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anybody here pre-med?

Ive realized doing mortgages is nice but i def want a career that I can rely on and enjoy doing. The thoughts of going to school for psychology are always there and im also looking into pre-med and i wanna get some peoples takes on it?

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Ive realized doing mortgages is nice but i def want a career that I can rely on and enjoy doing. The thoughts of going to school for psychology are always there and im also looking into pre-med and i wanna get some peoples takes on it?
are u young enough to pull off the schooling required?
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, na just looking to jump into a normal career. Yea im young enough, im only 26 mang

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My little brother is at the tail end of med school. Be prepared to do nothing but study for the next 6 years, just to become a doctor and then there's even more work keeping current. Then there are the loans, he's racked up at least $75k in loans and that is on the cheap.

He's finishing up his rotations and will be starting his residency in the next few months. 26 is starting very late IMO as he is the same age and still has a couple years to go.

Good luck...if it were easy everyone would be doing it.
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, na just looking to jump into a normal career. Yea im young enough, im only 26 mang
Anything medical related is not a normal career, just the schooling will consume every second of your life. That's if you actually get accepted into a school, and then if you can actually finish school without losing your mind.

My girlfriend is getting ready to apply to med school, she has a degree in biology from U of C, two years of prerequisites (sp?) with perfect grades, two years experience as a EMT/paramedic and she is still sweating getting into any school, not just the school she chooses.

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I know its not gonna be easy and i figured its gonna be costly, thats why I'll do mortgages on the side to help pay for it so i dont have to take out to many loans. I know 26 is late but its something i def wanna do. Just gotta research schools now so hopefully by next sept im enrolled somewhere.

Thats the thing that scares me is getting into a school isnt gonna be easy.

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26 is defintely not too late. In fact in the twisted world of medical school admission commitees your actually a more elligible canidate then someone straight out of undergrad who has a 4.0 gpa in a biochem degree. For some reason they figure since you've been out in the "real world" for a few yrs it's more likely that you'll be a more well rounded physician.

complete your premed requirements
1 yr reg chem
1 yr organic chem
1 yr bio
1 yr physics
1 yr of calc
1 yr english

and then take your MCATs, try to score above 30. (Although I hear they've changed the MCAT since I took it, so the scale might be different now).

then go apply everywhere you can afford to apply.

While it's true med school takes up most of your time, if you structure your schedule well your still able to schedule leisure time in. Which is true for any proffessional field.

Med school has nothing to do with how smart you are. You just have to be able to adapt to everything they throw at you. B/c that's is exactly what you have to do when you do become an MD.

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My lil bro was at UofI Champ/Urb biology/premed major with near perfect grades excellent MCAT scores and still had to go a Caribbean school. The competion is fierce.
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There is a big difference between "not easy" and "nearly impossible". Med school falls closer to "nearly impossible". No offense, but I think you are extremely underestimating what it takes. You will be COMPLETELY consumed by school, no day job, no free time.

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Getting into a med school isn't really the hard part. You can keep working while taking all the pre-requisite classes and studying for MCAT. Don't forget to schedule time for volunteering though. You pretty much are required to do clinical volunteering, anything at a hospital or clinic, or become an EMT.

I've heard that keeping a side job while actually in med school though is damn near impossible, so be prepared for the possibility of that. And you will pretty much have to study your ass off. Once you get in, you'll be swamped with material, and then have to study your ass off for board exams. Then rinse and repeat the whole test taking and application process all over again for residency programs. 26 is definitely not too late to start though, especially if you don't have a family.

Also consider the ever decreasing doctors salary for just about everyone except guys who don't take insurance (plastic surgeons for instance).

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There is a big difference between "not easy" and "nearly impossible". Med school falls closer to "nearly impossible". No offense, but I think you are extremely underestimating what it takes. You will be COMPLETELY consumed by school, no day job, no free time.
actually I just finished med school this year. I have one surgical sub specialty elective to finish up here in champaign and then I'll be moving back to Md. I'll be doing research for a year and then starting residency next year. I'm pretty sure I know what I'm talking about.

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Pharm school!
By 2020 there will be a shortage of 180k pharmacists nationwide, that's including all the new pharm schools opening up. That will keep salaries climbing very nicely. Some areas are offering $30k+ bonus to work there, and that # will keep increasing as the shortage continues.

You can work anywhere in the country and get paid very nicely with great benefits. you won't have to commute either which IMO is a huge plus. Walgreens is expanding to Hawaii btw...

No residency required!! You graduate, get licensed, and can start working your 40 hours and get paid a salary that currently is on par with some physicians. you don't have to pay for malpractice either, the company will usually take care of that.

You can work community, hospital, clinical, industry, government, etc, etc and there are tons of different types of positions within each of those. something for everyone. check it out!
the burn out rate on pharms is pretty high. they pretty much cap out salary wise after their first 5 years.
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+1 on PharmD ... and if your into direct patient care you can do clinical pharm.

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Pretty sure all Med Schools require a Bachelors Degree... I've heard that people with a bachelors in some form of music are generally the #1 applicants into med schools.

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, lets hope not, id imagine the 4 years at premed would qualify wouldnt it?

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Well i figured out what im gonna do (thanks to doc750 for the help) Im gonna check into schools for a major in business and minor in psych (2 other fields that would work out for me) and during that time do my pre-med classes so at least i get the required classes i need for med school. Plus if i go full time year round I can finish alot sooner than 4 years for the BA. And by then my life will be in a diff situation so i can move to wherever for medical school.

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You're definately never too old to go back... I've had a few friends go back from there borign 9-5 cubical jobs.

You just have to want it...... really bad. Also not for the $$$ because there are obviously easier ways to make that amount of money (assuming you are smart enough to be a doctor anyways).

I was premed for 3 semesters at UIC and decided I would never make it through medschool and took a 180 and switched to computer science. I sort of regret it now... I really would have loved medicine. A good alternative that many are doing now is a Physician's Assistant... should look into it.

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dude become a pharmacist instead, 4 years of pharm school and you will be out making 100k+. You don't even need a degree to go to pharm school.
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You're definately never too old to go back... I've had a few friends go back from there borign 9-5 cubical jobs.

You just have to want it...... really bad. Also not for the $$$ because there are obviously easier ways to make that amount of money (assuming you are smart enough to be a doctor anyways).

I was premed for 3 semesters at UIC and decided I would never make it through medschool and took a 180 and switched to computer science. I sort of regret it now... I really would have loved medicine. A good alternative that many are doing now is a Physician's Assistant... should look into it.
SIU has a good program, I always thought about transfering there. . I'm about to finish up my undergrad next week.
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And by then my life will be in a diff situation so i can move to wherever for medical school.
$75K in debt, w/o a job and another 6 years of Med school to go

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na ok well did some research and i found out UIC is only 6k per year for my BA. Im gonna call and check on the time it'll take if i go all year round to get it done. Loyola was a little more for the same thing especially since its undergrad, its all the same. The only thing is a guy here mentioned (also premed) that if i took a science or bio as a major it would help a medical schools decision to accept me if my GPA wasnt top notch.

I figured Ill sell one of my cars and the gsxr to pay for it for undergrad and when it comes to medical school since id most likely move away for it just sell the house and use the equity from it to pay for school instead of student loans. That or have my dad manage it and rent it out.

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