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Shock collar for dogs

Would you ever use one on an animal? Discuss...

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your question is way too vague to answer

what does trained mean? You mean collar conditioned?

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Only in special circumstances and/or when other methods do not work. Good example is training a dog NOT to pick up food from the ground without explicit permission.

Also I would imagine this may be used for other special training - for dogs used by police/military/emergency workers.

Anyway, it has to be on a case by case basis. Same amount of shock may cause severe damage to one dog's psyche and it won't even cause the other one to scratch it. I say it's like strong prescription medicine - better do without it and has to be administered by a professional, but there're cases when there's no other choice.

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Eh personally I use traditional training methods and they've always worked fine. Shock collar seems a bit mean to me

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It works on my wife. I use it to keep her in line when she's been drinking.
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again, whats the dog being trained for?

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it likes to bolt out of the house and send us on a wild goose chase hours on end. it free roams the house and the backyard 90% of the time when we are home. It knows its boundaries inside the house and backyard. ive tried teaching it about the running away with positive and negative reinforcement but nothing works.

If he sees the front door open he bolts and doesn't come back. yesterday after corralling it, it bit me.
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I use one on Rusty, But like Mike Says, you need to be more specific. Use one with my Invisible fence, buit the shock is only a last minute correction for disobeying. He's actually been shocked maybe 4 times in his life. this trick is in the training, Rusty is trained by the beeps the collar makes 3 seconds before it shocks. If he hears the beeps he knows to back off the line as I spent weeks training him to do this before he ever felt his first shock. Now my neighbor on the other hand bought a cheap system put it on the dog and just threw the dog out there and expected it to stay int he yard, instead he comes in my yard getting electrocuted the whole time, this really pisses me off. You have to be responsible enough to use this tool properly




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it likes to bolt out of the house and send us on a wild goose chase hours on end. it free roams the house and the backyard 90% of the time when we are home. It knows its boundaries inside the house and backyard. ive tried teaching it about the running away with positive and negative reinforcement but nothing works.

If he sees the front door open he bolts and doesn't come back. yesterday after corralling it, it bit me.
Here ya go, This is who did my fence, and taught me how to train my dog the proper way. any fence brand can shock a dog, they teach you to keep him from getting shocked and keep him safe.

also tell them Tony Filippelli recommended you so I get a free collar battery

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I've been advocating using them on annoying children for years..., but think it is too cruel for dogs.

OK on a more serious note.. yes, but it needs to be associated with specific behavioral changes.

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it likes to bolt out of the house and send us on a wild goose chase hours on end. it free roams the house and the backyard 90% of the time when we are home. It knows its boundaries inside the house and backyard. ive tried teaching it about the running away with positive and negative reinforcement but nothing works.

If he sees the front door open he bolts and doesn't come back. yesterday after corralling it, it bit me.
sounds like you need to spend more time outdoors with it on walks and runs. I grew up with dogs that loved to go running with me when I went jogging. After a while when they knew how far they could stray from me I didn't even need to use a leash on them. I could tell them (Black Lab and a German Shepard) to chase down an occasional rabbit but they would come running right back if I called them.
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Last resort. Phoenix just gave us a look like "Is that all you have" when he got shocked with the full charge.
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I used a bark collar on my Boston for one day. That is all it took, no more bark. Sold it on ebay a few days later.
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I have used one Abbie may have been shocked 4 times. Most have a beep as a warning that does its job.

Like has been said use it for something specific not general purposes.

We mainly use it to keep her in control in the car and all we have to do is show her that we have it not even put it on.

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Only on the lowest setting and only for "don't bark when I'm not here" because I live in a condo. Used it for about a month then he got a hold of it (when it wasn't on him) and chewed up the little snap thing.

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I use one on Grasshopper. It keeps him from thinking independently without my approval. He hasn't been shocked much.

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I trcked my dob by putting it on his and letting him get comfy with it. When I used it I did it only for one session. The audible followed by a shock. An hour later the shock wasn't necessary, the audible scared the shit outta him.

Now, I keep the collar in my pocket and just press the audible and he'll stop shitting and come to me.

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it likes to bolt out of the house and send us on a wild goose chase hours on end. it free roams the house and the backyard 90% of the time when we are home. It knows its boundaries inside the house and backyard. ive tried teaching it about the running away with positive and negative reinforcement but nothing works.

If he sees the front door open he bolts and doesn't come back. yesterday after corralling it, it bit me.
I would never have the need with my dogs. They have 4 doors to get through before they could escape. But with your situation, it is for the dog's own safety. Better for him to get a shock than get hit by a car. Everyone in the household will need to be trained how to train him properly with this device so do your homework.

In the meantime, maybe put a note on your front door telling people to go around back and don't open that front door.

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A shock collar would make for a very kinky cock ring. Now that's hot.
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I used the collar when I was training my dog...he would get the warning tone...then a shock....he got the shock exactly once...and he immediately got the idea....tone then shock. He doesn't wear the collar anymore...if he steps out of line....I give him a command and point the TV remote at him...he immediately does what I command.

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