly... not so bad.


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Move out and live on your own.

Problem solved.
what he said.

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YOu might spend some time pointing out dangerous behaviors as sadly
there are many examples......., string bikini's etc etc....
That seems more dangerous for surrounding cars!

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Get a car. Already have a car? Get a pickup and a dirtbike. Build riding skills offroad and don't get hurt. Then, next year you will have skills and possibly convince your parents your ready for a street bike.

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Shit!!!! Your 22. Move out, cut the cord. Chicks like an independent guy more than a moocher with a bike. Thats what its all about anyway. Right?

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This would fall under the "my roof my rules" category. Even though you have been an "adult" for 4 years, the ultimate independence comes when you start supporting yourself.
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First step is to move out. Its their house so its their rules.
+1 I joined the Army. 2 weeks after graduating HS I was flown out to Ft. Benning GA for Basic training. When I got back from Desert Storm bought my first bike a FZ 600.

My Mom told me as long as I live under her roof aI have to play by her rules.
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This would fall under the "my roof my rules" category. Even though you have been an "adult" for 4 years, the ultimate independence comes when you start supporting yourself.
*THAT* is the sign that you are responsible.

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22, living with the parents and asking an advice on how to talk them into you buying a bike? There's a problem here and it's not with the motorcycle - move out and live on your own. But I would recommend holding off a bike purchase for a while - you'll need to stabilize your spend vs income after starting out on your own.

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My mom said no bikes, no tattoos, no piercings. That was 12 yeas ago. Now she ownes a tattoo studio. go figure. Move out, buy a cheap ass bike, take the MSF course.
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plan b:
in all honesty, your best bet is to take the MSF, explain that you are willing to start small. explain that the sport isn't as dangerous as the media makes it out to be. agree to always wear all your safety gear. helmet, gloves, jacket, pants and riding boots. agree to never drink and ride.
I'd sign up for the MSF before you tell them, and go before they know you signed up if possible...That's just adding ammunition. Then once you pass it, explain to them what you learned in the class, and what protection you will NEVER ride without.

Print up some examples of statistics of going down, and how greatly your risks are reduced by wearing a helmet/gloves/jacket/boots, and don't forget to call them "idiots," making your rents feel better about it right away. Also, depending on your relationship is with yourparents, you could tell them that you could buy one, store it in a friend's place, and lie to them about it, but you'd rather tell them the truth, and have them be a part of what you want to do. That way worked for me, and my parents have loved it ever since.

Good luck!
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Take the free MSF course through The University of Illinois. You have to dedicate your time 2 weekends in a row. They supply the bike and the helmet. You wear boots, jeans, a jacket and gloves. They teach you how to ride a motorcycle. If you pass, you go to the DMV and purchase your M class endorsement. No need to take a written test. You will also get a better deal on insurance.

Take the class, present it to your parents after you complete it. Tell them you are going into the sport in safe and mature way.

If you really want to ride, go in it the cheaper way. Get a dirtbike. No need for insurance, registration, endorsement, johny jackass in his 18 wheeler trying to run you over, or grandma in her Lincoln Continental pulling out in front of you. There are a lot of us that go dirtbiking on this site so you wont have a problem finding people to go riding with.

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I bought my bike when I was 19, and still living at home. My older brother always had bikes, an F2, then F4, and then a ZX-7R. My mom was completely against it, because my dad got cut off by some cracked out chick, and got pretty badly injured, so she tried to change my mind. Never told me no, even though I lived under her roof, because she knew how bad I wanted one, she didn't want it to be a secret. Trust me, she got over the initial fear once she saw me ride, with gear...that's the catch. She felt less stressed about her 19 year old son riding, once she knew I was smart enough to wear gear and be mature on a dangerous machine. The rest is left up to fate. Moral of the story, stay honest and prove you can be trusted to be mature, since you can't gaurantee the drivers around you to be.
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Sit down with the rents explain why you want to ride. Talk to the rents and tell them what you plan to do to be safe and sound. Let them ask you questions and answer them honestly. If they still say no you tried.

Otherwise move out and do whatever you want.

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Draw up a budget. Move out. Make your own decisions.

My parents had no idea what I did after I moved out. I was 22 at the time. They were the last people I considered when I purchased anything or made important decisions and still are.

You know your parents pretty well by now. Do you think you have any chance of changing their minds? If so, keep at it. If not, do you really want to live in that environment of hiding a bike knowing they'd get upset?

My opinion is if you need mommy and daddy (or anyone really) to help you buy anything- or are the major influence- then you probably shouldn't be buying it. I'm fiercely independent and jealous of people that do get help though. That's a story for the shrink tho.
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+1 on the moving out part.

*sigh* I relate to this all too well.

And don't think that moving out will make them accept the m cycle any moreso...I bought my first bike (Sporty 883) right after finishing grad school, had been living on my own for 3 years beforehand. I hid it in my neighbor's garage for months and when my parents found out about it, they still flipped about it.

Bought the R6 a year later and was sure to keep that from them. My parents found out when my aunt called my mom after reading about my crash in the local newspaper.

My mom said she'd "write me off" if I didn't quit motorcycling. We didn't talk for 6 months.

I am nearly 30 years old, married, have a morgage and I still don't dare MENTION riding around my mom.

Edit: I am still jealous as hell of those bastards who can buy motorcycles while still living with their parents and not hear a peep from them.

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IMHO, sign yourself AND your parents up for the MSF class. It'll make you all more comfortable and better on any vehicle. *Then* consider getting a bike. Possible negative outcome: your mom getting a leather halter top.

Otherwise, move out and follow Gasguzzler's advice-- off-road will be a lot of fun and really prepare you for the rest.
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Well I just did all this .. and I am finally getting my own bike after soooooooooo many years of my parents saying no... we were at dinner and parents were bickering about something and i quietly said , " So I am getting a bike" then ordered my dinner.... they both said I was to old for them to tell me what to do so... as long as i could handle it and do everything myself then i could get it.. and I am picking up my new bike tomorrow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fuck yea!!! My mom is excited for me but I know my dad wont talk to me for a few weeks.. but he'll get use to it... not like he is going to kick his only daughter out

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I was living with my parents when I bought my bike. THEY FLIPPED THE FUCK OUT!! After about a year, things went back to somewhat normal. Looking back, I would not have done thigns differently. Just go out and buy it. Park it in the garage at your parents house and watch the shit hit the fan. Makes for great stories years down the road.

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have them take the msfcourse w/ you, when i took it there were a couple parents there, 1 taking it with his daughter and 1 taking it vecause her sons ride. not all parents would go for it but its worth a shot, i didnt really have this problem at all, my dad bought my bike before i even had my license, he actually had to push me to get it, lol

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