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Need To Use Impact Wrench...

Does anyone have an air powered impact wrench, (or maybe even a good electric impact wrench) I can use? I won't even take it anywhere. Just need to ride the bike over to you and break my sprocket nut loose.

It looks like it's never been off and they use red loctite on it from the factory. I've been at it all morning with a 6ft breaker bar with no luck.

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If you don't mind going to wheeling I have an impact wrench that will take it off in no time. I will be there from about 6pm-8pm today. All impact wrenches are not equal.
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I'm actually 10 minutes from Wheeling now.

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I'm actually 10 minutes from Wheeling now.

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Just replied. I know that bolt can be a bitch. Thats why we got the nice wrench.
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Anyone else got any ideas? I spent 3 hours with a 6ft breaker and I used two different peoples air impact guns today. No go on any of it. It does not have the bent over washer behind it. Just a flat washer. It does look like there are tangs on the front of the nut and it looks like they dig into the threads. I've never seen a locknut like this. At least I think it's a lock nut. I don't want to put a torch on it and melt the rubber seals on the output shaft either.

Am I stuck cutting this bitch out with carbide drill bits and a chisel????

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Stupid thought but we went through the same thing when a deuce and and a half got a flat.

The bolts were reverse threaded.

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I can see a few threads at the end of the nut. It sure looks to be standard right hand thread. But no, I'm not absoultley 100% sure.

I did the breaker bar and the impact guns in both directions. Right hand and left hand. Nothing doing either way

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Maybe this is Gods way of telling you not to replace your sprocket.
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what kind of an impact?
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Put the socket on there with a breaker bar, brace it in the direction it will go. Start the bike, put it in gear, rev the fuck out of it and release your left hand from the clutch. If the nut doesn't com off, your fucked.

You are talking about the contershaft procket right?

If so, my method, even though it sounds crazy, works.

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if you want me to try and help you send me your # and ill call you tomorrow if you wanna drive out to plainfield "takes me 40 minute to get to me from where your at."

but if you want me to help you, bring the new sprocket and the new washer "OEM one that you push the tab over to safety lock the sprocket bolt" that way we can just install the new one.



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Put the socket on there with a breaker bar, brace it in the direction it will go. Start the bike, put it in gear, rev the fuck out of it and release your left hand from the clutch. If the nut doesn't com off, your fucked.

You are talking about the contershaft procket right?

If so, my method, even though it sounds crazy, works.
sure, but A LOT can go bad once the nut spins off, the the wrench get jammed or sprocket in that area, and the possibility can be an injury or damaged external parts.

i am pretty sure i can get it off for him, ive dealt with dumb ass shit like this before with used bikes ive bought off red neck wrenchers.



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Not sure where to get one around here, but get a torque multiplier or a "slap" wrench?
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what kind of an impact?
I don't know what model but it's a nice snap on. I have never seen it not remove something before.
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Am I stuck cutting this bitch out with carbide drill bits and a chisel????
did you try spraying PB blaster or similr liquid wrench fluid ? may help if you didn't

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Damn I think I cursed you when I told you it was a one hour job. It was a one hour job on a Honda.

Get a small blow torch and heat up the nut/bolt. It will come right off.

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Lol No way am I using the motor to get the nut off. Oddy I'll PM you tomorrow and hook up with you when you're free.
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Did you try to put a 2 X 4 wrapped in a towel through the wheel and on the swingarm. This is what I had to do to get the front sprocket off the gixxer the first time. The 2 X 4 locked the rear wheel, then I used my 2 ft breaker bar to quickly pop the sprocket off. They make those really tight from the factory.

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I don't know what model but it's a nice snap on. I have never seen it not remove something before.
Can I try it to get my wife off the couch?
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I've not done my yet, but in the SV forum they recommend soaking in PB and using the 2X4 in the rear wheel. But I figure Eric's been down that road already.

Tell us what the trick was once Ody helps you out.

While I don't need a new sproket and chain yet, I'm considering a 520 conversion when I replace my tires. So I'm curious how painful this is going to be fo rme.

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yeah definitly wanna hear how this gets done, but I would use a impact and heat it up with a blow torch, remember it doesn't matter what brand of impact you are using gotta be the air pressure behind it and what it is regulated to.
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I soaked it in PB Blaster, (much better than Liquid Wrench BTW), all day yesterday. I put a MAP gas torch on it for a few minutes too. I really don't want heat it up too much. I don't want to melt any rubber seals on the trans output shaft and then have the bike leak like a spaghetti strainer. And I had a pipe wrapped in towels wedged between the swingarm and the rim. It's some type of funky locknut. It should not be this difficult.

I'm cutting it off this week. I already make up my mind. I "borrowing" drill bits today from work

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Last summer when doing Gasguzzler's chain and sprockets, we used everything but the kitchen sink to remove the front sprocket....what worked was heat.....and lots of it

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is wheel on the bike ? if yes, you can try ziptieing rear brake (or have someone pushing it inistead) and then applying breaking bar. I'd be surprised if that does not work (if you can stop rear wheel from spinning). Those bolts are not uber tight (i.e. like 60lb/ft) .

Locking rear wheel with the brake is the recommended method to tighten the front sprocket for ex.
It may work on stud bolts too if there is enough clearance to fit socket over the nut.

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Read through, he's already put a pipe in the wheel to lock it down.

I'm wondering if there isn't some sort of C-clip on there somewhere that you are missing Eric.

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or a cotter key that is hidden inside that is holding just a little bit. That seems really strange and all of this so far should of broken that lock tite.

I know if comes tight from the factory and reverse threads makes sense right there because then instead of it coming loose under normal use it would put enough torque on it to keep it tight. It is an older bike and have you asked on gixxer.com too, theres a TL board there and a lot more people to talk to.
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Can you swing by my work in Justice at around 5 today? We have a large air compressor that provides enough CFM for an impact to work right. If that all fails, a little heat from the torch will get anything to break loose. Shoot me a PM if you want to stop by and I'll give you my #.

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All good! Thanks Ryan!
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