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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 04-17-2007, 08:36 PM Thread Starter
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Oye, so I haven't been able to post on this board for a while -- heck don't even know if anyone will remember me since I made all of 2 posts I think before my Lappy engulfed itself in flames. Was finally able to steal my pop's laptop to have some fun on.

Anywho, I had a Kat 600 to learn on...but due to some circumstances, I had to sell it so now it's gone before I even took her for a spin. (I'm actually still frantically trying to walk into a MSF class. Hah.)

So I've been looking at bikes, and I got a pretty sweet deal for a '93 F2 and have been looking at a '96 ZX6r (from these boards). Are both these pretty bikes alright to start on? I know they are 600's, but they're pretty old, and I've heard good things about the earlier F's.. I think..

Oh, and if anyone has or knows someone that has a good starter bike that I can nab for pretty cheap, let me know.

Mmmm it's nice to be back on the internet..
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post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old 04-17-2007, 08:40 PM
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Can't go wrong with the F series, but check the condition as it's 14 years old now. The '96 ZX-6 isn't bad either. You're on the right track. Start out small, old and cheap

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Can't go wrong with the F series, but check the condition as it's 14 years old now. The '96 ZX-6 isn't bad either. You're on the right track. Start out small, old and cheap

Yeah, you are in the right ballpark. Maybe look at FZR600 also.
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Can't go wrong with the F series, but check the condition as it's 14 years old now. The '96 ZX-6 isn't bad either. You're on the right track. Start out small, old and cheap
I was thinking about having someone look at the F2 for me, but the things up in Mi, and I really don't know anyone up there. Was just planning on maybe going up there, looking the thing over, and give it a quick test ride, and throw it onto my pop's F350. The thing is, even if there is something wrong with it, I probably wont even be able to tell.. Any key points you think I should look for other than the obvious?

Edit:

This is quoted from the email that he sent me:

"Some history for ya:
Previous owner said he was the third owner, it was his wife's bike. His
wife enjoyed riding, but the 600 was more bike than she could handle, and
she got herself in trouble one too many times. They only clocked an
additional 400 miles on it after he put a bunch of work into it (hah).
He took it to his mechanic who did: fork seals, tune up (plugs, carb, oil
change, etc), jet kit, and a K&N drop in filter. His mechanic installed the
jet kit because the D&D system (carbon fiber pipe) made the bike surge under
cruising conditions. Afterwards it ran so much better, and still does.
When I got it, I did some more maint. and such on it. I bought this bike
just over a year ago. Right when I got it, I gapped and installed new
plugs, bled both brakes and put fresh DOT4 fluid in, flushed and filled the
coolant, changed the oil to Honda semi-synthetic, and cleaned it up a bit.
He must have known that some expensive maint. was coming, and he let me take
it on. I installed the new manual CCT as it was making more noise, and
making me a bit nervous. Then, late one night the chain snapped about 45
miles from my house. So, I switched it over to a 520 chain/sprocket set (-1
front/+1 rear). Shortly afterwards I installed Michelin Pilot Powers all
around. Love these tires. I just installed a new Pilot Power on the rear
(~50 miles on it right now). I also replaced the rectifier as it went bad,
again, about 45 miles from my house. Another common issue on the CBRs, they
simply over heat and fry. So, a fresh one with an upgraded heat sink is on
the bike. Now she runs just fine, pulls hard, and starts right up, even
when it's too cold to be riding.
While it is a sharp looking bike, it's not without scratches and little
blemishes on it. During a spring track day, I had a low speed low side at
T3 of Grattan. I applied too much throttle at too much of a lean angle and
I lost the rear. Most of the bike fell on my knee, so the damage was purely
cosmetic. You can see the rashed up tail fairing in the pics I sent you. I
eBayd a new upper, lower fairing, access panel, so those are new and without
damage. There was no mechanical issues after this. I picked it up and rode
again the next session. Since then I've logged 3K+ miles and another track
school on it with no issues. Just want to be truthful about the history of
the bike.
I think that about covers everything. Let me know if you have any more
questions."

I mean, he sounds legit..then again it's the internet...bleh. Currently $2500 for the thing, and sounds like a good deal to me -- anyone else think otherwise?


Edit: Bleh another question if you guys don't mind. I really want to be able to get my license around the time that I turn 18 (because you know, we teens don't really have the patience to wait for that kidna stuff), and that definitely isn't going to happen without me taking the MSF first. Thing is, all the ones up till then are filled (naturally) and trying to get in as a walk-in doesn't seem to be working out too well. Would you guys say it's worth say, going to one of those places and paying about 300 buckeroos for the class? I mean, it's only about a week to two week's pay on a Buffalo Wild Wing's host/cashier/runner's pay.

Ah I feel so young..

Yay. Time for some Xsport.

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Best starter bike is an EX250. Of course, you'll out grow it fast, but that is the idea. JMHO. You can get a newer one for about the same or less than the bikes that you mentioned. 14-16 year old bikes can be a maintenance nightmare.

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I'm not reading all that stuff you posted (sorry)

In short, you can find dozens of decent starter bikes within 50 miles of you.

If you can't afford a $300 course though, you probably shouldn't be riding. Insurance is expensive and a decent running starter bike will be around $2000. Insurance companies vary a lot on coverage, but as a teenager you'll get screwed by them.

Try to get into the course as a walk on. Look for when the weather gets a bit iffy..they ride no matter what. The casual folks not REALLY wanting it will bail before riding in the rain.

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I'm not reading all that stuff you posted (sorry)

In short, you can find dozens of decent starter bikes within 50 miles of you.

If you can't afford a $300 course though, you probably shouldn't be riding. Insurance is expensive and a decent running starter bike will be around $2000. Insurance companies vary a lot on coverage, but as a teenager you'll get screwed by them.

Try to get into the course as a walk on. Look for when the weather gets a bit iffy..they ride no matter what. The casual folks not REALLY wanting it will bail before riding in the rain.

No no, I can for su re afford the course, just wanna know if it's worth it or not
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No no, I can for su re afford the course, just wanna know if it's worth it or not
If you're having a bad luck getting a walk-in with MSF, it's definitely worth it.

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just get something cheap until you get the hang of it. safe ride!
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Just had my second (first of riding) day of the MSF, and oh man, this crap is fricking fun

Even might have found my new job working as a cone boy
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