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pfffft here we go...My Ford is going to the shop again

I can't believe how much little crap goes wrong with the last two brand new Fords I've owned. It's funny Wayne had the display problems on his radio cause yesterday when I got to the train station and started up my truck to go home there was no display on the radio. I don't think it's a connection cause the button lights and cd slot lights are on. Just black where the time disc station volume etc. should be.

Worst part I'm now in the extended milage period of my warranty so I gotta spend $50 just for them to look at it. I know some of you don't agree, but FORD SUCKS!!!!!! Although it's better than paying full price.


Hmmmmmmmmmmm.......maybe I should just put a new deck in it.

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I totally agree with you. Ford in Europe is good though.
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I totally agree with you. Ford in Europe is good though.
Why would they be any better in Europe????

I feel like an idiot buying this one after my F-150 had so many problems. I guess I figured the Escape had so much Mazda influence I'd give it a shot. It doesn't help that their customer service is so bad either

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Why would they be any better in Europe????
European Ford's quality policy is different from that of NA. eg Ford Focus in Europe is known for its reliability but it has had nothing but problems over here.
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European Ford's quality policy is different from that of NA. eg Ford Focus in Europe is known for its reliability but it has had nothing but problems over here.
No kidding...I didn't know that. I'm glad I was in the shop with my truck before I bought my Civic. I saw three focus's in there all with brake rotors snapped in half and bent rims. Seems they have a little problem with that.

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Hmm FORD

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OK that was only funny when it went to the shop the first few times.

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And here I thought you got nothing to say.

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And here I thought you got nothing to say.
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I've had very few problems with my Escort since I bought it. Sears was supposed to fix something on it a while ago and did a crappy job, so my dad fixed it and poof-no problems. Other than new front brakes and a new muffler, I don't have any problems with my car.

I had a Taurus before and I loved that car....Worked perfect til it was time to get a new car....it was nearly 12 yrs old. Guess Fords only work for some people.

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Re: pfffft here we go...My Ford is going to the shop again

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when I got to the train station and started up my truck to go home there was no display on the radio. I don't think it's a connection cause the button lights and cd slot lights are on. Just black where the time disc station volume etc. should be.
It sometimes happens on my '93 Probe as well. It doesn't affect anything else, though, so I am not worried about it. It will light up once you trn on the power to the radio.CD/tape.

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FORD....F150...rule.....period I had a 94, never spent a dime on the thing, friend has a dodge ram, it's putting him in the poor house, and a chevy before that, that was slighty better.


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Don't get me started. I sold my '98 F-150 in '01. It only had 16000 miles on it, and that's not because I don't drive it's because I always had a loaner when they were fixing all the problems. I was one day away from the lemon law in the first year. They replaced the rear window three times, a starter, a heater core, had a leak in the A/C, a lug nut recall, a linkage problem with 4x4 and a broken control arm at 10k miles. For starters.

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It sometimes happens on my '93 Probe as well. It doesn't affect anything else, though, so I am not worried about it. It will light up once you trn on the power to the radio.CD/tape.

<------not even entertaining that

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FORD....F150...rule.....period I had a 94, never spent a dime on the thing, friend has a dodge ram, it's putting him in the poor house, and a chevy before that, that was slighty better.
My dad totally agrees. He had an old F150....and just a bought a newer F150. The old one was getting up there mile-wise and the truck cover in the back broke (it was both our bike's faults) so he got a new one for his b-day. He loves it and so do I.

My friends b/f just bought a Ford Ranger last year. Totally new. Very nice, he loves it.
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My dad totally agrees. He had an old F150....and just a bought a newer F150. The old one was getting up there mile-wise and the truck cover in the back broke (it was both our bike's faults) so he got a new one for his b-day. He loves it and so do I.

My friends b/f just bought a Ford Ranger last year. Totally new. Very nice, he loves it.
Well I'm glad somebody had good luck with them, cause I obviously didn't.

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Well I'm glad somebody had good luck with them, cause I obviously didn't.
So it would appear. *shrug*
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Why would they be any better in Europe????

No UAW ...oops, did I say that out loud.

No really... IMO, One of Fords biggest problems is not enginneering, but the penny pinchers in sourcing/purchasing. In Europe there are different vendors for most components.

A car often is a sum of it's parts. Put a lot of cheap parts in it that have sloppy tolerances and you get a squeaky ratly car. Tighten the tolerances, and combine several parts and you get a much tighter machine.

Every company cuts corners. The margins per unit in the auto industry like most manufactured goods are pitiful. in the end everyone's margin is about the same, so you get what you pay for. If the Ford Taurus costs less than a Honda Accord but is roughly the same size and has the same features.... guess what... someone cut some extra corners. or worse... typically the American cars cost less and have more features. Hmmmm wonder how they did that. Plastic water pump impellers taht fail after 80k miles.... plastic moutning brakets instead of metal.... one less coat of paint... a cheaper primer of resin for bumpers.... cheaper shocks with wider tolerances that last only 100k miles and give a rough ride.

Take a close look at a Honda, Toyota, Nissan and how the body panels fit together, how the interior trim is overlayed, etc, and compare it to the same Ford or Chrysler. Look at platic trim parts, mounting brackets, nameplates. Look at materils of contruction and how they fit together. There's a big difference.

Anyway.... sorry to hear about the problem Crazy... but at least it's only the radio.
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Mazda influence I'd give it a shot. It doesn't help that their customer service is so bad either
Mazda has never been even remotely close to Toyota, Honda or Nissan as far as quality goes. They have too much revolution in their designs and not enough evolution. It's not just being Japanesse that makes these comanies build their cars the way they do, its the corporate atmosphere.

Case in point. Had a professor in college. Bought a '90 or '91 Lexus. It was the first model year... brand new design, very little carry over parts from other Toyotas. After 10 years and over 200k miles, never had a problem, and it still rides and shifts like a new car, no squeaks or rattles...only the leather seats are mostly worn out. You won't see a Lincoln Towncar pull that off and they've been making those or something similar or over 20 more years. The tranny would crap out at least once and they would be plenty of squeaks and rattles.
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Why is it my little book worm ? That Honda, toyota and Nissan. rust from the inside out unlike American cars,trucks?

Atleast you can fix the rust on an American car and keep it going and going and going and going....
By the time ya see rust on a import, there is so much cancer throughout the body and frame that they are considered unsafe.

Trust me I had a 86 accord that the frame rusted through
My mechanic refused to put it on the Jack for his own safety.


That wouldnt be because they cut a corner or two would it?

My Ford is still running good with 70K on it and it hasnt even had a tune up yet

This is gonna hurt!
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Mike you crack me up................ Such a typical engineer!


Why is it my little book worm ? That Honda, toyota and Nissan. rust from the inside out unlike American cars,trucks?

Atleast you can fix the rust on an American car and keep it going and going and going and going....
By the time ya see rust on a import, there is so much cancer throughout the body and frame that they are considered unsafe.

Trust me I had a 86 accord that the frame rusted through
My mechanic refused to put it on the Jack for his own safety.

I'll have to agree with you there, I've had plenty of 80's Japanese cars come into the shop that I was scared to put on the 2-post lift, gotta put them on the drive-on .

Brian, the radio display dying is really common on Fords, I've seen at least 6 or 7 of them.

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No UAW ...oops, did I say that out loud.

No really... IMO, One of Fords biggest problems is not enginneering, but the penny pinchers in sourcing/purchasing. In Europe there are different vendors for most components.

Mike I gotta disagree with you there. I work on Fords almost every day and they never stop surprising me with the backwards way they do things sometimes and I can't see it saving them any money. The newer Ford fullsize trucks have the engine set way back under the cowl and the fan shroud is a foot long, I can't see how that would save any money, or figure out why they did this for that matter and it makes it that much more of a pain in my ass to work on. That's just one example, I can list more if you want. Many of the things that they do backwards can only end up costing them money in the end when they have to pay warranty claims and the job takes twice as long as it would have had they just designed it the right way to begin with.

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My Ford is still running good with 70K on it and it hasnt even had a tune up yet [/B]
99 dakota 4x4 40k miles, changed the oil once,air filter too, other then that it hasnt asked for anything other then gas!

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I haven't had much luck with Ford's either. I had a Mustang that was a pile of junk and an Explorer that also is a pile of junk. I can go further into detail on both, but I don't feel like typing for the next hour
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40K miles and only 1 oil change??????
damn, that can't be good.
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My 99 Cougar (Ford POS) needed a new engine at 49k miles. It has had many other problems as well... all together it has had approx $6000 in new parts and labor in the last year. I now have just over 60,000 miles on it, and I'm constantly paranoid that the tire will fall off while driving(again...yes, I said again), or something worse. It does have a 100,000 mile powertrain warranty that came with the new engine. Good until 149,000 miles.

Any buyers??

I'll let it go for what I owe at this point.
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