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Parking in Chicago???

hey guys, i just heard something that illinois is about to pass a law about how we have to park our motorcycles in the city or something like that. can someone give me some 411 on this? i usually ride to work and this doesn't sound like it is going to benefit me at all.

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I park multiple times in a northside area that is heavily enforced by meter maids and parking enforcement, and I have been parking my bike perpendicular to the curve for the past 2 years there between the bumper of 2 cars without any tickets or problems.

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that's exactly what i do downtown and i haven't had problems either, but what i heard, we have to start parking parallel to the curb now or something to that nature. i believe they're doing this b/c i guess some motorcycles stick out too much into the street and are causing problems. i heard it was on the news this morning.

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I park multiple times in a northside area that is heavily enforced by meter maids and parking enforcement, and I have been parking my bike perpendicular to the curve for the past 2 years there between the bumper of 2 cars without any tickets or problems.
Sorry to hi-jack but... Do you mean you park the bike between cars standing on meters?

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Sorry to hi-jack but... Do you mean you park the bike between cars standing on meters?
Let me clarify. I just meant that the area I park has meter parking spaces and free parking spaces. When I am in my car, there is about a 3% chance I will get a free parking space within 3 blocks from my job, I can find a metered space within a block. With the bike, I am not parking in the meter areas, but the free parking space areas. There, I park between two cars .

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Let me clarify. I just meant that the area I park has meter parking spaces and free parking spaces. When I am in my car, there is about a 3% chance I will get a free parking space within 3 blocks from my job, I can find a metered space within a block. With the bike, I am not parking in the meter areas, but the free parking space areas. There, I park between two cars .
Got it, thanks. But are you not concerned about cars tipping the bike over? If there's not enough place for a car, but only for a bike, it means you can't leave much room between the bike and the cars...

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Got it, thanks. But are you not concerned about cars tipping the bike over? If there's not enough place for a car, but only for a bike, it means you can't leave much room between the bike and the cars...
Yeah, I am careful about that. I look around for a spot that has at least 2 feet of space between the vehicles to park safely. Today, I even moved a garbage dumpster to give the car to the right of the bike more space to get out Plus, I have insurance, and have a full line of sight on the bike at all times. I don't trust leaving the bike outside anywhere around Chicagoland without me watching it, especially after an attempted theft on my bike last year. So, if they tip it over, I will see it

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Yeah, I am careful about that. I look around for a spot that has at least 2 feet of space between the vehicles to park safely. Today, I even moved a garbage dumpster to give the car to the right of the bike more space to get out Plus, I have insurance, and have a full line of sight on the bike at all times. I don't trust leaving the bike outside anywhere around Chicagoland without me watching it, especially after an attempted theft on my bike last year. So, if they tip it over, I will see it
Thanks I was curious to hear about all this for a while.

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Motorcycle parking: new angle

April 10, 2007
Motorcycle and scooter riders will be required to park "perpendicular to the curb" -- or as close to 90 degrees as possible -- under an ordinance advanced Monday to ease Chicago's notorious parking crunch.

The City Council's Traffic Committee approved the Daley-sponsored ordinance over the objections of Northwest Side accountant Jeff Leigh, who's concerned that his protruding $10,000 motorcycle could get hit by cars.

"If my motorcycle is the point furthest out into traffic -- lightning strikes the highest object. A small bump to my front wheel ... is likely going to topple the bike. ... It's more likely than not going to fall on another car," Leigh said.

But Deputy Revenue Director Matt Darst said the ordinance's 90-degree rule applies only "if it's not going to stick out in traffic. Otherwise, it requires just at an angle."

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i hate parking that way. people with cars always try to get as close as possible.

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"perpendicular to the curb"??? wouldn't this make the bike definitely stick out into traffic more. i thought the law was to park more parallel to the curb if not park completely like a car. perpendicular to the curb - isn't that how all bikers park now?

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"perpendicular to the curb"??? wouldn't this make the bike definitely stick out into traffic more. i thought the law was to park more parallel to the curb if not park completely like a car. perpendicular to the curb - isn't that how all bikers park now?
It depends on the bike, for my gixxer, the front of the tire is almost flush against the left sides of the cars. Also, to avoid someone smashing your bike coming around a turn, park more towards the middle of the street, so people can see the bike easier. As I have said, I have been parking this way for years without a single problem.

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You guys will complain about anything. Perpendicular to the curb is the form remommended at the motorcycle safety classes. Wedge the rear tire into the curb and twist the handlebars to the locking position. This prevents the bike from tipping over on graded pavement (which nearly all Chicago streets are).

I think its a wonderful clarification and much overdue. Previously, you were nearly forced to park parallel with the curb so that no other vehicles (by this I especially mean other bikes) could join you in your spot. The previous bad thing about meter/spot sharing in Chicago amongst bikers is that police could issue a ticket for multiple vehicles in the same spot. So parking parallel was a defense against this (meaning, you parked there and paid the meter and then left the spot. In the meantime another rider parks next to you and then police could issue a ticket for multiple vehicles when you really had no control over the second bike sharing your paid spot).

Other motorcycle friendly cities (San Diego) follow the perpendicular rule. In fact, I'm hoping that this new law spurs dialogue which will change the multiple vehicle fine for motorcycles. I'd go even further and love it if ABATE could convince the city council to create painted perpendicular motorcycle only parking at the ends of some metered streets downtown. Again, this is something they have in California (San Diego) and is an effort to encourage alternate transportation (less vehicle footprint/fuel consumption).

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But Deputy Revenue Director Matt Darst said the ordinance's 90-degree rule applies only "if it's not going to stick out in traffic. Otherwise, it requires just at an angle."

Again, this is what's taught in the motorcycle saftey courses. A simple slight angle is all that's required. Even 45 degrees is OK for a chopper. Really this shouldn't be a problem for anyone.

Besides, we drive on the right in this country. As far as I know all motorcycle kickstands are on the left side of the bike. This means that if you park your bike parallel with the curb and stand it on the kickstand the grade of the pavement will cause your bike to stand at a tippable 90 degree angle to the street. Not very wise IMO.

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When everyone is done speculating about this and wants the real deal, JUST ASK ME. I am the person working with the city of Chicago and the department of Revenue. I gave a full report on the TV show last night and in the ABATE newsletter "that most of you don't get" and also had the City of Chicago out to our last meeting to answer any and ALL questions regarding this matter. We also have the prototype of the info leaflet that the city will be printing with the reg's and how it's going to work. If anyone wants info "THE REAL 411" I have it.

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Pat, thanks for your work. Again, I hope this new law triggers a larger reform to encourage motorcycle use and cyclists rights in Chicago.

I believe that reserved motorcycle parking could make Chicago a leader in alternative economic and environmentally friendly travel.

It would be wonderful if reserved motorcycle parking would be exempt from meter fees entirely. The new meter kiosk system of paper tickets isn't working for motorcycles (although there was just a recent motorcycle minded reform).

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i HATE driving in the city!!!!!!!! i cant imagine taking my bike. f-ing pedestrians EVERYWHERE, 6 point stop light where i have no idea which street is which and thus i guess, and im usually wrong. Killer busses, not to mention psychotic cab drivers. speed HUMPS and islands of grass and trees in the middle of some roads??? wtf

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i HATE driving in the city!!!!!!!! i cant imagine taking my bike. f-ing pedestrians EVERYWHERE, 6 point stop light where i have no idea which street is which and thus i guess, and im usually wrong. Killer busses, not to mention psychotic cab drivers. speed HUMPS and islands of grass and trees in the middle of some roads??? wtf

i am sooo not a city driver.
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