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Damnit, Laid off..

Well, the powers that be (above anybody I knew) decided to lay people off from the one company that's actually making money in the corporation. Me, another engineer, and the engineering IT guy all got the ax. Sucks, but I've got a decent severance package that should hold me out for about three months (on top of unemployment).

I figured another layoff was coming around and knew my head was on the chopping block. Next time the electronics on the main product go apeshit (which will probably be by the end of the week), they'll be screwed because they canned both engineers that worked on it.

Worst of it all, I rode in yesterday, so I have to go back and pick all my stuff up! A couple folks from work stopped by (along with the little woman ) to check up on me. It took THEM by surprise.

I knew as soon as I got called into the room..



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post #2 of 39 (permalink) Old 03-25-2003, 02:59 PM
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Damn that sucks. I'm about to get fired from my job too. Good thing I'm lining shit up in columbus...
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Sorry to hear that happen to you. That really sucks.

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That sucks dude. I'm on the chopping block at my place too.
hope you bounce back.

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Sorry to hear Chris. Will you have medical coverage for awhile?
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Ya know someone needs to start a service where they hack the shit out of companies servers who lay people off. Just friggin destroy them.




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That just sucks know the feeling though. I don't know which is worse knowing you are laid off, or sitting around waiting for it to happen?
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sorry to hear that chris. with the economy the way it is we might all be joining you soon

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Ya know what, report them to that stolen software hotline. you know someone in there has some unlicensed shit.


One of these days comapnies have to learn to stop laying people off just beaceuse their stock price is 50 cents to low. Its getting rediculous.




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Dude, that sux.

On the bright side........you can spend more time with us on Friday at ChUBBy Bare (see we need spell cheker!!!!!)

HMMMMMMMM>>>>now if we can only get Champ fired too, so he could not eat and run

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If you are in IT maybe I can help ypu out with a referal, what did u do at your previos job? I can look at you postings and see if there is anything close. I work in the Deerfield/Northbrook area so its not really to far from ya
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In all seriousness.....I hope you find a new one that pays 3 times as much soon!!!!

I wish you the best of luck

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Ow dude, that sucks! But hey.. at least you don't have to get up early Friday now, so we can go out on Thursday! I'll buy you some drinks.

Hopefully you'll find something soon and the weather'll brighten up so you can take advantage of some more free time to ride more.
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Thanks for the concern.

I've got medical coverage through May or June. They are giving me the option for 'incentive pay' if I don't sue them (which I can't, don't have a case.) I get a couple extra weeks pay and additional medical coverage through then.

I worked in mechanical engineering, but the kicker is that I never got a chance to learn CAD (solidworks, ProE,etc). Which pretty much is required in the field I'm finding. Probably have to look at laboratories and whatnot.

I'm hoping to land a job quick, then double dip for a couple months so I can pay off the bike/car and have some left over for Pokey to get a trip to Druckers That's 'best case' though.

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Sorry to hear Chris. Your prob right about the CAD thing. If ya need help on that I could help ya out. AutoCAD and Mechanical Desktop.

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Is that how it works, one virgo has to be laid off for another virgo to get employed to balance out the universe

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post #21 of 39 (permalink) Old 03-25-2003, 05:34 PM Thread Starter
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Sorry to hear Chris. Your prob right about the CAD thing. If ya need help on that I could help ya out. AutoCAD and Mechanical Desktop.
Pete,

In most cases, it's either ProE or Solidworks (made by some guys who left ProE to make something similiar). Solidworks isn't too difficult to figure out if you have any 3D modeling experience. The advantage of both these is that you can assemble a machine with different entities, then make them fit. When you make the real thing, you are damn close already. PRetty sweet, actually.

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post #22 of 39 (permalink) Old 03-25-2003, 05:40 PM
 
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Chris, just BS about the CAD software. Say you have experience with all of them, then when you go in for the interview, ask what they are using and say that at you last job you worked primarily with a competitors product and that your rusty on the stuff they are using. They will say, no problem, we would send you to trianing regardless! All the software packages are easy to learn, and its not going to be a make or break point. DON'T COUT YOURSLEF OUT!
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Chris, just BS about the CAD software. Say you have experience with all of them, then when you go in for the interview, ask what they are using and say that at you last job you worked primarily with a competitors product and that your rusty on the stuff they are using. They will say, no problem, we would send you to trianing regardless! All the software packages are easy to learn, and its not going to be a make or break point. DON'T COUT YOURSLEF OUT!
Maybe a few years ago that was the case, that is not what would happen right now. There is no budgets for training and no flexibility with employers. There is SO MANY people unemployed, that the companies can pick and choose their employee right down to the last detail.

What you need to do right now to get a job, is have experience in every software, be better than everyone else, that is the only way to get into an interview, I'm not even talking about getting the job.

My advice to Chris is:
1) get on unemployment
2) start looking for jobs
3) get into a class or two at a local college and get good at what you know they will expect you to be preficient in.

That is the only way to do it.
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Pro-E and Solid Works are 2 pretty good Solid Modeling packages. All be it Pro-E should be at $25k per station. We had them quoting us but decided to go with Mechanical Desktop. Its made by AutoDesk same as AutoCAD. So the familiarity was there. It too is a full 3D Solid Modeling package but much less in cost. Yes it is pretty slick to design in 3D and have your parts *cough* fit the first time. I doubt purchasing software is in the budget esp due to its high costs, but Ana is prob right to try to get some courses in the software if possible. I think you'll find more Solid works and or Mechanical Desktop at your med to small companies. Pro-E I feel will be limited to the larger companies just due to cost.

As far as interviews, a general familiarity can get you in. Your coming in as an engineer not a Draftsman or Designer. So you may or may not be the geek drawing on the comp all day, but directing geeks to draw all day.

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3) get into a class or two at a local college and get good at what you know they will expect you to be preficient in.

That is the only way to do it.
My next door neighbor was laid off from the IT department at McDonalds corporate HQ late last year. He said something about the city of Chicago having retraining grants and I think he mentioned he applied for one to go to IIT to get his MCSE certification. Now I know you live up north but maybe there is something similar on the state level - or through your reserves?

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Chris, cheer up man things will work out for in the days to come. My wife got laid off in April of 2002, I got laid off in July of 2002, I had my second child in August of 2002. You know what, life is good, actually, my life at this time is the best it has ever been.

Due to my faith in God I have been able to make it. Each month my bills are always paid, my family has health care and I still have my bikes. It can get scary when your saving is gone and there's not a regular pay check coming in. By the way did I mention that my wifes unemployment has ended. Each month God has provided for me and my family.

Using the system to your advantage. Yes, use the system (state, federal, and private) or get used by the system. I am a system developer, my wife is a dba, and you think we could find a job. If you are in the IT field employers want certified employees now. Only because they know they can pick and choose who get the job. Any way, if you don't find work in a few months get in touch with me and I can help you understand how to use the system to your advantage.

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Damn Chris, that suxxors in a hard way!

About the drafting packages. Yes, if you know the pcinciple theories involved with engineering and desgining, go to CLC and get a fundamentals class. It will only reinforce what you know, and give you more skill assets to put on your resume.

AutoCAD and Mechanical Desktop are in fact your more wide spread applications. Simpley because of cost factor. As of last August, I believe they still held onto 70% of the market share, withe ProE, Microstation and Unigraphics picking up the majority of the leftovers.

ProE is a much more powerful program, but it also comes at a hefty cost increase, and when most businesses can get 3-4 licenses of AutoCAD vs 1 ProE, that's usually what they end up with.

Another thing to note on applications. Once you now how to function in one, you can carry that over to ANY OTHER application. A line is a line, a circle is a circle! So how you bring up the command to get to them differs, but all the principles are the same.

I still have contacts in this feild. PM me some infor or email me a copy of your resume and I can see if I can help you out! Email: [email protected]

Best of luck....let me know if I an help!
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Thanks for everything folks.

Anna's right. Companies now won't spend the $3K to send a person to a couple weeks of technical training nowadays, especially right off the bat.

I've sent a couple resumes to a company near me and to a headhunter for some other job. Need to inquire some more about a couple others I've read. Rob, PM me your contacts for decent headhunters. I'm not really interested in contract work; that's like getting laid off every 3 months. Not worth it!

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